I can think of thousands of things. I will start with one

Personally:
Feb-April 2010 - Stars O8/b(limit), cash games $1/2 up to $15/30. How many 3(or less) outers river-scoop a pot after 28(or more) small bets are in the pot before the river.

How many of these(losers) happen to players who are playing a higher limit than their last 10,000 hands.

(Also more specifically, but not possible via HH's, so ignore this portion, rather than cry foul:
- curious as to how many of these winners are players with accounts that have less than 20000 total hands
- how many of these losers happen to players more than 50% past the VPP's needed to get a "stellar reward".)

Thanks Spade, let me know where I can view the results of the tests.

Great minds think alike.

There's no way out of here, when you come in you're in for good
There was no promise made, the part you've played, the chance you took
There are no boundaries set, the time and yet you waste it still

I think we're only doing billy joel.

I have been thinking, though, the only way to improve this thread is if we bantered only in song lyrics.

Evidently not.

You're right! My argument had no basis and was obviously false. The proof was right before my eyes and I refused to see it.




I wonder how many times that'll get quoted?

It would help (you) if you could distinguish between an argument and an arbitrary statement of fact.

Be fair.

He immediately realised his mistake.

Glad to see you are being serious. You really are a troll, aren't you?

Heh, I almost made the same post myself. No idea what he's doing here anymore. Gets all serious for a few posts, and then that one. Sigh.

OK, what did I do now?

Read my very first post at this forum if you think I jest.

Thanks!
I like this new guy, he seems OK.

Welcome to 2+2. Just be careful not to step in any qpw in this thread(it's everywhere and it stinks).

This thread is a different experience than the rest at 2+2, if you hadn't figured that out yet.

Welcome again and good luck at the tables!

The only thing different between this thread and elsewhere on 2p2 is that in this thread, there are people with wrong thinking who continue to believe their falsehoods and flawed understanding.

Obviously discussion on 2p2 is pretty 'robust' right across the forum. All that is unusual about this thread is the nutty logic of the rigtards who refuse to provide any evidence to support their false beliefs.

Elsewhere on 2p2, self-criticism is common, but here, the rigtards blame a mysterious massive international conspiracy for their failure to win at online poker.

So you believe QPW is gone from 2+2, Josem?

Not me, I just wonder if pokerstars is rigged. My tourney record is good, but weird things happen in the live games at stars over the last year or so. Hard to believe you think this is an unfair question.

Careful, lest you step in some QPW(it stinks).

This has probably been mentioned on one of the 1362 pages so far but...

I don't see how a site would benefit from "rigging" the outcome of a hand. They get the same rake if it's a ring game and they get a fee for the tourney and have no real vested interest in the outcome of the tourney. Unless it's favoring players who are employees of the site, then it would be bad for business in the long run as it would cause the site to lose customers (rake+tourney fees) if the site's integrity is seriously called in to question too often.

so you creat a new account to post this?

I can't see why a good site would want to rig itself, either. They are making billions, why risk it?

Greed does funny things, though. We should definately keep our minds open(it would be close-mided not to).
Employee "super-using" is possible. Rigging into site-created accounts is possible and could produce billions. There is alot of money to be made from fixing a site, to many different parties.....for the site itself, it doesn't seem worth the risk, I agree.

Of course, I have read that sites pay people to control the discussion in this thread, for fear that "rigged site" gossip will hurt their business. Talk about the ultimate backfire!

But a profitable site risking it all for a few extra bucks is just plain stupid, and I can't see why a major site would do it.

Welcome to 2+2, BTW!

this thread is a sinker, useless IMO
the non-riggist has successfully making it impossible.
what non-riggist often use attacking riggist is unfair at best.
#1. proof it!
reality: knowing there is no software, at best you can only do a limited number of hands manually.
so follow by
#2 sample size.
reality:
a) it's impossible to do billions of hand manually
b) they know that to date, there is nobody in this world that played over 1 billion hand.
i'm not saying it's rigged or not rigged
but i have my doubt, and want software to check this.

I couldn't have put it better myself.

Oh, wait, yes I could.

Anyway, you're wrong, it's perfectly fair.

When anyone accuses another of wrong doing or possible wrong doing the first question, in any sphere of activity, is: "What evidence do you have?"

Do you know what a non sequitur is?

Do you know what a tone is?
A context?
A dialogue?
Irony?

False. Some things are self evident.

Yes.

Of course, none of these things have anything to do with your bizarre non sequiturs.

A suppose it's something you got from "The Boy's Own Book of Lame Trolling Techniques".

ROFLMAO.

The second sentence is correct which perfectly demonstrates why the first is, self evidently, wrong.

Clue: Look up etymology and try and understand it.