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05-09-2010 , 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Beaten Senseless
If there is a "jim white" thread, please post this in that and let's keep this thread devoted to billy joel lyrics.
Well done.

That's actually quite good.
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05-09-2010 , 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Beaten Senseless
If he played poker, I imagine he would be.
Woosh!

I meant from his loss of income in shill fees.
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05-09-2010 , 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by ILikeBeer
Thats a great question-for another thread.

Then why do stt regs get money from the sites every once in a while when colluders have been discovered?

I think i'll keep it in this thread, so mindaurownbuisness
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05-09-2010 , 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by LostInCT
I think i'll keep it in this thread, so mindaurownbuisness
Yes, why not insist on looking like a dick who cannot understand threading?

It's not as if you are going to give the rigtards a worse name than they have already.
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05-09-2010 , 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Wiki
Yes, why not insist on looking like a dick who cannot understand threading?

It's not as if you are going to give the rigtards a worse name than they have already.
That name is shtphorbranez.
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05-09-2010 , 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by LVGambler
That name is shtphorbranez.
LOL.

It's a large family, none of them understand maths, stats, or probability (or poker?) and they all seem to want to post on this thread.

Oh, well.

Such is life.
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05-09-2010 , 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Wiki
Yes, why not insist on looking like a dick who cannot understand threading?

It's not as if you are going to give the rigtards a worse name than they have already.

O ok I understand now.....eatadick...thanks
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05-09-2010 , 01:25 PM
The Shtphorbranez Clan, dating back to 2700 BC, brought us many great things..

Religion (and deity worship)
The Earth is flat theory
Crying statues
Albino animal worship
and the first electronic voting machines

And to this day, their offspring doesn't disappoint:

Religion (down to one God now)
Roswell
Wallabies
Global warming
Dial-up Internet access caps
NWO nightmare scenarios
Online poker is rigged theories
and Vista Home Premium





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05-09-2010 , 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by LostInCT
O ok I understand now.
Good.

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....eatadick...
Not too interested in your sexual activities, tbh, but enjoy your 'meal' anyway.
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05-09-2010 , 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by LostInCT
I think i'll keep it in this thread, so mindaurownbuisness
This thread deals with the possible rigging of the RNGs of poker sites. Collusion, while certainly a real problem, both online and live, is a separate issue, and there are lots of threads dealing with collusion. But its not really on topic for this thread.
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05-09-2010 , 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Arouet
This thread deals with the possible rigging of the RNGs of poker sites. Collusion, while certainly a real problem, both online and live, is a separate issue, and there are lots of threads dealing with collusion. But its not really on topic for this thread.
He knows that perfectly well.

He's just being a plonker.
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05-09-2010 , 04:05 PM
I don't post very often but I do regularly read the forums and to be honest out of all the people that have a say in this thread I find Wiki adds absolutely nothing to the debate. He is like some attention seeking child tugging at his mom's apron strings. Dude, if you really wat to be accepted by your 2+2 peers so much then get on the strat threads and amaze neh dazzle us with your poker knowledge. This thread I am sure will debate a whole lot better without your trivial posts..... I thank you
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05-09-2010 , 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by fix9
I don't post very often but I do regularly read the forums and to be honest out of all the people that have a say in this thread I find Wiki adds absolutely nothing to the debate. He is like some attention seeking child tugging at his mom's apron strings. Dude, if you really wat to be accepted by your 2+2 peers so much then get on the strat threads and amaze neh dazzle us with your poker knowledge.
It's funny, all the low post count rigtards like to have a go at me.

I must be getting under their skin.

It's like a badge of honour, really.

I wonder what I'm doing right.
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05-09-2010 , 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Beaten Senseless
Wiki, your posts are, by far, the most useless and counter-productive in this thread....consistently. This doesn't seem subjective.

You mar and degrade the efforts of any legit/shill in this thread.
One thing that is plain as day......the fact that they don't 'call you out' calls their integrity into question.

It's not possible for an intelligent person to read your posts and find legitimate substance.
It's not possible for an intelligent person to argue a case with you, and not take a distancing, indignant step to the side.

Whether you are an employee of a poker site paid to confuse/harass this thread or if this is just your personality makes little difference. The end result is the same.
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Originally Posted by fix9
I don't post very often but I do regularly read the forums and to be honest out of all the people that have a say in this thread I find Wiki adds absolutely nothing to the debate. He is like some attention seeking child tugging at his mom's apron strings. Dude, if you really wat to be accepted by your 2+2 peers so much then get on the strat threads and amaze neh dazzle us with your poker knowledge. This thread I am sure will debate a whole lot better without your trivial posts..... I thank you
These, coupled with his English accent = Shill
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05-09-2010 , 05:17 PM
You don't get under my skin, I feel that conversing with you is doing my bit for the needy. You never post any valid points you just mumble on and on like the intellectually challenged individual that you are.


Here is your badge of honour, wear it with pride
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05-09-2010 , 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Beaten Senseless
You do little more than attempt to perpetuate a regress argument. Why would I exchange with you?
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Originally Posted by fix9
You don't get under my skin, I feel that conversing with you is doing my bit for the needy.
.....but he has an English accent!!!
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05-09-2010 , 11:05 PM
just want to send a message to the people who like to read posts on this site that come from players at the micro limits. We play at these limits because we dont have the bankrolls for larger limits. I firmly believe doomswitching players who play well happens at these limits a lot. how they do this is only actual programmers know. Most of the experts on this site will say"who cares". Well, I care and I believe lots of others do also. We dont have to hear from the supposed big money winners because there is no doom switch up there.Defending the sites probably helps to keep you off the switch. I got tired of losing against logical odds most of the time.
on Party. So I deposited a small amount of money on Stars. Guess what? After a few micro's doing well, bang, hand after hand,paired flops,suckouts,runner runner flushes,all against me.DOOMSWITCH?
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05-09-2010 , 11:35 PM
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Originally Posted by dugpe
just want to send a message to the people who like to read posts on this site that come from players at the micro limits. We play at these limits because we dont have the bankrolls for larger limits. I firmly believe doomswitching players who play well happens at these limits a lot.
How does this benefit any of the sites?
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05-10-2010 , 01:26 AM
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Originally Posted by dugpe
just want to send a message to the people who like to read posts on this site that come from players at the micro limits. We play at these limits because we dont have the bankrolls for larger limits. I firmly believe doomswitching players who play well happens at these limits a lot. how they do this is only actual programmers know. Most of the experts on this site will say"who cares". Well, I care and I believe lots of others do also. We dont have to hear from the supposed big money winners because there is no doom switch up there.Defending the sites probably helps to keep you off the switch. I got tired of losing against logical odds most of the time.
on Party. So I deposited a small amount of money on Stars. Guess what? After a few micro's doing well, bang, hand after hand,paired flops,suckouts,runner runner flushes,all against me.DOOMSWITCH?
There is a simple way to find the doom switch keep an excel on the side and log in all your all in hands and your opponents hands run the results over poker stove this will give you a % ahead or behind add these numbers together divide it by the number of all in will give you an average %
If your average is 61% then you should win at about 61%
To find the doomswitch you separate AA KK QQ JJ 1010 AK AQ AJ A10 KQ from the rest of the all in. only use the hands that are 51% to 100% ahead you should come out with an average ahead of about 70% compare this to what you actually win at
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05-10-2010 , 01:29 AM
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Originally Posted by sewhog
There is a simple way to find the doom switch keep an excel on the side and log in all your all in hands and your opponents hands run the results over poker stove this will give you a % ahead or behind add these numbers together divide it by the number of all in will give you an average %
If your average is 61% then you should win at about 61%
To find the doomswitch you separate AA KK QQ JJ 1010 AK AQ AJ A10 KQ from the rest of the all in. only use the hands that are 51% to 100% ahead you should come out with an average ahead of about 70% compare this to what you actually win at
There's software that can do this and it will very clearly show you that you're a lying liar that lies and/or don't understand math.

Stop living in your delusions and crack the case of the rigged poker sites already with proof. We'd all love to see it.
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05-10-2010 , 02:11 AM
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Originally Posted by batair
Man it seems like the realdeal shills are out in force.




Come on you cant trust those programs their in on the whole scheme, a spreadsheet is the only way to go.
A spreadsheet allows you to look at the results in different ways
Preflop all in
Postflop all in
Turn all in
River all in
All in from 50% to 60% etc
Look at 100 hand groups 10 hand 20 hand
Color coordinate you can see in a glance
Pacific hand groups like AA KK QQ JJ 1010 AK AQ AJ A10 KQ [this group is very interesting to look at]
There is no way my spreadsheet on my computer can be manipulated by the poker industry.
Compared to a spreadsheet poker tracker is rubbish
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05-10-2010 , 02:35 AM
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Originally Posted by NFuego20
There's software that can do this and it will very clearly show you that you're a lying liar that lies and/or don't understand math.

Stop living in your delusions and crack the case of the rigged poker sites already with proof. We'd all love to see it.
Poker Stars has the information they can post it
Whatever I post will be flamed by the PIG [poker industry generated] posts
If Poker Stars provides the evidence then the PIG,s will have no choice but to except it
I played a particular type of sit and go for no other reason but to obtain the evidence is poker rigged or not. My evidence clearly shows the games I played were fixed.
I demand Poker Stars post my all in hands on this site so all can see
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05-10-2010 , 02:36 AM
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Originally Posted by sewhog
A spreadsheet allows you to look at the results in different ways
Preflop all in
Postflop all in
Turn all in
River all in
All in from 50% to 60% etc
Look at 100 hand groups 10 hand 20 hand
Color coordinate you can see in a glance
Pacific hand groups like AA KK QQ JJ 1010 AK AQ AJ A10 KQ [this group is very interesting to look at]
There is no way my spreadsheet on my computer can be manipulated by the poker industry.
Compared to a spreadsheet poker tracker is rubbish
Well, there's no doubt that it's much easier to make stuff up with spreadsheets.

Perhaps you could generate a spreadsheet WITH pokertracker and then add your own testing to it? Or would that not work because pokertracker already hid the truth?
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05-10-2010 , 02:37 AM
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Originally Posted by sewhog
Poker Stars has the information they can post it
Whatever I post will be flamed by the PIG [poker industry generated] posts
If Poker Stars provides the evidence then the PIG,s will have no choice but to except it
I played a particular type of sit and go for no other reason but to obtain the evidence is poker rigged or not. My evidence clearly shows the games I played were fixed.
I demand Poker Stars post my all in hands on this site so all can see
ooh I see what you did there, pretty slick!

I don't think I "except" your bullcrap though.
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05-10-2010 , 03:57 AM
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Originally Posted by NFuego20
ooh I see what you did there, pretty slick!

I don't think I "except" your bullcrap though.
You keep on asking the same thing proof and I keep on telling you the same thing Poker Stars has it.
I haven’t even post my spreadsheet yet and you are saying it is made up.bullcrap. Cherry picking. Lies. Etc. it is very clear to me you will not accept any proof in any shape or form that I produce. The only evidence you will accept is from Poker Stars.
.

I demand Poker Stars post my all in hands on this site so all can see especially NFuego20.
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