I think I spoke of myself about not being good at self editing but am learning some lessons here . I am not so arrogant to try to make myself look any wiser than you . You would probably be a good editor but if you wrote a book but noone would read it . Your every condesending post I have seen makes you exactly what I see you as too . A person with skills that would make a very poor teacher . An interferer in progess to the point that you can keep control . Find some reason that garners respect and maybe say something about yourself or offers some additional insight to this discussion , maybe even the unheard of compliment . You just jump on the bandwagon when the opportunity exists . You may have more in common with others than you think if you dared try to accept others as well . I do have some weaknesses too . I will work to improve my writing and punctuation as well as my poker game too . I appreciate your help in pointing out what I need to do to gain more respect too .

I'm on an incredible internet downswing that doesnt seem like "VARIANCE" to me right now...

I've lost about 50 hands in a row that were over 75% favorites, and many of them were 90% favorites on the river...

Also, everytime I'm in a SNG and I pick up a strong hand like a TT or JJ, im up against QQ-AA...

And when I shove AQ, I get called by AK..

And when I flop a set, im up against another set..

The nightmare is just not ending, and the weird thing is that a lot of these things happen on the bubble when there are only 5 players in the hand..

Whats the odds of a 5 handed situation, where I shove a AT, and the other players have QQ and KK?

Im not saying its rigged, but this doesnt feel like normal variance, it feels like someone pulled the doomswitch on me and I cant win anymore no matter what I do...

Am I paranoid?

Is there a way to end this debate once and for all, by people keeping statistics played over 1,000,000,000 hands, to see if this is variance or not?

I'm not figuring out the odds of a 5 handed table where one player has AT another has KK and another has QQ, but I can tell you it's pretty close to the odds of everyone at the table being dealt specific junk cards as well.

Are you being paranoid? Yep. Everyone hits a doom switch once in a while. Just take some time off and get focused on your game and get back in there.

Is there a way to end this debate once and for all? Yes but it's not how you suggest. Any "proof" will be disregarded as shill lies unless it is actually proven that the sites are rigged. Then the rational people and the irrational will come together in perfect harmony.

People have run statistical analysis over huge sample sizes and determined it's not rigged. You can either trust them or decide they're liars. It's up to you.

However, if you post the last 50 hands in a row that you played and you're a 75% favorite in all of them then I'm guessing you'll get some doomswitch sympathy.

Also, this is impossible.

Seriously, if there was a stretch of 50 hands in a row where you're all in on the flop or something and you really are even a 51% favorite and lost them all, this would be a very seriously unlikely occurrence to the point where rigging would be likely.

Of course, when people say things like that, they're never correct. Anecdotal stories like this don't hold up, because they're not true. If things like that were really happening, somebody would have shown it by now. Seriously take 1/2 to the 50th power and see how big the denominator gets. Then ask yourself why your brain is ignoring what's really happening.

If I posted the last 500 hands from my hand histories, it would probably annoy people... Do you want me to do it?

Can you go through them, locate all the all ins and equities of each of them, and then tally up the real stats?

If it is what you state they are, then yes, hand histories would be the next step. But do the work first.

Simple template:

All in hand, opponent hand, board texture when all in, % chance of winning, and then a column for win/loss. Find the last 100 all ins or so and see where it comes out. You'll probably find a lot of things you forgot about.

Actually there's software that does this I'm sure, but if you don't have it then yeah it can be done manually.

Well there were many hands in this sample where I was also behind, so its not purely 50 bad beats in a row, you're correct...

but what bothers me is that I'm shoving AJ and KT in a 4 handed game and being up against a monster in each of these scenarios, like AA... that also seems like a "bad beat" even though technically it isnt..

I dont really have any proof nor do I firmly believe that internet poker is rigged..

But Im just getting a little suspicious, if you know what I mean...

Suspicion will hurt your game because instead of looking for things you are doing wrong you will blame the cards.

Do you use Poker Tracker or Holdem Manager?

It's obviously rigged.
You really think that almost 4 in 10 dedicated internet poker players would think it's rigged if there is nothing fishy going on?
I've said it before and I'll say it again.
A random site is a terrible business model.

So you think that 4 out of 10 internet poker players think it is rigged AND they continue to play online? Geniuses.

And you'll be wrong over and over again because you're too lazy to do the work to really find out if something is rigged. All you do is make noise.

I understand how it feels to go through a downswing. There are times it seems literally impossible to win and there are times that the game seems to come easy. But most of this is paranoia. If it will make you feel better, then you probably need to be specific about what you think is going against you more than it statistically should. Something testable. It's very possible that in recent hands you are running below expectation in some way. Show that. Then, be sure to test your future hands for that same thing as well. If something is really wrong, it should continue to happen at an unusual rate.

I just won a MTT, so maybe its not rigged

HAHAHAHHHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You rigshilltards always say this. How do you know they are still playing? Does posting on a forum equate into MUST also be playing?

Because then they wouldn't be internet poker players. They would be former internet poker players.

NICE! You identified the righ and then your brain adjusted and you beat it. Good work! How much did you score?

You should really read the posts before you type. He said 4 out of 10 dedicated internet poker players think it's rigged.

Full Tilt Poker $5 + $0.50 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t60/t120 Blinds - 3 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

Hero (BB): t1060 M = 5.89
BTN: t11880 M = 66
SB: t560 M = 3.11

Pre Flop: (t180) Hero is BB with A T
BTN raises to t360, 1 fold, Hero raises to t1060 all in, BTN calls t700

Flop: (t2180) 3 Q 3

Turn: (t2180) 4

River: (t2180) 3

Final Pot: t2180
Hero shows A T (three of a kind, Threes)
BTN shows A 3 (four of a kind, Threes)
BTN wins t2180

Full Tilt Poker $5 + $0.50 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t200/t400 Blinds - 2 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

Hero (BB): t10052 M = 16.75
BTN/SB: t3448 M = 5.75

Pre Flop: (t600) Hero is BB with K K
BTN/SB raises to t3448 all in, Hero calls t3048

Flop: (t6896) 6 5 A

Turn: (t6896) 4

River: (t6896) 3

Final Pot: t6896
Hero shows K K (a pair of Kings)
BTN/SB shows K 2 (a straight, Six high)
BTN/SB wins t6896

Hey Lisa... this seems to be a good theme today...




If you're not looking for a ban I suggest you take that crap to BBV

is been brutal today I post hand of the day there.Sorry

Nothing wrong with that, but that's what BBV is for. Unless you somehow think those hands mean the game is rigged (which would of course make no sense) it's just clutter.

Really not much different than what BucketFoot brings to the table I guess, so maybe it won't get you banned. Still makes you a troll though.

lol I feel bad now lisa is getting flamed in BBV

dont play on full tilt

I don't know if username is a riggie or not, but he makes me chuckle.