While you can't prove that a site isn't cheating overall, you can very easily test different theories of how they could cheat. If you think you're being cheated of equity in multiway pots, you're kind of hosed unless you can only look at ones that go to showdown. Even then though, if it happens frequently enough that you're going to die believing it's true, it should happen often enough to run some filters on, right?

Dude, that's ******ed.

you mean you "calculated" a statistic which can be easily Googled??!?!?!
Perhaps you should've done at least one Search Engine module.
This is clearly the most correct thing you've posted so far.
Yeah, we're quite impressed with your maths degrees which taught you to figure out a statistic which is available to anyone who can use the internet. That's kind of like using an abacus to figure out a simple multiplication problem instead of just consulting a chart of multiplication tables
because he only has an iPhone.


and, for kicks...

also, just got this from Josem

http://dailyshow.comedy.com/2010/02/...dy.com+Feed%29

and

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUF2i8Anh00

This is wrong. They've always published (for a while anyway) that they use the VIA C7 hardware RNG.

http://www.fulltiltpoker.com/random-number-generator

http://www.via.com.tw/en/initiatives...atures.jsp#rng

you get the info, I'll pass it along to Josem and we'll see what he says.

Frankly, I'm kinda mad at myself for posting something so on-topic ITT.

yes, let's all get offended about a word that has 5/6 uses that no-one in their right mind considers offensive.

damn 4b's itt

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http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/******

Ok, you don't technically say you have calculated that Ipoker hand distribution is wrong so perhaps you weren't lying or mistaken. It was just misleading to mention calculations and repeat that things are "off" in multiple posts when all you have done is "feel" something is off.

Just get PT/HEM on your (or somebody elses) computer and we won't have any more of these misunderstandings.

some amazing new stats ive come across when i have less chps then villain i am getting dealt aa kk qq aks ako and up against a better hand 39 percent of the time and losing 4 times more chips then im supposed and my set percentage is 1.6 percent

now when i have more chips then villain im getting deal aa kk qq aks ako double the amount of times as when i had less chips and not only that but getting it in 70 percent favorite and winning more then double my equity in chips and hitting sets at a rate of 16 percent thats 16 ****ing percent of 1.6 percent and please keep in mind i have filtered events at 3300 when more chips and 3200 when less chips

another amazing thing is when i have more chips im getting dealt aces at a rate of 3 times more then when i have less chips. and yup you guessed it im hitting sets at 3 times the rate with more chps vs less chips....

its so ****ing rigged ainec

Sorry, how many times are you getting dealt AA and facing a better hand?

i said aa kk qq ako aks so stop trying to be smart ass

I'm not being a smart ass, your statement, as written, makes no sense. Which makes me question what you have done.

So why don't you be a little more explicit: what exactly did you calculate, how did you do it, what was the sample size, what are the results? What do you expect us to make of your post? In short, please show us how you arrived at the conclusions that you find so amazing. Perhaps they are amazing. Perhaps not. Your post gives us no way of knowing.

i filtered by when i had more chips then villain then filtered my hole cards for aa kk qq aks ako starting sample size was 198k and filtered was around 3300 both ways and i doubt anybody here will help me anyway... just posting it to give you guys some real work to do so you can proceed with the posting about how wrong i am and how i dont listen to you and how my calculations are wrong..... proceed on... earn your keep

So if I understand you correctly your saying you ran above expectation when you had more chips than the villan?

And were these hands all in preflop?

no i filtered that too and the same story is being told...

it basically tells me do whatever it takes to rape to get more chips then the opponents at the table and i will get aa kk qq aks ako at a rate of double then when i have less chips and will hold up at a rate of 3 times more then when i have less chips its also telling me when i do get ak qq kk and im up against a villain with more chips i could just play small ball and get away from the hand on drawy boards and bad flop textures cause im statistically handicapped with less chips.

Sounds like you're all set to really profit! Congrats on your future success!

im glad we can finally agree that the rng is im not gonna say rigged cause something has to be ILLEGAL for it to be rigged its just standard business for online poker sites... anything to make more money... ok im on board.. im a believer cause math and stats done lie. oh by the way if anybody is interested in viewing an lol tourney 55 fo where i just pretty much get it in on a continuous basis with more chips with trash and get there get there get there and eventually shipped the tourney... pretty amazing... got it in at 37 percent equity on average.. and absoulutley sucked out on everyone.

Wow! I'm definitely jealous! GG! It's great when you figure it out and have an edge, eh? Let us know when you're killing the nosebleeds and we'll come a rail you!

oh now i understand why you cant relate you dont even play mtts... ur a cash game player

i have 0 stats in cash game statistics and would imagine more profit for the poker sites would be obtained by doing the complete opposite in cash games that they would do in mtts

He says that he plays micro cash game. I think he works for one of the sites and is part of the wear anyone out who starts figuring it out crew here. Take your findings to the news once you are sure you are seeing something wrong. Confirm it with someone who has more math background first though.

It has been the same story in tournaments I have been in lately. All in for the first time all tournament with KK and dude tries to ship half of his stack only to hit an ace on the river... so ridiculous.

Arouet is one of the most patient non-rigtards in this thread. The fact that you would think he of all people has some sort of agenda is laughable.

You've cracked the code. We can all go home now.