Here you go guys.

http://whois.domaintools.com/vpathome.net

detective work itt

why do people even play on this whack site!..??? go to tilt or stars..even UB is better

Tilt Stars and UB don't give you 100% rakeback

Interesting. What exactly do you have? Hand histories? Session start and end times or something? Where you datamining the site already or is this something you have done retroactively?

Also I remember you mentioned somewhere earlier that you aren't totally uninvolved in the outcome of this. What did you mean by that?

(not hinting at anything I am really just curious and have no idea who you are)

from

http://www.therxforum.com/archive/in.../t-492706.html


"Hi,

This is Kevin from The Flash Poker Network. Our corporate website is www.pitbullpoker.com (http://www.pitbullpoker.com) but we run also run a poker network www.theflashpokernetwork.com (http://www.theflashpokernetwork.com)

We have just released version 2.5 of our flash gaming client. As with all poker software we have had some minor issues along the way, but we have been live for over 18 months and we are very stable now.

We have 5dimes, betcascade, beted for sportsbooks that use our software.

Send me an email and lets chat. Our office is in San Pedro, Costa Rica. kevin@mobiuscr.com"

this isn't my personal data; it's several spreadsheets I was emailed by someone who wants to remain anonymous but was datamining this site along with others. they contain certain information on these accounts over a long period of time that is probably temporarily best kept quiet for verification purposes.

oh, and it occurs to me that Pitbull also may have no clue who I am, so for the record, my name is Serge Ravitch and you may or may not have seen me on 60 Minutes

Yeah. If I ever decide to become a criminal, I'll be grateful that my name is Joseph Smith, rather than Kevin Baranowsky.

If Serge and Nat are on the case, they are toast.

This is great that we can now verify if any HH's have been tampered with in the unlikely event Dave provides them. What I don't understand is how you can tell if they're superusers or not by just seeing when the sat in and sat out etc.

edit: ok I guess how you know may harm verification later on, but since chester and I are directly involved perhaps you might pm us some brief details

[quote=spadebidder;12064695]Domain pherx.com:
Dimensus Limited
1 Kilchurn
Consett, Blackhill DH8 8TQ GB

Administrative contact:
Technical contact:
Billing contact:
Dimensus Limited
Jonathon Franklin
****@pitbullgaming.com
1 Kilchurn
Consett, Blackhill DH8 8TQ GB
Phone: +44.0178787863
Fax:

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quote]

Jonathon's phone number as listed above is not a Blackhill dialling code, but for Colchester, in another part of the UK entirely.

It's also not a legitimate UK phone number, as it requires another digit. But you might not realise that if you're sitting out in Costa Rica, maybe.

lol

For whomever is interested.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJaSX...re=fvw#t=4m17s

Also, don't skip over this post just because it's from a noob guys.

Indeed, and the correct dialing code for Consett is 01207 so not as though he misplaced a digit. It's interesting to me how many companies are run out of this house (note that it's not an office building - check googlemaps and look along the street).

For example: http://www.paradise8.com/termsofuse uses Jonathon's home payment service company (?!) but it is run by his mate a couple of miles away in Shotley Bridge.

http://www.eltbillcs.com/ must be the payment services company in question. related company http://www.eltdating.com/faq

He's also running INTERNATIONAL BIOTECHNOLOGY INVESTMENTS LIMITED (see http://www.alacrastore.com/storecont...4_CreditReport).

Galloway Limited: http://www.ukdata.com/numbers/05243928.html
Instar resources limited.

and a bunch of other companies that exist (i.e. they're registered with companies house) but don't seem to transact any business.

How can anyone run a legitimate payment services company from a normal detached house, rather than an office?

Finally, if you check the records for 'DIMENSUS LIMITED', this company was legally dissolved on 17th March 2009, so how can it still be transacting any business?

ul Dave

gg pbp

Ah I should have read the OP - we already knew the company was dissolved
Does anyone know what the new company in Cyprus is called? There is no 'Dimensus Limited' in Cyprus.

This probably just means that a lawyer lives there who acts as an agent to register remote companies for a fee and funnel mail. That's show shells works. Same thing in Costa Rica and Cypress (where they supposedly moved the parent). That's why Dave didn't know they "moved" too, because that move consisted of some phone calls to a new agent.

Dave, please correct me if I say anything unfair or inaccurate, I'm not being sarcastic here, and I have no horse in this race.

Yes, and according to its own accounts it ceased to trade on 1st January 2008. There is something deeply fishy going on here, and I don't believe for a second that they have "suddenly" moved to Cyprus. I'm beginning to suspect that there is something deeply wrong about the whole Dimensus/Pitbull relationship, and am trying to get to the bottom of this.

Incidentally, one can search the list of companies registered in Cyprus, where Dimensus claims to have moved to, on the website of the 'Department of Registrar of Companies and Official Receiver' website here: http://www.drcor.mcit.gov.cy/portal/...en?cn=dimensus

There is no Dimensus registered in Cyprus. We need to know the new name of the holding company in order to decide if it exists or not

I wonder how alone PitbullPoker is in this kind of thing - how many of the very small poker sites are not registered anywhere, and do not have a registered company anywhere that owns them? Are pitbull and others just run out of a guys bedroom somewhere with a couple of mates helping him out?

As a comparison I searched out the info for the biggest site. PokerStars and PokerStars.com are indeed registered in IoM (no way to tell what company does what) , PokerStars PLC is a dissolved company that was registered in the IoM (presumably a previous name for the current company). PokerStars are not registered in the UK, but the POKERSTARS.COM FPP STORE UK LTD is a registered UK company.

Your link returns a hit:
DIMENSUS LIMITED
C 182747
Current Name
Active
25/08/2006

Rational Entertainment is a real brick and mortar company in the Isle of Man, UK. That's Poker Stars. They don't use sham shells.

Haha, you are right sorry - I have pop-ups blocked in Firefox and didn't even see that it was *trying* to pop-up a new window. Strangely designed website. The pop-up was blocked in IE as well but at least I saw that something was trying to appear

So is this the company that controls Pitbull poker now? I can't see any way to get more information about them than what you just posted...

So Dimensus (Cyprus) has been active since August 2006. Is this the same company as Dimensus (UK) which ceased to trade in January 2008? Which, if either, actually owns Pitbull?

I doubt there is anything to know. I'm sure it's a remote registered company with a local agent who receives mail and funnels it to the owner. Trust companies (often just a local lawyer) do this in all these offshore locations. It is nothing but a layer of detachment for legal protection and anonymous operation, shielding the real owners. This isn't really that unusual even for legitimate companies in the gambling space. Full Tilt for example, has real operations in Ireland (Pocket Kings) and in Alderney (Filco Ltd) and in Canada (Tiltproof) but they also have some sort of shell in Aruba (Kolyma Ltd) that is the license holder for the gambling servers hosted in Kahnawahkee, and shields the real U.S. owners (Tiltware, aka Lederer Ferguson et.al.) from technically operating an illegal gambling business from the U.S. I don't claim to know the full details of the FT structure, but I know the entities I mention all exist. I even hate to use them as an example here, since I think they operate a totally honest business.

wow good work 2p2. i am impressed.