I beat it, but Im human, so I like to think.

BTW the term riggie is offensive

I understand "rigtard" being perceived as offensive, but now "riggie" is too ???

Sorry.

There's no way anyone would want to offend a rigtard.

I dont like when someone makes assumptions about me that are incorrect.

I never said that the game IS rigged. I pretty much think that it is probably not rigged, but I like to think about this possibility, I like to think, when you call me riggie you are basically saying that I believe the game is rigged, and thats not true.

Thats an agressive position that keeps us away from the free thinking.

A riggie (nee rigtard) isn't really someone who is just looking into the question of whether online poker is rigged. That's fair enough. A riggie is someone who comes on here and starts asserting that its rigged despite having no reliable evidence and accusing anyone who thinks proof is necessary to be shills.

Sometimes, admittedly, the lines get blurred and its hard to tell posters apart.

Nuh-uh

I thought that a riggie was someone who had concerns about rigging. You would seem to qualify for that epithet.

You also seem to be what someone referred to as a 'rigtard fellow traveller' in that any post you make seems to be very sympathetic to the rigtard agenda.

Here again you are aligning yourself with the rigtards in that you do not make any logical case for rigging or taking the threat of rigging more seriously. You just complain about your opponents in the debate. It's really nothing more than a cloaked ad-hominem.

If you have any evidence, or any logical argument why the stance of any of the 'shills' is incorrect, by all means post it and I'm certain that you'll get a polite, logical, response.

Is that rigtard for 'I agree'?

Not true.

Are you new to this thread?

I got my decipher key at McDonalds.. and this still doesn't make any sense! Has anyone decoded this post yet?

I understand it.
Seems clear as day to me.
People are paid to make these attacks.

Stick with shwag pinners, you can't handle the good stuff.

I think I may spot the muddy paw marks of Google translator.

It's unlikely that a person would have such a poor understanding of English structure at the same time as having such a respectable vocabulary.

So who is paying people to keep replying to the riggies and rigtards therefore keeping the rigged thread almost constantly near the top of the front page of this forum?

Do you really think that's a good business plan for a poker site?

And why do you think, if the behaviour of the 'shills' is so out of order, that the 2+2 moderators do not do something about it?

And if your answer to that is that they are being paid by the poker sites, why not go the whole hog and just get rid of rigged threads altogether?

English -> Macedonian -> Welsh -> English = Just as much gibberish.

1) This thread would stay at the top whether "shills" were here or not. Riggies alone would keep it there. "Shills" just control what it at the top of the thread.

2) This thread is more loosely moderated than others, I assume. Why else would they allow the behavior we all know has went on here. Maybe 2+2 isn't perfect. Maybe no one complained. Ask the moderator why he/she allowed the incessant insults.

You write well, but your complete lack of cohesive insight, logic and imagination make me wonder....how can someone so smart fail to see all this.
Answer: It's your job to fail to see all this...and make failing to see this logical.

I think the 'shill project' will backfire, though it went on for some time. It arouses suspicion more than anything else. I never would came here if QPW hadn't sought me out in another thread as soon as the word "rigged" came out of my keyboard.
You could try "shut up guys, there's nothing we can do about it anyways, and talking about it is bad for poker."
But I expect more subtlety. Insideous maybe, as you and said cohorts were, but less obtuse.

So you think there would be a 20,000 post thread just made up of people agreeing with each other that on line poker might be rigged and credulously swapping incredulous stories about their latest bad beat.

I think you're right in that the thread is loosely moderated. It is a containment thread after all. And insults are allowed on both sides. The riggies call their opponents shills and the opponents occasionally retaliate.

Let's just stop there.

Can you back up that allegation that I have a 'lack of cohesive insight, logic and imagination'?

You see this is typical of rigtard behaviour. You are not presenting evidence or logical argument, you are just presenting an ad-hominem. My responses to you consist of logical arguments whereas your responses are usually just unsupported statements your opponents are deficient in various ways.

Well, there is no way I can disprove that.

And, if you are correct, we have two possibilities:

1) That I am paid and my logic is correct - in which case whether I'm paid or not is irrelevant. The correct logic has been presented either way.

2) That I am paid and my logic is faulty and obscuring genuine complaints. In that case it is your job to point out the faults in my logic so that the scales will drop from the eyes of others and they will, at last, see what you wish them to see and what has been obvious to you all along.

Just repeating accusations of shillery ad infinitum will not get you anywhere.

I suspect it only arouses suspicion amongst those who need to believe that on line poker is rigged and do not have the intellectual capacity to prove their case.

If that's true, thanks for nothing, QPW.

Like presenting clear facts and logical arguments?

And yet, when you get those you just complain all the more.

BS, sometimes I wonder about you. Well at least for the 10 or 20 minutes while I'm t rollin this thread.. and you know what? That last post [#20168] has made me finally want to put you on ignore. Would you like to know why? All you do is moan! Not even bitch.. just moan. You moan too much. Often saying the same things over and over. As if THIS time someone might agree with you or just go along with what you're saying (hop on your side for a change).

You see, if this were the real world, and all of us who ever visited this thread and posted in it, were gathered in a small convention hall, I can almost guarantee most "people who think online poker is rigged" (I'm being polite) would not have the courage to walk into that room.. let alone go in and say half of the BS they've only had the balls to write here itt.

Just sayin.


(And I'm not putting you on ignore because I'm too lazy to do that right now)


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LOL. Here is an example of some of BS's immortal prose that has had a couple of return trips through the translator.

Seems to make as much sense as his usual posts - perhaps even a little more?

What is there to wonder about? BS contributes nothing of substance. His posts are all calculated to create a reaction in the reader, whether "shill" or "riggie". He is the epitome of a troll.

Actually, I thought Monteroy held the top spot.

Monteroy has contributed some very detailed substantive posts ITT, go back and check if you don't believe me (and no, I'm not saying they were all substantive, so please don't cherry pick some non-substantive ones to quote).

The thread needs cliffs, and I hope Monteroy and BSenseless will both write a version.

Some people say the online poker's rigged.

Others ask if they have any evidence.

It turns out they don't.


Rinse and repeat.