I'm looking forward to e0b's next posts with a mixture of anticipation and dread.

They're good for a little comic relief.

Time to fix your posts per page settings IMO.

That's the setting I have as a matter of choice.

I can only speak for limit poker. Maybe nl is different. But I don't know anyone who beats small stakes online that doesn't absolutely crush live mid limit games. I know of many live winning players who can't beat online. Like I said, maybe nl is different due to tells, etc.

So my experience is the opposite of what you're suggesting.

Maybee better opponents are the reason, maybee the deck or the many cheaters.

For me both is real created deck and any kind of cheating colluding, but that does not mean that noone can win online. Only the profit is reduced.

I definitely agree profit online is definitely reduced. Even though I'm a winning player online, I'm a riggie. I do think something is wrong. I just don't know exactly what and have no way of proving it, so it's a moot point. I've posted a couple of questions to the more knowledgeable posters here, but there's no sense in me crying and making a gazillion post about what I think, since I can't back it up. I will say this... If I knew for a fact that someone held the definitive answer one way or the other, I'd bet my entire bankroll that I'm being cheated out of a portion of my equity somehow. I might even lay odds on it. So if anyone ever comes up with conclusive proof, they can make some side money off me.

I don't play limit poker so I have no idea. But I will say that when I do come across online players, they're nothing special. Most of them keep trying those fancy plays that don't fare so well in the live arena (remember, those kind of plays only work when people understand/respect them ). This is just my experience.

Its ego thats really the problem here. Most of these guys cant stand being told being great at online poker doesnt mean youre an all around pro. Some of these guys are swearing that an online pro is better than a live one.

What a joke.

Like i said, a bunch of moderately successful online players running around screaming "we're pros, we're pros".

Once again, thats NOT a deck of cards youre being dealt. That IS a program designed for a poker site, designed to make them money. None of these businesses started to give you a authentic poker experience, they did it to make money.

Its NOT the same as live poker no matter how many things you say to try to make it seem so. Its different. Period. If you read my original post, youll see that i said that winning at online poker does take some skill.

Funny that i play at Foxwoods 4-5 days a week and watch online "pros" get killed live. Most of these guys are a joke, impatient and unable to control their tells. These guys often play as if theyre expecting the bad beat fest you see online, and look suprised when its not that way.

You guys are fascinating. Its like a Madden video game pro believing he can hack it in the real nfl. Good luck. From what ive seen of you jokers in live poker, youll really need it

So how did you know how successful they were at all?

I don't imagine most good players run around going "zomg I'm the best I crush online!" Those guys tend to be, well...terrible, online and off. Almost seems like you're a Real Deal shill planting the seeds for the big reveal. Yep, that's exactly the same thing. Pretty weird that all the top winners online seem to be able to win just as much, if not more live, though.

IHBT. IHL.

no otatop, they HAVENT. From moorman to dwan, by their own admissions, have NOT been as successful live.

Not so "weird'. Keep tdelling yourself that online play translates to real life. Eventually youll believe it. When you do, do me a favor and take a grand or two down to foxwoods for the weekend. Ask for baseball mike and tell him youre looking for robby j. Id be more than happy to take your money.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=axgHT...eature=related

Cheating? Online poker? NAHHHHHHH!!!! Never happen. Oh wait...

Link to back up Dwan saying he hasn't been as successful live? Already do, so... Sure, let me go ahead and fly across the country to play some random HU4Rolls. I'll get right on that. No way, people cheated on AP and UB? If only people on this very forum had discovered that.

Thank god no one has ever, EVER cheated at live poker. We all know no one ever dos that.

IHBT. IHL.

Good looking guy at 1.54 in that video, imo.

qft

The irony here is unbelievable.

http://www.wsop.com/tournaments/chip...=764&tid=10832

Cliffs: Tom Dwan chip leader of event #11 going to final table.


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While we're at it, Micro Stakes Full Ring mod KurtSF just took 7th in Event #8 recently.

You know eyes, there are few things more annoying than somebody who shows up out of the blue (obviously not your first account) and starts spouting off about a bunch of things and proving himself wrong in the process. You keep making these statements as though they're fact and there are more holes in them than swiss cheese.

I am no way calling either side "better" than the other. And this guy's an idiot. Bringing up Dwan is an epic fail when speaking about online players "not making it" in the live world of poker. He does extremely well. As do countless others.

When you're atop the best in either online poker or live poker, you're a great player regardless of where you play. So it doesn't matter at those levels.. great players are great players. But in everything below those levels, I'd have to say that online poker players are ahead of the curve as they say. The learn faster, they learn more, and they use their information in a more consistent manner than do live players.

This doesn't mean that online poker players can all cross over and crush us live players at will. If that were the case then we'd see a lot more of them playing live (and that's not really the case imo). They play most of their poker online still and only play occasionally live (low to midstakes players that is).

I could be dead ass wrong though..
But I'd put my money on it that I'm not

My cousin looks a hell of a lot like you! QFFT!!

Amen, these sites are in the money business. If they let the shuffle be fair there would probably half the players playing since the donks would lose their bankroll since 1. they suck and 2. they dont manage their bankrolls.

wrong

I knew there had to be some reason you keep posting when you're getting pwned at every turn.

Is that what causes you to ignore any replies and/or questions directed to you that poke gaping holes in many of your claims?

It has to be said.

That really is bog standard 'tard behaviour.

Please name one service/store/company/corporation/etc that is not "in the money business". The Red Cross is in it for the money ffs! Churches, too! Now you wanna target online poker sites for trying to make money? haha