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05-11-2010 , 08:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Snipa
Ive cracked pokerstars...... seriously i understand it.

The worse you get it in the more you win.

Heres examples of the last few games that stars ass ****ed me with then i tried it myself and it works.

1 -
62 flop 627 i raise he shoves, has 59 turns a 8 instantly.

1-0 Pokerstars for having a awful RNG.

2 -
A8 flop 887 i raise he shoves, has 610 turns a 9
2-0 Pokerstars for having a awful RNG

3 -

AK vs Q7 all in PF for 1.5k
Q77 LAWL [Then straight after in the next game i get in with QK vs 33 and it blanks the whole way, typcal bad RNG from stars]

3-0 Stars.

So i test it myself right, sick of this awful RNG so i shove trash to see what happens.

56 flop 37K he raises i jam he has AK.
Any guesses what i hit?

Yup the 4.

Lmfao..... i thought i cracked this website a few weeks back as i did it before a few times and tried it, i noticed the more outs you have the less chance you have of hitting them, but the less outs means you hit them more than normal.

Which is why almost everytime ive done this "test" where i jam a 4 outer or less i win.
But when i jam 12+ i win once every blue moon.

Pokerstars is a amazing piece of software, i suggest everyone plays there gets 4 outs jams the flop and watch the money roll in.
Well, you should be pretty happy then, now that you know how to crack the RNG you should really start raking it in now. Actually, it will be a much more fun way to play since there are so many more trash hands than good hands, so you'll be in the action a lot more, AND raking in the pots! I'm surprised you shared this with everyone, though. If everyone starts doing this they're going to have to go back to rigging it the other way and only rewarding good hands agian, you know, to even it out.

In the meantime, please let us know when you get up to the nosebleeds so we can rail you.
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05-11-2010 , 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Wiki
Alors n'est-ce pas absurde de dire à tous ici quand vous auriez pu faire fortune pour vous-même en utilisant ces connaissances?
Then isn't that right absurd to say to all here when you could have done fortune for yourself while using these knowledge. PS please dont drop french let everyone here understand.
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05-11-2010 , 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Arouet
Well, you should be pretty happy then, now that you know how to crack the RNG you should really start raking it in now. Actually, it will be a much more fun way to play since there are so many more trash hands than good hands, so you'll be in the action a lot more, AND raking in the pots! I'm surprised you shared this with everyone, though. If everyone starts doing this they're going to have to go back to rigging it the other way and only rewarding good hands agian, you know, to even it out.

In the meantime, please let us know when you get up to the nosebleeds so we can rail you.

He'll been in Bobby's Room in noooo time!
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05-11-2010 , 08:59 AM
Thanks stars, im down 6 BI's to this guy, your amazing.

As i said less outs = more chance to win.
3 K's to hit, no problem.
6 A/Q's F UCK OFFFFFF.

The guy has played like 400 games and is unbeatable, he calls like 800 with ATC and wins 100% becuase of stars amazingly bad RNG.

Just get in with anything and your unbeatable on this site.
How can anyone back up this site isnt rigged?

It doesnt take ANY form of skill to win.
Its all up to weather pokerstars decides to fu ck you over or not.



Hand #1
Poker Stars $20+$1 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t10/t20 Blinds - 2 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

BTN/SB: t430 M = 14.33
Hero (BB): t2570 M = 85.67

Pre Flop: (t30) Hero is BB with J J
BTN/SB raises to t430 all in, Hero calls t410

Flop: (t860) 4 2 8 (2 players - 1 is all in)

Turn: (t860) K (2 players - 1 is all in)

River: (t860) 9 (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: t860
BTN/SB shows 9 K (two pair, Kings and Nines)
Hero shows J J (a pair of Jacks)
BTN/SB wins t860


Hand #2
Poker Stars $20+$1 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t10/t20 Blinds - 2 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

BB: t860 M = 28.67
Hero (BTN/SB): t2140 M = 71.33

Pre Flop: (t30) Hero is BTN/SB with A Q
Hero raises to t60, BB raises to t860 all in, Hero calls t800

Flop: (t1720) 8 3 3 (2 players - 1 is all in)

Turn: (t1720) T (2 players - 1 is all in)

River: (t1720) 6 (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: t1720
BB shows 4 4 (two pair, Fours and Threes)
Hero shows A Q (a pair of Threes)
BB wins t1720
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05-11-2010 , 09:02 AM
See what i mean.

Ive lost like 8 BI's to the same guy and hes won every single all in weather he has 3 outs or not.

This site is rigged beyond imagination.
Aslong has he has 4 outs or less he will NEVER miss..

Why?

Hes hardly played poker on stars which means they have to give him a advantage so he thinks hes amazing.

I got him down to 500 chips like 6 times and lost 100% of all ins, all which he had 3 outs or less and never missed.

Soemone file a lawsuit or shut this website down, its terrible.
Terrible isnt even the word for how bad and how badly rigged this website is.

Seriously guys try what the people who make profit do on this site, SHOVE 4 OUTS OR LESS AND YOU NEVER EVER EVER MISS.

Hand #1
Poker Stars $20+$1 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t10/t20 Blinds - 2 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

BB: t770 M = 25.67
Hero (BTN/SB): t2230 M = 74.33

Pre Flop: (t30) Hero is BTN/SB with K A
Hero raises to t60, BB raises to t770 all in, Hero calls t710

Flop: (t1540) 9 5 3 (2 players - 1 is all in)

Turn: (t1540) 3 (2 players - 1 is all in)

River: (t1540) Q (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: t1540
BB shows Q A (two pair, Queens and Threes)
Hero shows K A (a pair of Threes)
BB wins t1540


Hand #2
Poker Stars $20+$1 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t10/t20 Blinds - 2 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

BTN/SB: t1490 M = 49.67
Hero (BB): t1510 M = 50.33

Pre Flop: (t30) Hero is BB with 5 A
BTN/SB raises to t60, Hero raises to t1510 all in, BTN/SB calls t1430 all in

Flop: (t2980) K 8 7 (2 players - 2 are all in)

Turn: (t2980) 8 (2 players - 2 are all in)

River: (t2980) 9 (2 players - 2 are all in)

Final Pot: t2980
BTN/SB shows J A (a pair of Eights - Ace+King+Jack kicker)
Hero shows 5 A (a pair of Eights)
BTN/SB wins t2980
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05-11-2010 , 09:06 AM
URNOTDOINGITRIGHT
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05-11-2010 , 09:23 AM
lol im sorry but this website is making me literally piss myself at how bad it is and how it totally removes the theory of poker = skillful at any %

25/50 blinds, guy limps i raise it up to 300.
Flop comes 10J9 he has Q8o lol.

Other table.
50/100 blinds, JJ guy limps i raise it up to 350.
Flop comes J97
He has 810

This site is a action site and it rewards people who never let go of all and people who have no understand of anything.

Want to win?
F uck off to stars, play ATC and watch the money roll in.

Want to lose?
F uck off to stars, play REAL hands and watch your bankroll drop drop and drop.
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05-11-2010 , 09:27 AM
Intelligence test:

Can any 'legits' concieve of a logical way a site could be rigged for substantial profits, and not get caught to date?

(If you think this is a yes or no question, you fail the test.)
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05-11-2010 , 10:22 AM
yea...when Erik Lindgren won the exact FTOPS main event he hosted, thats not rigged...no way. just coincidence?!?!
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05-11-2010 , 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by shutEMdown
yea...when Erik Lindgren won the exact FTOPS main event he hosted, thats not rigged...no way. just coincidence?!?!
erik can c teh cards xD hehehe!
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05-11-2010 , 10:41 AM
dude you should try FTP. epic failure it is.
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05-11-2010 , 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Beaten Senseless
Intelligence test:

Can any 'legits' concieve of a logical way a site could be rigged for substantial profits, and not get caught to date?

(If you think this is a yes or no question, you fail the test.)
I presume you mean apart from raking every hand? That generates substantial profits but they are only not 'caught' because there's nothing really to catch.

Other than that, Yes, but it's very complicated and there's no guarantee that they wouldn't have been caught. I would estimate that the risk to the legitimate business would be far too great to risk it.

Obviously I'm not going to explain it - I wouldn't want to give anyone ideas.
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05-11-2010 , 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by toltec444
good post, i read about this the otherday.
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05-11-2010 , 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Beaten Senseless
Intelligence test:

Can any 'legits' concieve of a logical way a site could be rigged for substantial profits, and not get caught to date?

(If you think this is a yes or no question, you fail the test.)
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Originally Posted by Lord Vetinari
I presume you mean apart from raking every hand? That generates substantial profits but they are only not 'caught' because there's nothing really to catch.

Other than that, Yes, but it's very complicated and there's no guarantee that they wouldn't have been caught. I would estimate that the risk to the legitimate business would be far too great to risk it.

Obviously I'm not going to explain it - I wouldn't want to give anyone ideas.
Fail

Anyone?
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05-11-2010 , 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Beaten Senseless
Fail
How can it be a fail when he didn't even tell you what it was?

Of course, you're such a poster boy for failure that an award of fail from you is automatically transmuted into a massive Win!
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05-11-2010 , 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Beaten Senseless
Can any 'legits' concieve of a logical way a site could be rigged for substantial profits, and not get caught to date?
Have you ever seen Superman 3 or Office Space?

Or they could just introduce a Jackpot drop and keep 10% for "administrative fees"...
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05-11-2010 , 12:44 PM
Snipa, serious question, if you honestly believe it's rigged to favour those who get it in bad, why not get it in bad yourself for substantial profits?
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05-11-2010 , 12:57 PM
bunch of tards think online poker isnt crammed with bogus money making scams....whenever there is alot of money floating around without heavy oversight, there will be scams! thats the bottom line. people are too fokin greedy. if you think otherwise, then you must think wall st is legit too.
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05-11-2010 , 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by shutEMdown
bunch of tards think online poker isnt crammed with bogus money making scams....whenever there is alot of money floating around without heavy oversight, there will be scams! thats the bottom line.
Interesting.

Do you have any evidence for the above or did you just feel the need to post some random garbage?
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05-11-2010 , 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by shutEMdown
bunch of tards think online poker is rigged and still spend all day playing online poker and posting on a poker forum.
fyp
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05-11-2010 , 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Wiki
Interesting.

Do you have any evidence for the above or did you just feel the need to post some random garbage?
yea....see recent UB/AP issue you douche!
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05-11-2010 , 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by MilkFi5h
fyp
posting in online forums doesnt necc equate to playing poker online all day...so fyp deez nutts!
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05-11-2010 , 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by shutEMdown
yea...when Erik Lindgren won the exact FTOPS main event he hosted, thats not rigged...no way. just coincidence?!?!
Every event is hosted by someone right? Quite a lot of events I assume (I don't know so feel free to correct), and the pros will obv have an edge due to skill over most of the field, so unless the fields are massive in every event I don't see why it's even slightly wierd if a host wins an event. (even with large fields, it's going to happen some of the time)
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05-11-2010 , 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by shutEMdown
yea....see recent UB/AP issue you douche!
That's just one company (or two, at a pinch).

You can no more label the whole of online poker as corrupt because of one small site than you can label the whole of B&M poker corrupt because one dealer is caught cheating.

You'll need to do a lot better than just throw in UB/AP if you want to gain traction with a generalized accusation like that.
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