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03-04-2010 , 09:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Arouet
I see your dental surgery and raise you one car accident!
Except insurance pays for cars, and dental insurance pays $1500/year which didn't even cover 1 tooth. I was in the chair for 4.5 hours yesterday. I won't go over all the stuff they did to give me a rockin' new grill, but it was $10K. So I can jump some riggies for amusement until I get over it.
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03-04-2010 , 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Arouet
I see your dental surgery and raise you one car accident!
Im all in with a 3 story roof fall
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03-04-2010 , 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by spadebidder
I had dental surgery yesterday and so I alternate between irritable pain and percocet-induced don't-give-a-sht.

It's liberating.
lmao
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03-04-2010 , 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by spadebidder
Except insurance pays for cars, and dental insurance pays $1500/year which didn't even cover 1 tooth. I was in the chair for 4.5 hours yesterday. I won't go over all the stuff they did to give me a rockin' new grill, but it was $10K. So I can jump some riggies for amusement until I get over it.
Ok, you win.
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03-04-2010 , 09:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Monteroy
Regarding that guy and his dramatic Party freeroll experience:


Next time, learn to complain in a manner that will earn you some sympathy and respect regardless of how trivial your plight is (in this case extremely trivial).

I have no doubt if you called and spoke to a manager and politely pointed out how much time and effort you spent waiting and preparing to play in your 5 cent freeroll they would give you $10 as a goodwill gesture or an entry in some other tournament, because your complaint is truly insignificant but if genuine then they will be nice about it.

As is, you are choosing the laughable role of "alerting the media" about something nobody will care about, so while you are a hero in your own mind, that is as far as it goes, and you have nothing to show for it. Again, -EV move.


I just want to point out how refreshing it is to play good cop/bad cop with riggies and actually be the relatively good cop for a change with spade somehow being the bad cop!!!

The dark side of shilldom is a powerful force...

All the best.
You are missing the point somewhat, I am not grovelling over a couple of dollars, the point is that they were willing to pocket that freeroll prize fund.
That says someting about them and it aint very nice.
Even if I had got my 2 dollars I still know they are willing to cheat players so I ain't willing to play there anyway, I don't like the sites attitude, it stinks.


Also you are wrong when you say nobody will care about it, some mugs might not but plenty of others will.



My +EV move is leaving the site. Never liked it anyway, it's tournement buy ins are a total rip-off, no surprise there though, it ties in with what I said before, if they are happy to ripi you off in one area you can be dammed sure they will do it in every area possible because it is in their nature, essential they see their business model as ripping people off and well I just don't like that very much.

I don't want money they have stole from other players either, I'd rather shoplift.
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03-04-2010 , 10:28 PM
That's a helluva scheme they have going on there for sure. They keep reneging on those freerolls they'll be rollin' in the money in no time. We must stop them.
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03-04-2010 , 10:33 PM
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Originally Posted by pen15
You are missing the point somewhat, (snip)
Whether or not party did something wrong there is not a proper subject for this thread (you've linked two threads where it is the proper topic). The only relevant issue here is whether you are justified in extrapolating from one event (not paying out on the freeroll) to other possible events (they would cheat in any way imaginable and therefore have cheated in every way imaginable.).
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03-04-2010 , 11:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Skokky
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03-04-2010 , 11:42 PM
the page explains why PokerStars is not rigged?
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03-04-2010 , 11:43 PM
spade how can you not see what pen is saying ? You are like talking to a tree
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03-05-2010 , 01:19 AM
Wow....

So I returned to Ultimate bet after over 6 months absense:

AA
AA
AQ
A10
AQ
JJ

How's that for a run of cards! I have never seen anything like it!! So refreshing after February's cooler at P-stars...maybe UB is trying to get me to stay? Truly wild. I have never had that kind of a run of cards before. AA twice in a row HAS happened but it has never been followed up with 5 very good cash game hands in a row. I mean, the table was starting to think I was on hyper tilt cause I was raising pre flop to 12$ SEVEN straight hands. In fact with one of the AA a guy with bottom pair (8 6) called me all the way through.

*KNOCK ON WOOD*
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03-05-2010 , 01:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Platitudipus
Wow....

So I returned to Ultimate bet after over 6 months absense:

AA
AA
AQ
A10
AQ
JJ

How's that for a run of cards! I have never seen anything like it!! So refreshing after February's cooler at P-stars...maybe UB is trying to get me to stay? Truly wild. I have never had that kind of a run of cards before. AA twice in a row HAS happened but it has never been followed up with 5 very good cash game hands in a row. I mean, the table was starting to think I was on hyper tilt cause I was raising pre flop to 12$ SEVEN straight hands. In fact with one of the AA a guy with bottom pair (8 6) called me all the way through.

*KNOCK ON WOOD*
cashout now and gtfo while ahead imo
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03-05-2010 , 01:52 AM
I was just thinking about something that I don't think has ever been brought up in this thread. I would guess that it would be a bit worrisome for a site to be cheating some of its more "darkside" customers. Could you imagine working for an online site and having to worry about some psycho wanting to take revenge in a very violent way for actually believing that they have been ripped off?

If I was an employee for online poker site, I am more worried about that than going to jail for being part of an international scandal. That to me along with some of the other more solid arguments completes the picture as to why a site should never ever think about ripping its customers off.

I have just been seeing so many crazy people coming out of the woodwork these last 10 years to do things that are so absolutely desperate. These are not times to be ripping people off or even looking like you are cheating people out of their money.

How about that guy who flew his plane into the IRS building recently. What was that guy thinking? This was over money and he really thought he was being cheated by the government. Those poor unsuspecting people working there. Pretty sad to see that...I don't want a job at a bank or a poker site or the IRS, not without a bullet proof vest, super high security and 20 foot thick steel reinforced walls, no way...
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03-05-2010 , 02:02 AM
lol wat
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03-05-2010 , 02:23 AM
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Originally Posted by DonkoTheClown
I was just thinking about something that I don't think has ever been brought up in this thread. I would guess that it would be a bit worrisome for a site to be cheating some of its more "darkside" customers. Could you imagine working for an online site and having to worry about some psycho wanting to take revenge in a very violent way for actually believing that they have been ripped off?

If I was an employee for online poker site, I am more worried about that than going to jail for being part of an international scandal. That to me along with some of the other more solid arguments completes the picture as to why a site should never ever think about ripping its customers off.

I have just been seeing so many crazy people coming out of the woodwork these last 10 years to do things that are so absolutely desperate. These are not times to be ripping people off or even looking like you are cheating people out of their money.

How about that guy who flew his plane into the IRS building recently. What was that guy thinking? This was over money and he really thought he was being cheated by the government. Those poor unsuspecting people working there. Pretty sad to see that...I don't want a job at a bank or a poker site or the IRS, not without a bullet proof vest, super high security and 20 foot thick steel reinforced walls, no way...
This was very creative. Indeed, more people need to smoke before posting. However, I was bit surprised that it turned out to be an anti-rigging point of view. I thought you were going to twist it that they rig the deal for the psychos as 'protection'.
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03-05-2010 , 03:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Mitch Evans
This was very creative. Indeed, more people need to smoke before posting. However, I was bit surprised that it turned out to be an anti-rigging point of view. I thought you were going to twist it that they rig the deal for the psychos as 'protection'.
LOL! Johnny Walker Black Label talking tonight...now I am ready to slip into a temporary coma...night night...

Last edited by DonkoTheClown; 03-05-2010 at 03:08 AM. Reason: Because I am drinking tonight Dammit!
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03-05-2010 , 03:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Josem
lol wat
Sincerely,

Johnny Walker Black
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03-05-2010 , 03:08 AM
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Originally Posted by DonkoTheClown
I was just thinking about something...

[snip]
Your mind is a terrifying place, Donko.
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03-05-2010 , 03:28 AM
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Originally Posted by DonkoTheClown
I was just thinking about something that I don't think has ever been brought up in this thread. I would guess that it would be a bit worrisome for a site to be cheating some of its more "darkside" customers. Could you imagine working for an online site and having to worry about some psycho wanting to take revenge in a very violent way for actually believing that they have been ripped off?

If I was an employee for online poker site, I am more worried about that than going to jail for being part of an international scandal. That to me along with some of the other more solid arguments completes the picture as to why a site should never ever think about ripping its customers off.

I have just been seeing so many crazy people coming out of the woodwork these last 10 years to do things that are so absolutely desperate. These are not times to be ripping people off or even looking like you are cheating people out of their money.

How about that guy who flew his plane into the IRS building recently. What was that guy thinking? This was over money and he really thought he was being cheated by the government. Those poor unsuspecting people working there. Pretty sad to see that...I don't want a job at a bank or a poker site or the IRS, not without a bullet proof vest, super high security and 20 foot thick steel reinforced walls, no way...
^^ Quality. That's more than the booze talking...
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03-05-2010 , 04:26 AM
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Originally Posted by DonkoTheClown
I was just thinking about something that I don't think has ever been brought up in this thread. I would guess that it would be a bit worrisome for a site to be cheating some of its more "darkside" customers. Could you imagine working for an online site and having to worry about some psycho wanting to take revenge in a very violent way for actually believing that they have been ripped off?

If I was an employee for online poker site, I am more worried about that than going to jail for being part of an international scandal. That to me along with some of the other more solid arguments completes the picture as to why a site should never ever think about ripping its customers off.

I have just been seeing so many crazy people coming out of the woodwork these last 10 years to do things that are so absolutely desperate. These are not times to be ripping people off or even looking like you are cheating people out of their money.

How about that guy who flew his plane into the IRS building recently. What was that guy thinking? This was over money and he really thought he was being cheated by the government. Those poor unsuspecting people working there. Pretty sad to see that...I don't want a job at a bank or a poker site or the IRS, not without a bullet proof vest, super high security and 20 foot thick steel reinforced walls, no way...

Yeah, no way I'd work for PokerStars (or any other major site) unless bullet proof vests were handed out at orientation. How could you feel safe knowing that so many psycho riggies out there could be armed and coming for you?! I mean, that wouldn't be paranoid.. or anything close to that (right?). It's just common sense to want to feel secure in such a dangerous workplace. Is it too much to want super high security and 20 foot thick steel reinforced walls? No way!



..

Last edited by LVGambler; 03-05-2010 at 04:28 AM. Reason: umm
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03-05-2010 , 04:36 AM
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Originally Posted by LVGambler
Yeah, no way I'd work for PokerStars (or any other major site) unless bullet proof vests were handed out at orientation. How could you feel safe knowing that so many psycho riggies out there could be armed and coming for you?! I mean, that wouldn't be paranoid.. or anything close to that (right?). It's just common sense to want to feel secure in such a dangerous workplace. Is it too much to want super high security and 20 foot thick steel reinforced walls? No way!



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Really makes me question my currently deal with them. Do the psychos go after the shills too? Think I should get hazard pay.
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03-05-2010 , 04:42 AM
Where's my action? iopq on stars, $100
I will pay if there's legit proof
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03-05-2010 , 05:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Josem
lol wat
You can scoff.

It wouldn't take me too long to get to the IOM in a 172.

So PS had better not piss me off. Oh no.
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03-05-2010 , 05:45 AM
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Originally Posted by pen15
More whining about Party
You already have a thread for this (since your other one was closed); some would argue that's one too many. Your Party freeroll complaints really have no place in here.
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03-05-2010 , 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by AMEC0404
Cool, I will def. be getting in touch with one of you about an analysis. Hell, I even me be able to be convinced if my numbers turn out even close to expectation. I def keep an open mind.
Still no PM here at all about this. Given how adamant you were about people obviously not wanting to put their money where their mouths were during your spamming about your bet I'm kind of curious why you have gone so silent about this when you have had both Spade and I offer to do it for you.

I was expecting to see a pm for my email addy as soon as you saw my offer...
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