The fact is: it may be. I mean no offence here but just using personal exerpience is often a terrible way of detecting patters, statistics, etc. If you downloaded your HHs and put them into a tracking software you might be very surprised by what you find. Then again, you might find that your perception was exactly what you thought. The only fair thing to say at this stage is that your gut tells you something is wrong. The only conclusion you can draw at this point is that further investigation may be warranted. But drawing any other conclusion at this point is simply not sound.

To put it into perspective: A live pro probably plays 2000 hrs/yr. of poker (50 weeks/yr @ 40 hours/week). At 30 hands/hr (which is on the high side), that is 60k hands/yr. Your average online grinder plays about 100k hands/month. Plus, online players have the ability to log and analyze every hand played.

So to sum up:

Things you don't know:

How often it has happens online
How often it has happens live
How often it should happen in both cases

Things you know:

It happens too often online compared to live

Do you see any problems with this?

FYP

I can agree this may not create more rake because it gets capped at some point . But isn't having a capped rake is always good ? Well anyway in comparison if were used it may be of more use in MTT setting to decrease the timeframe needed to complete a tourney . Certainly I am not saying it is but is never fun to lose a good hand .
Once in awhile just for kicks I take out a deck and deal a 6 man table of cards and just try to keep hole cards in play of the 6 that I may think would stay in the hand . Then I deal the flop , turn river just to see what hands develope . Some strange things occur when I do that too .
Just a thought .

I think most people would find this exercise eye-opening. Just deal all the cards face up and don't worry about who would fold or not, and then deal the board. Do it 200 times and you will see mind-boggling suckouts. It's a very educational 2 hours.

That's just the thing. You will see 7-2 flopped boats and quads and all kinds of other things. But the questions come when in real play when some guy magically played the 7-2 and got the boat from your pre flop raise with AA. If i was to code a rigged system, this is exactly the kind of thing you tap into. Of course AA isnt a magic hand like geting AJ in black jack is. Its not going to win every time. But if you can code a complex AI/NN type of app that taps into the psychology of things into then you are onto something.

As it stand though, after giving it some thought. The O razor of riggies unfortunately is the theory i like least, house bots or Juiced house users. I'd like to think that there is a more complex system in place but I agree that from a profitabilty POV there just isnt enough to go on. If however you have a truly random deal with house bot that know when things will happen in their favor...then everything falls into place, the stats, the winnings, et cetera. Maybe thats the dual roles of the shills here. Play as house players who get the signals to press, come in here and point to the stats, make 80k a year doing easy work. Id sign up for that.

I realize people have some inklings or superstitions of things happening but where you can't prove it that is all we have . I see some people think they have a favorite hand or even on TV where some player has a "Shark" as a good luck charm . I think even Doink the Clown plays poker .
I hate to admit but I hate the hands just before the break and even some right after it . Just seems so often they are big pots and more often disasterous at times .
Has anyone ever done a study of how many "3 or less out" cards fall after the flop to make hands ? I may not be explaining my thought real well on that question but is a general question . Maybe in comparison to the expected norm of cards that should fall .
Ok maybe that is far fetched but a thought and may be able to be explained better with some further thought . Just let me know what you think anyway for now .

LOL, do you ever read these after you write them? How does that make any sense at all to you?

I think you'd agree it would be much worse to have someone go bust in a big action hand where the rake is capped at $3 than it would be to have him play on for 20 more hands with a rake of $1 a hand.

And you don't need spaces before your punctuation marks, FWIW.

Well I was hoping you would not be that picky Bobo . It is just a habit I developed for another reason . I do some editing on certain parts of my text . I would not argue your point on rake potential you present .
Also I hate playing good cards against an All in peanut stacks most times too . They seem like a give away for me a lot of times but not always .

I wouldn't have brought it up on its own, but since I was replying to you anyway, I threw it in there.

s p a c i n g i s c o o l !

I didn't think you meant to make me seem like I didn't know although I did not get great grades in English class . You may be the only one who noticed and I give you credit for observation of that . It says something about you . Partly I developed that so that in a search situation it is not part of the word in the text and will be included in a search of that word when the puctuation is not attached to it . Your alright and did not want to throw that back at you for any negative reason either .

Thank God someone's mentioned it.

It makes a poster look like such a dork using weird non-standard punctuation that causes the text make your eyes bleed.

No he bloody well wasn't!

Because once the RANDOM deal is defined, if the house bot can see the hole cards and flops of other players, theyll know when "things will happen in their favor" you damn rigtard.

Those aren't periods, they are bullet points to make the prose more powerful. Pow! bang! bam! point after point!

Now that sounds truly English . Sorry I did not mean to exclude others . Was just trying to compliment and relieve some of my own feelings I had from seeing that pointed out . I posted about a person reading into what is said in forums and emails earlier . I am guilty of the same at times . I see things that look out of whack here too ..

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In that case, you probably should've mentioned that your house bots had superuser abilities as well.

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Thanks Josem, I am reading them now . I was not inferring anything but asked if capped rake was of any benefit to sites . I am not saying there is a method that get any site to that objective .

Oops in prior statement I said " That truly sounds english " . I was trying some humor , of course I did not "hear" that . Maybe it was another sense inffered there and seemed I did in my head . Oh how the cookie crumbles . lol

Don't quite know how to respond to this. Can someone help me out and tell me if that is an insult or a compliment coming from this guy?

I suspect name calling is always meant as a slight .