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Old 04-18-2009, 02:18 PM   #2401
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Re: The great "Poker is rigged debate" - Collected threads edition

Micro stakes are so cruel .. I am having a brake now after broking my monitor.
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Old 04-18-2009, 02:21 PM   #2402
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This is officially now the Zoo BBV thread (someone else mentioned it a few pages back).

$55K downswing.

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Old 04-18-2009, 02:32 PM   #2403
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From now on in this thread i will post sumarries from my sessions. I will post all all-in situations where i was all-in or called someones all-in and results.
For what reason?
To prove / illustrate what?
Do you have any analysis of what you have posted?
Do you think your time would be better spent posting your whole hand history so people can help you play less tragically?
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Old 04-18-2009, 02:53 PM   #2404
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From now on in this thread i will post sumarries from my sessions. I will post all all-in situations where i was all-in or called someones all-in and results.
Please don't, at least if you're not going to include things like stack sizes and when the chips went in.

"ZOMG you guys, I lost a few 70/30s, it's amazing!" is pointless, and proves nothing.
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Old 04-18-2009, 02:57 PM   #2405
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I know that i can beat those 3.25$ games, i fkn know it and THEY know it too!
If you cant beat the $3.25 games (rigged or not) it's because you aren't that good.
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Old 04-18-2009, 02:57 PM   #2406
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ok, ok, i get it, i will repost with hand histories, thought it would take lot of space and posted without hh's.
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Old 04-18-2009, 03:00 PM   #2407
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If you cant beat the $3.25 games (rigged or not) it's because you aren't that good.
ok, goooot one. i will post hh's and you will give your "goooot" advice where i played bad and how to improve my game.
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Old 04-18-2009, 03:06 PM   #2408
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For what reason?
To prove / illustrate what?
Do you have any analysis of what you have posted?
Do you think your time would be better spent posting your whole hand history so people can help you play less tragically?
That's the problem with rigtards.

They never ever take responsibility for their poor results on the basis of their evident lack of knowledge of probability maths.

Instead we get lachrymose posts about how hard done by they are because of sites rigging the deal.

Anyone who can describe the normal ebb and flow of probability as 'this b/s' hasn't even started to learn poker yet.
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Old 04-18-2009, 04:32 PM   #2409
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I will give a little background about how i play in micro stakes SNG's early stages, because in hh's u can see all-in situations which ussually occure when blind go up to 50/100.

(10/20, 15/30) i limp pairs 22-TT, AJ or call reasonably sized bets for set mining. I limp suited ace rags too for flush draws. I raise JJ+, AQ+, i re-raise someones raise with QQ+ and AK (with these hands im willing to go all-in in early stages if situation occurs). If i raise PF and get callers and hit flop hard, ex. i raise with AK get 2 callers and flop comes A8T, I C-BET 100% OF THE TIME! I know what disaster can happen if you check for trapping and give free card for idiots who call PF raises with 87s. If i set mine and hit, I ALWAYS BET no matter what, i don't slowplay in micro stakes never!

t3h hh's for mr.gooot to plug my leaks.

2009/04/18 [1.session]

KK < AT


A8 > Q6


AK < A5


QQ > T7


AK > AQ



JT < K9



82 > JJ



A7 < AQ


88 < AT



JJ > AQ



AT < JJ



K3 < AA


AJ > 45


JJ < KK



AA > AJ


A7 < QT


QQ < AT



A7 > KJ


KT < 99



KT > QJ




QQ < AJ


99 > KQ


KQ < 99


85 < AQ < AK




88 < KK


AA > QJ



AQ < A8


A5 > 88



AK < AK < TT



22 > AJ



AK < 77


AQ < 55



A8 > 77


AQ > A9



45 < KQ


Q9 < JQ


AJ > K8



AJ < AA


KK < AK



A2 < J9


A4 < 79


T5 > KK


T9 < AJ


AK < A9


Sessions summary:
SNG's played - 24
Stakes - 3.25$/6.25$/45
FTs made - 2
Money finished - 0
Profit - [-110$]

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Old 04-18-2009, 04:34 PM   #2410
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^^^^
You want people to read big walls of unconverted HH's posted in the wrong forum.

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ok, goooot one. i will post hh's and you will give your "goooot" advice where i played bad and how to improve my game.
No need, start here beginners questions gl.
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Old 04-18-2009, 05:23 PM   #2411
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I'll admit I gave up about halfway through those, but I'm not sure exactly what they're supposed to prove. The best hand won most of the time, and a lot of the time you played your hands pretty poorly, especially this gem:
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A7 > KJ

Seat 2: nawor1998 (3820 in chips)
Seat 3: Sopa1981 (2210 in chips)
Seat 4: lenasrokas (635 in chips)
Seat 5: Mops12 (2680 in chips)
Seat 6: tassat609 (805 in chips)
Seat 7: patou24 (2435 in chips)
Seat 9: 25-Life (915 in chips)
patou24: posts small blind 25
25-Life: posts big blind 50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to lenasrokas [Ac 7c]
nawor1998: folds
Sopa1981: folds
lenasrokas: calls 50
Mops12: raises 100 to 150
tassat609: folds
patou24: calls 125
25-Life: folds
lenasrokas: calls 100
*** FLOP *** [6c 4c Ks]
patou24: bets 200
lenasrokas: raises 285 to 485 and is all-in
Mops12: folds
patou24: calls 285
*** TURN *** [6c 4c Ks] [9c]
*** RIVER *** [6c 4c Ks 9c] [5s]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
patou24: shows [Kc Jh] (a pair of Kings)
lenasrokas: shows [Ac 7c] (a flush, Ace high)
lenasrokas collected 1470 from pot
Limp/calling a third of your stack with a suited ace is lolbad. What was your plan for a flop like 26K?
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Old 04-18-2009, 05:56 PM   #2412
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it was sooted.
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Old 04-18-2009, 08:05 PM   #2413
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lenasrokas

help costs money. u need lots of it get spending

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Old 04-18-2009, 11:31 PM   #2414
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help costs money. u need lots of it get spending
Why'd you quote the entire post for that?
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Old 04-19-2009, 04:59 AM   #2415
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help costs money. u need lots of it get spending
could you give me some free advice? 'cause i can't bet 3.25$ SNG's and i don't have that much money. could you show me where could i play hand diferently than i played? 'cause 90% of those hands are standard PF all-ins.
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Old 04-19-2009, 05:37 AM   #2416
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could you give me some free advice? 'cause i can't bet 3.25$ SNG's and i don't have that much money. could you show me where could i play hand diferently than i played? 'cause 90% of those hands are standard PF all-ins.
This is the wrong forum for getting playing advice.

You'll get much better response in a more appropriate forum and where your question isn't swamped by all this rigging nonsense.
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Old 04-19-2009, 07:47 AM   #2417
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could you give me some free advice? 'cause i can't bet 3.25$ SNG's and i don't have that much money. could you show me where could i play hand diferently than i played? 'cause 90% of those hands are standard PF all-ins.
It would be easier if you converted the hands mate. No one can be bothered to read all that.
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Old 04-19-2009, 10:36 AM   #2418
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It would be easier if you converted the hands mate. No one can be bothered to read all that.
He's right (for once).

We'd much prefer to ignore correctly formated HH's.
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Old 04-19-2009, 10:47 AM   #2419
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its such a joke when you can call out the cards when you see them.

aa vs q9

Inside straight with a 10 on the river to finish.

Yup, what a surprise.
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Old 04-19-2009, 10:53 AM   #2420
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its such a joke when you can call out the cards when you see them.

aa vs q9

Inside straight with a 10 on the river to finish.

Yup, what a surprise.
If you know a site where that happens every time then it's rigged.

If you're just whining about losing a hand where you had PA's, grow up.
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Old 04-19-2009, 11:10 AM   #2421
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its such a joke when you can call out the cards when you see them.

aa vs q9

Inside straight with a 10 on the river to finish.

Yup, what a surprise.

Just to give some perspective, for the 1 out of 10 times you are correct and think you are some sort of prophet saying this on the turn (when generally no one else will care), there will be 9 out of 10 times you are wrong and just look like someone who whines a lot. This just after you won the hand.

Imagine playing with someone who behaves like that all the time. Now realize it is you.

Anyway, best of luck.
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Old 04-19-2009, 11:26 AM   #2422
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He's right (for once).

We'd much prefer to ignore correctly formated HH's.
You dirty scumbag ..
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Old 04-19-2009, 11:49 AM   #2423
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Imagine playing with someone who behaves like that all the time. Now realize it is you.
wp, sir.
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Old 04-19-2009, 03:03 PM   #2424
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This is quite shocking news and a worrying development in this thread that I had not thought of. I just assumed all these sites were non-profitable charitable companies
I'm Shocked!
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I will give a little background about how i play in micro stakes SNG's early stages, because in hh's u can see all-in situations which ussually occure when blind go up to 50/100.

(10/20, 15/30) i limp pairs 22-TT, AJ or call reasonably sized bets for set mining. I limp suited ace rags too for flush draws. I raise JJ+, AQ+, i re-raise someones raise with QQ+ and AK (with these hands im willing to go all-in in early stages if situation occurs). If i raise PF and get callers and hit flop hard, ex. i raise with AK get 2 callers and flop comes A8T, I C-BET 100% OF THE TIME! I know what disaster can happen if you check for trapping and give free card for idiots who call PF raises with 87s. If i set mine and hit, I ALWAYS BET no matter what, i don't slowplay in micro stakes never!

t3h hh's for mr.gooot to plug my leaks.
len should be banned for posting all those unconverted hand histories and for posting them here in some pathetic attempt to show how it wasn't he wasn't the victim of those mean and greedy poker sites. btw, how did they choose to make him the dupe and others as the beneficiaries of the dishonest business practices?
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a lot of the time you played your hands pretty poorly, especially this gem:


OPEN-LIMPING is lolbad.
Simplified your post.
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