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04-05-2010 , 02:14 AM
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Originally Posted by smithcommajohn
You don't have to deal with any of the so-called idiots, you choose to. Why? God only knows. Maybe it makes you feel better about losing at online poker (which you confessed to awhile back).

I confessed it because it's true. At least I don't lie like all you whiny mother****ers. Takes a man to admit when he's not right or when he's not good at something. But you pussies.. NEVER. You guys just lie to yourselves and to others.
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04-05-2010 , 02:15 AM
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Originally Posted by pooflinger
well fact remains 28 all ins pre flop ahead 21 of the 28 lost 27 straight won on number 28 that should sound alarms offf
Prove it.
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04-05-2010 , 02:17 AM
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Originally Posted by pooflinger
there should be a thread for only people that think its rigged these shills just derail any evidence and are keeping people off track to solving the biggest scam of the century
Online poker = biggest scam of this century

Right! As if it would be, even if you're right. Which I doubt.
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04-05-2010 , 02:17 AM
you are a shill i dont wanna give you any help to hiding the scam .
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04-05-2010 , 02:24 AM
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Originally Posted by pooflinger
you are a shill i dont wanna give you any help to hiding the scam .
Would you like to bet on whether I'm a shill or not? I'm thinking humiliation stunt and not money. Name your "price"?
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04-05-2010 , 02:27 AM
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Originally Posted by LVGambler
Conspiracy was a bad word. I meant your "story" about predicting cards to come (or outcomes of hands). This is impossible and you're not being smart if you actually think you can do this with any certainty.

And as far as scared money goes, it's when you put money in and you think you're going to lose. Or, just thinking you're going to lose in general. It's not a very good mentality to have in poker.
Scared money has nothing to do with putting your money in thinking you'll lose. It has everything to do with altering your playing style away from optimal because you're scared to lose your money. Normally this involves excessive folding and/or passivity.

I agree that thinking you're going to lose is not a good mentality for poker. I certainly don't normally go into a tournament thinking I will lose (although I have done so before during a long losing streak). I'm talking about a gut feeling that my tournament life is going to end, that's all.
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04-05-2010 , 02:28 AM
shill or not dosent matter this thread is full of them im not handing over my smoking gun over untill the time is right
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04-05-2010 , 02:33 AM
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Originally Posted by smithcommajohn
Scared money has nothing to do with putting your money in thinking you'll lose.
No, that's exactly it! Has nothing to do with "altering your playing style away from optimal because you're scared to lose your money". You can play perfectly and still be playing with scared money.



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Originally Posted by pooflinger
shill or not dosent matter this thread is full of them im not handing over my smoking gun over untill the time is right
You just keep that smoking gun to yourself. Or pull it out, play with it, and then put it back. Nobody wants to see your "little pistol"

Last edited by LVGambler; 04-05-2010 at 02:45 AM.
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04-05-2010 , 02:33 AM
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Originally Posted by pooflinger
shill or not dosent matter this thread is full of them im not handing over my smoking gun over untill the time is right
If you have the smoking gun proving that it is rigged(and more importantly rigged against you) why do you still play?
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04-05-2010 , 02:39 AM
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Originally Posted by ILikeBeer
If you have the smoking gun proving that it is rigged(and more importantly rigged against you) why do you still play?
He has a brain that doesn't work properly. Severe head injury at some point in his life would be my guess based on the level of his posts. Sad situation.
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04-05-2010 , 02:39 AM
I am currently playing micros collecting data.

notice i was fliping out a a few post ago , has nothing to do with the money because the money was peanuts .
Its the fact how much there shoving the rigg in my face like to say what you goona do about it
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04-05-2010 , 02:43 AM
this thread is like 1 big joke right? why is it so long?
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04-05-2010 , 02:43 AM
I think you have a head injury you evil shill
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04-05-2010 , 02:46 AM
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Originally Posted by LVGambler
I confessed it because it's true. At least I don't lie like all you whiny mother****ers. Takes a man to admit when he's not right or when he's not good at something. But you pussies.. NEVER. You guys just lie to yourselves and to others.
If you take the time to examine the exact person you are addressing, you will see that I am far from someone who is afraid to admit a mistake or error. I am probably one of only a select few who do, in fact.

I apologize for mentioning your online track record, but I do often wonder why you're in this thread at all if not just to attack people.

Believe it or not it takes courage to post the things I do because they are oft met with hostility and rude remarks ITT. If you want to discuss the topic, I invite it. If you want to just insult me, why bother to type the words? I just don't get it.
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04-05-2010 , 02:46 AM
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Originally Posted by pooflinger
I am currently playing micros collecting data.

notice i was fliping out a a few post ago , has nothing to do with the money because the money was peanuts .
Its the fact how much there shoving the rigg in my face like to say what you goona do about it
[sarcasm] Nope, not paranoia at all. [/sarcasm]
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04-05-2010 , 02:48 AM
if you dont agree will shills they call you names .

thats why i always have a middle finger for them all
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04-05-2010 , 02:54 AM
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Originally Posted by LVGambler
No, that's exactly it! Has nothing to do with "altering your playing style away from optimal because you're scared to lose your money". You can play perfectly and still be playing with scared money.
http://www.holdemtight.com/pgs/dc/Dic/-s-.htm
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A player too afraid of losing to exploit good hands is playing with scared money.
http://dictionary.pokerzone.com/Scared+Money
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A player who is so nervous about losing that the player's decision-making is negatively impacted.
http://www.pokergamingsites.com/poker-terms.html
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Money that is being played timidly because it is all a player has left.
Edit: Now are you the type that can admit you're wrong?
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04-05-2010 , 02:55 AM
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Originally Posted by smithcommajohn
If you take the time to examine the exact person you are addressing, you will see that I am far from someone who is afraid to admit a mistake or error. I am probably one of only a select few who do, in fact.

I apologize for mentioning your online track record, but I do often wonder why you're in this thread at all if not just to attack people.

Believe it or not it takes courage to post the things I do because they are oft met with hostility and rude remarks ITT. If you want to discuss the topic, I invite it. If you want to just insult me, why bother to type the words? I just don't get it.
It's kinda true what you say. I do not play online poker (to make money at it). I am in here pretty much just to insult people. I mean, I can't add much else, right? Why do I come in here? I post itt because to me you people who like to throw around myths and speculations like they're the truth should be ridiculed. You're trying to bash an entity that has little or nothing to do with your losing money at the tables. But, since you do lose, you choose to blame everyone and everything. But do you ever blame yourself? Do you ever stop to think that maybe the reason you lose is because you're not the [great] player you think you are??

Yes, I lose when I play online. Why? Because I'm not good enough to play at the levels that keep my interest. Sure, I could probably beat the micros, if I don't mind grinding pennies while staring at a heads up display.
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04-05-2010 , 03:00 AM
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Originally Posted by smithcommajohn

You do realize that scared money is not a poker term? It is a gambling term. It doesn't really relate to a strategy at all. And I'd be willing to bet that I have far more experience in gaming than you do. Just a guess though.

And no, I'm not wrong. You are smith.



** This is a better, more accurate, definition:

Noun

Chips or money that a player does not wish to wager but that is still part of the player's bankroll; chips or money that a player is especially nervous about the prospect of losing.

ADDITIONAL INFORMATION: A player may have scared money either because that person is playing higher stakes than typical or because the player has been on a losing streak to the point of having only a small bankroll remaining.

EXAMPLE: "My opponent was playing with scared money."

APPLIES TO: Online and Land-based Venues

- http://dictionary.pokerzone.com/Scared+Money


Definition of Scared Money

Dear xx, my name is xx from xx in xx. I'm a newbie en masse, and i have a question to you regarding something i couldn't grasp: what does Scared Money mean?
xx Answers:
Money a player cannot afford to lose. Slang. Is a term that is of primary significance, xx. Scared Money is Money a player cannot afford to lose. Slang.

Last edited by LVGambler; 04-05-2010 at 03:05 AM.
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04-05-2010 , 03:19 AM
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Originally Posted by LVGambler
You do realize that scared money is not a poker term? It is a gambling term. It doesn't really relate to a strategy at all. And I'd be willing to bet that I have far more experience in gaming than you do. Just a guess though.

And no, I'm not wrong. You are smith.



** This is a better, more accurate, definition:

Noun

Chips or money that a player does not wish to wager but that is still part of the player's bankroll; chips or money that a player is especially nervous about the prospect of losing.

ADDITIONAL INFORMATION: A player may have scared money either because that person is playing higher stakes than typical or because the player has been on a losing streak to the point of having only a small bankroll remaining.

EXAMPLE: "My opponent was playing with scared money."

APPLIES TO: Online and Land-based Venues

- http://dictionary.pokerzone.com/Scared+Money


Definition of Scared Money

Dear xx, my name is xx from xx in xx. I'm a newbie en masse, and i have a question to you regarding something i couldn't grasp: what does Scared Money mean?
xx Answers:
Money a player cannot afford to lose. Slang. Is a term that is of primary significance, xx. Scared Money is Money a player cannot afford to lose. Slang.
So by mentioning an alternate meaning that has nothing to do with your original definition, your attack on my definition (that is backed by multiple sources, mind you), is valid?

Where in that definition you provided (from one of my links, btw) do you see anything with regards to the player playing perfect poker but thinking they will lose?
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04-05-2010 , 03:28 AM
PikachuDemolisher, you are a total waste of space.

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Originally Posted by PikachuDemolisher
Not as cool as you taking credit for the UB fiasco falling in your lap.
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04-05-2010 , 03:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Arouet
WTF you've got an honest to goodness guy who helped expose a major cheating scandal and you're ****ting on HIM????? Why? Just because he doesn't go along with every paranoid delusion you riggies want to throw at him? Because he's actually explained what you would need to do to actually figure out if something is amiss with the RNG?

You riggies are something else. If more of you modeled your analytical skills on Josem's you'd be in a far better place vis-a-vis this question.
He is our Judas/Anakin Skywalker. He has seen the truth and refuses to join us.
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04-05-2010 , 03:30 AM
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Originally Posted by LVGambler
I bet that if Josem told Demonpolisher he could activate the non-doomswitch on his acct [which we know doesn't exist]
What?

WHAT?

Do you mean I'm paying those subscriptions to keep my doomswitch turned off for Noting?

That's 0.5% of my shilling fees every month down the drain.
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04-05-2010 , 03:34 AM
You're taking what I said out of context [how surprising]. Scared money I guess is just more obvious to me than it is to you. It's scared money not scared strategy.

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Originally Posted by smithcommajohn
Scared money has nothing to do with putting your money in thinking you'll lose. It has everything to do with altering your playing style away from optimal because you're scared to lose your money. Normally this involves excessive folding and/or passivity.

I agree that thinking you're going to lose is not a good mentality for poker. I certainly don't normally go into a tournament thinking I will lose (although I have done so before during a long losing streak). I'm talking about a gut feeling that my tournament life is going to end, that's all.
You implied that scared money had something to do with strategy. I said it did not. I also said, originally, that if you play thinking that you're going to lose, you're playing with scared money. If you're not playing with scared money then you're not. But why else would you be thinking negatively by predicting when you're going to lose? Why not try and predict when you're going to win or suck out on someone?
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04-05-2010 , 03:38 AM
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Originally Posted by qpw
What?

WHAT?

Do you mean I'm paying those subscriptions to keep my doomswitch turned off for Noting?

That's 0.5% of my shilling fees every month down the drain.

Paying those subscriptions is better than what the end of my post said
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