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Old 04-14-2009, 03:57 PM   #2101
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FWIW I've never seen that before. Don't think I've ever even seen AA 3 times in a row.
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Old 04-14-2009, 03:59 PM   #2102
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FWIW I've never seen that before. Don't think I've ever even seen AA 3 times in a row.
I don't think I have either.

Hey Dave, you see this a lot?
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Old 04-14-2009, 04:00 PM   #2103
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But not always.
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Old 04-14-2009, 04:04 PM   #2104
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I'm quite surprised that the main response to my posts were the same as if I'd said "omg my AA just got beaten by someone with 55". Something with an 80% probability. Also getting 5 AA in 30 hands is no where near as unlikely as 4 AA in 5 hands. We're talking orders of magnitude here. I accept the rationalisation that there have been billions of hands on Full Tilt, hence this situation has occurred due to weight of numbers. But when you observe an incredibly unlikely event, you really need to question your assumptions.
You were fortunate to witness a very unlikely event that you may never see again. That event was not in any way evidence of any deal rigging, in fact it was the opposite and shows randomness. Or evidence of incredibly stupid rigging. Many thousands of players have checked their large hand histories and shown that they got Aces pretty close to 1/221 for all their hands dealt. I guess your example guy was just singled out. Oh wait, he got the.... wait for it...
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Old 04-14-2009, 04:08 PM   #2105
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ahh - it's all in the timing!
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Old 04-14-2009, 04:36 PM   #2106
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http://www.xtranormal.com/watch?e=20090402201522532

http://www.xtranormal.com/watch?e=20090222182227485
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Old 04-14-2009, 04:42 PM   #2107
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Oh man, they never should have let that leak out. Kind of funny their office looks a bit like a talk show set, but I'm sure they have their reasons.
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Old 04-14-2009, 04:54 PM   #2108
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I do not feel that online poker is rigged, but like others FTP has me wondering. like others have said the way the villian plays the pot to get there on the river is just ridiculous sometimes. Play stars, stars is legit. though I do believe they tilt the scale in the big stack winning a little more
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Old 04-14-2009, 04:58 PM   #2109
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Play stars, stars is legit. though I do believe they tilt the scale in the big stack winning a little more
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Old 04-14-2009, 04:59 PM   #2110
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spadebidder, that XtraNormal site is awesome. I joined
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Old 04-14-2009, 05:03 PM   #2111
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I do not feel that online poker is rigged, but like others FTP has me wondering. like others have said the way the villian plays the pot to get there on the river is just ridiculous sometimes.
I "got there" on the river once at Full Tilt.
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Play stars, stars is legit. though I do believe they tilt the scale in the big stack winning a little more
so which is it?
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Old 04-14-2009, 05:07 PM   #2112
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"....knows better than any one that secrecy is the soul of business, and that in politics a project once disclosed is a project doomed to failure."
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Old 04-14-2009, 06:07 PM   #2113
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I do not feel that online poker is rigged, but like others FTP has me wondering.
So, which is it?
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Old 04-14-2009, 06:47 PM   #2114
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So, which is it?
i don't feel like online poker is rigged atm, but i am starting to wonder... what is there not to get? I never said it was one or the other
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Old 04-14-2009, 07:44 PM   #2115
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the bottom line is this. if you are a winning player or a losing player, that probably wont change if the site is rigged.

if the site is rigged to generate more rake for the site then it will work for you just as much as it works against you and you will probably not be able to detect anything in your recorded stats

just my opinion
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i don't feel like online poker is rigged atm, but i am starting to wonder... what is there not to get? I never said it was one or the other
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I do not feel that online poker is rigged, but like others FTP has me wondering. like others have said the way the villian plays the pot to get there on the river is just ridiculous sometimes. Play stars, stars is legit. though I do believe they tilt the scale in the big stack winning a little more
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Old 04-15-2009, 03:41 AM   #2117
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the bottom line is this. if you are a winning player or a losing player, that probably wont change if the site is rigged.

if the site is rigged to generate more rake for the site then it will work for you just as much as it works against you and you will probably not be able to detect anything in your recorded stats

just more mindless waffle
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Old 04-15-2009, 03:47 AM   #2118
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i don't feel like online poker is rigged atm, but i am starting to wonder...
So you don't think it's rugged?

But you wonder if it's rigged?

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what is there not to get? I never said it was one or the other
Well, actually, you did. You said: "I do not feel that online poker is rigged".

That is a very definite statement and one that is at odds with your subsequent statement that you are starting to wonder.

The correct way to get accross your state of mind would be: "I am not sure if on line poker is rigged".

Given the fact that there is not one shred of evidience that it is and that there is much logical argument against it being in a site's interest to do so, that qualifies you as a rigtard.
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Old 04-15-2009, 05:34 AM   #2119
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I do not feel that online poker is rigged, but like others FTP has me wondering. like others have said the way the villian plays the pot to get there on the river is just ridiculous sometimes. Play stars, stars is legit. though I do believe they tilt the scale in the big stack winning a little more
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Old 04-15-2009, 05:44 AM   #2120
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Bad beats are part of the game. I understand that. But after absorbing more than my fair share on Poker Stars I switched to Full Tilt six months ago. The first few months were much better over on Full Tilt.

Now Full Tilt is worse than Poker Stars ever was. The past month has been brutal. Tonight I've had pocket aces six times. All six times I lost to someone with a lower pocket pair.

I can't tell you how many times (at least 100 times the past thee weeks) where someone needs one card, especially two or three hours into a tournament, and they hit when odds are 90 to 95% in my favor.

You tell yourself that's poker until it happens time after time after time.

I enjoy playing poker online but I'm about ready to give it up. There doesn't seem to be a site to where it plays out like a casino. You see bad beats in a casino but NOTHING like Full Tilt and Poker Stars back when I played over on that site.

Curious as to others observations. Is there a site that's on the up and up or is it time to retire from online poker where you start to get the feeling the deck literally is stacked against you?
many more hands seen in a short amount of time online. you cannot in no way compare it to casino poker. lol start logging results when u play at the casino and compare it to your online stats over a decent volume of hands. if u run the same amount of hands live (which would take a ridiculous amount of time) you would not complain as much. if your looking for "a site to play out like a casino" then online poker is not for you. to many hands played in comparison to "a casino"
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Old 04-15-2009, 06:20 AM   #2121
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I do not feel that online poker is rigged, but like others FTP has me wondering. like others have said the way the villian plays the pot to get there on the river is just ridiculous sometimes. Play stars, stars is legit. though I do believe they tilt the scale in the big stack winning a little more
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i don't feel like online poker is rigged atm, but i am starting to wonder... what is there not to get? I never said it was one or the other
"What is there not to get?" Seriously?
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Old 04-15-2009, 06:48 AM   #2122
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Well the first part can be interpreted as a "Well, maybe it's rigged. I don't really know." But his statement about Stars is just...

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Old 04-15-2009, 06:50 AM   #2123
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So you don't think it's rugged?

But you wonder if it's rigged?



Well, actually, you did. You said: "I do not feel that online poker is rigged".

That is a very definite statement and one that is at odds with your subsequent statement that you are starting to wonder.

The correct way to get accross your state of mind would be: "I am not sure if on line poker is rigged".

Given the fact that there is not one shred of evidience that it is and that there is much logical argument against it being in a site's interest to do so, that qualifies you as a rigtard.
More useful contributions from qpw I see.

What was the point of this post shill?

Evidence boy what was the point of your second language post also?

BTW AA 4/5 hands =100% Rigged IMO.
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Old 04-15-2009, 06:58 AM   #2124
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I've not gotten AA in 221 consecutive hands before multiple times in the past. 100% rigged imo since you're supposed to get it on average once every 221 hands (I think).

I've come in last in a tournament before. 100% rigged.

I've come in first in a tournament before. 100% legit.

I've once lost with quads to a straight flush in NLHE. 100% rigged.

I've twice won with a straight flush to quads in NLHE. 100% legit.
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I've come in first in a tournament before
Proof or it never happened
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