LOL had a "Deep Throat" flashback there..

This thread fulfills its function perfectly.

It's absolutely obvious what it's about (and even if you are too dense to realise from the title you only need one visit to ascertain it's content).

Thus people who have concerns have somewhere to post questions and get responses whilst the rest of the forum index is not cluttered up with dross (at least, not 'rigged' dross).

If you lock and flush you'll still have new (and possibly misleadingly titled) threads knocking around all the time.

Im offering a one time only buy out for my prop bet opponents. I'll take 8 to 1 on the bet, 16 to 1 for Josem.

Doc89 - $800
Nfuego - $400
Josem - $800

I guarentee I will not disclose publicly if youve accepted or not. Eveything will be 100% discreet.

disclaimer: in any case I leak out info that u accepted, I will offer twice the amount back as compensation.

I don't understand what you're saying? You want to buy out for $800? But your wager was only $50, wasn't it?

I am giving you the chance to buy out... Ship me $800 now and we're even

ALOT of stuff been going down lately that doesnt look good for online poker, hence the offer.

Offer experies at Midnight EST

Its in caps so it must be true. No need to post proof or anything.

I am amazed how basic math things get by you so easily. How can you not understand what he was saying????? Yet be one of the main proponents on this site for the statistics proof of non rigged sites... I think you fluked on the AP/UB thing.

It is rigged for sure. Take a look at this hand :

PokerStars Game #41515187901: Hold'em No Limit ($1/$2 USD) - 2010/03/21 20:27:45 ET
Table 'Pherkad' 6-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: Jaral ($213.60 in chips)
Seat 2: chophyunsuk ($200 in chips)
Seat 3: fakker11 ($345.80 in chips)
Seat 4: ledzep6028 ($237.75 in chips)
Seat 5: cashman62 ($203 in chips)
Seat 6: Bambillo* ($78.45 in chips)
ledzep6028: posts small blind $1
cashman62: posts big blind $2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to cashman62 [Kc Kh]
Bambillo*: folds
Jaral: folds
chophyunsuk: folds
fakker11: raises $3 to $5
ledzep6028: raises $11 to $16
cashman62: raises $11 to $27
fakker11: folds
ledzep6028: raises $41 to $68
cashman62: raises $135 to $203 and is all-in
ledzep6028: calls $135
*** FLOP *** [9h Ks As]
*** TURN *** [9h Ks As] [Jc]
*** RIVER *** [9h Ks As Jc] [Td]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
ledzep6028: shows [Qs Qd] (a straight, Ten to Ace)
cashman62: shows [Kc Kh] (three of a kind, Kings)
ledzep6028 collected $408 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $411 | Rake $3
Board [9h Ks As Jc Td]
Seat 1: Jaral folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: chophyunsuk folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: fakker11 (button) folded before Flop
Seat 4: ledzep6028 (small blind) showed [Qs Qd] and won ($408) with a straight, Ten to Ace
Seat 5: cashman62 (big blind) showed [Kc Kh] and lost with three of a kind, Kings
Seat 6: Bambillo* folded before Flop (didn't bet)

What are you even talking about?

I'm glad your posts have degenerated even more because it means you are that much closer to being banned (again). Maybe try to act with a little more maturity on your next gimmick.

Care to explain what you are talking about? What's the basic math you are referring to?

We have a prop bet. I am offering them the chance to buy out at 8 to 1 instead of the 25 to 1 the bet is for. The offer ends at midnight EST. 3 mroe hrs to decide, I wont be offering 8 to 1 again.

Usually people offer horrible buy out odds like that when one side seems to be a clear favorite to win. That definitely isn't the case for your side. But you seem like a special fellow so I'm sure it makes sense in some weird way to you.

lol, the chance to buy out?

How about this. Since you're so sure of yourself I'm giving you the chance to increase your action. So far you've put up 50 at 25 to 1. I'll take another 200 of your action at the same odds if you want.

ill do $50 at 100 to 1 with no time frame

k, unignored to negotiate....

So let's see. You think you're on the verge of winning the bet. You offer an 8 to 1 buy out. The person you're betting with counters and offers you MORE action at 25 to 1.

Your response is to offer worse odds and timeframe than what you initially offered?

Confirmed you're out of your damn mind.

Back to ignore. If you want more action using the same odds as before, just say the word. I'm sure somebody in this thread will notify me. Until then, I'm not wasting another second reading your bs.

fyp.

It makes no sense to allow me to buy out of the bet when I'm such an incredibly hot favourite here. That's why I thought it was weird and didn't make sense.

wtf, no.

I'll offer a counter offer to enable you to 'buyout' - I'll take the $50 that you sent to me and donate it the Australian Wildlife Conservancy (http://www.awc.org.au/) and we'll call the bet off.

That way, I'll get a tax deduction, and you get the benefit of knowing that you've indirectly made a contribution to protecting cute and furry animals.

You also can have the pleasure of knowing that your money isn't still held by me. This offer isn't time limited to today: you're welcome to ask for this at anytime in the next five years. I'd be happy with you agreeing to the implication of this that PokerStars' random shuffle is legitimate.

So he can claim that on day 364 of the 4th year?

I havent won a buyin in last 3 days baraince cant be this bad and isnt

yeah thats the grey area. No one can define a true test of variance so as time goes by and people's samples get larger, so does variance.

You're not really losing. Its selective memory, that has been proven using MATHS. Youre really winning. Go buy a fur coat.

If I may quote a classic:

Mr. AMEC, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone is now dumber for having read it.