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Originally Posted by Username^^
I have said to you that there wont be mathematical evidence ever that one or other poker sites rng is not random, becouse there are to much money invoulved into this, and if you are doing a billon dollar worth scam you will make sure that it goes right and wont be detected by some online poker addicts. As i said, my stats all are good. No evidence there. But there are just to many ways to **** you up in this game.
I will accept that there are ways that deals could be rigged which are subtle enough to be very unlikely to be detected by players collaborating on reviewing hand histories. However, even those manipulations would show up in a large sample that includes millions of hand histories with all hole cards, such as the one Poker Stars recently gave to Cigital. And many types of trickery would also show up in the databases that track player stats, like HSDB or PTR, even though they don't have all hole cards.
The people who have those large databases could do whatever evaluations they wanted to, and it would take very skillful and subtle manipulation to not show up in databases of that size. Poker sites making bucketfuls of money running an honest business would be pretty stupid to do something that is bound to be eventually detected and kill their golden goose. But just as importantly, I don't accept that any site could keep such manipulation a secret for years. Too many people would have to have knowledge of it, and as far as I know present and former poker site employees haven't been suffering mysterious accidental deaths. When I start seeing that in the news, I'll get suspicious.
Edit - and regardless of what people say about the regulatory agencies, I believe the jurisdictions regulating the larger sites actually do their job of making sure the game is fair. See this post:
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28...t=#post9773771
Last edited by spadebidder; 04-07-2009 at 07:16 PM.