Apparently challenging some of the biased stuff you spout gets you banned though. Proof 2+2 is on the Stars payroll. They conveniently erased all the posts of you getting pwned and not being able to defend the fact that your audits arent valid. Must be nice to be able to debate in here and as soon as somebody makes you look stupid you get to have them removed. and their opinions erased.

Nice work on this Michael. Putting a face and a name to the organization you work for should help people understand that there are real people who believe in what they are doing for their customers and employer. It is obvious to me that you believe that the organization you work for is a quality organization and dealing a fair and unbiased game.

Snake? Is that you? Are you back?

As a occasional lurker and poster, it can be difficult to wade through all the noise in this thread to find the good stuff, so I look forward to seeing that.

And if our pal Snake hadn't overstepped the line, I might have been able to put together quite a nice little cook book !!!1!





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Saw Canada vs. Germany last nite. At least two goals for Germany.

cjhmdm,

I know you used to be rupert, layla and whatever else, but you'll always be snake to me.

Those of you saying cjhmdm is snakecharmer are silly. Obviously hes snakecharmers cousin from MIT.

I got a kick out of you dude, uh I mean that guy Snake, who is not you, until you (he) started in with the racial stuff. Whatever moral high ground you thought you had - gone with that ****.

But that's not true: there are many people on here who challenge stuff. This whole thread is based on the concept of challenging stuff.
Oh come off it.

My guess is that he had signed a non-disclosure agreement as part of his employment, and eventually concluded that his future employment possibilities would be greater if he complied with it.

I do not believe that he is sleeping with the fishes, so to speak.

Interesting blog. Is the second photo the view from your office?

I didn't mean to publish it, but yes. That's a view of the north-western suburbs of Sydney.

You haven't said anything that I can argue with yet as I am still in the process of collecting the data. I know the amount I collect will likely not be enough to mean anything to some "pro" on these boards, but if it does enough to convince me they're indeed legit, at least initially, then it's win win right?

I have not insulted you once, I am merely responding to your indirect, border line insulting, sarcasm... simply calling a spade a spade..

Actually, with all due respect, its not. If your sample size is too small, then you are wrong to draw conclusions on it. It's not about being "pro" or not. We're talking about statistics. It's about whether your conclusions are reliable or not. Even if you happen to run exactly at expectation, you really can't draw any conclusions from a sample of 1000 hands.

The other point I made is on you posting your handhistories on a daily basis. I think you will see that that has very little interest for anyone on this forum. We all have individual hand histories and many have far more than you do. If, after having put together a large sample, you feel there is something amiss, that is the time to load them to a separate site, and post the link. At the same time you will post your conclusions, and how you arrived at them. Then you're giving people grounds for discussion.

If you're really interested in learning about what to do here, I strongly urge you to read a good chunk of this thread. Skip over the insult posts and focus on the substantive ones. Pay close attention to anything by Spadebidder, QPW, Josem, Monteroy (if memory serves Pyromantha had some really good posts back in the day). There's some really good stuff in there.

I know it's a hard concept for people to accept, but I am me. I don't know who this rupert, or layla person is.. and the only reason I know who snake is because I read through his "how many hands would it take" thread... and watched him destroy any help people were actually trying to offer him.

Again, knowing this is a difficult concept to grasp, I have already posted more personal info than I care to, so if it's not enough to convince you of my legitimacy, so be it.

Lastly, please show me where I out right insulted anyone who has replied to any of my posts? Aside from this reply here and me calling out 2+2 for burying my data thread in with this nonsense, I have not insulted anyone. I have taken what others, the few non trolls, have said replied where possible... For the rest I simply provided real world scenarios that can indeed be done.

Sure, the scenarios I gave could sound borderline crazy.. but only if I had this big conspiracy theory for some small time hustlers. The online poker - gambling as a whole too - is a very lucrative business. And if I can sit here and think up some ways to systematically cheat people out of their money while making them feel they aren't being cheated, and thinking how easily it would be to manipulate some software to do accomplish this, then it would make any sane person question the legitimacy of these rooms who pay quite a lot of money for their software to be developed.

Top that with the other "great debate" regarding the validity of these audits, and you have real reason to suspect these rooms of playing dirty and cheating people.

Since it was mentioned earlier, let's take another business, insurance, for example.

Now, insurance companies have people who do nothing all day, every day, but try to dig up reasons to drop people and decline coverage. This is not some ill thought fantasy, this is real life. Do some research on insurance companies, then pray you never need them for something more than the flu...

Then let's look at banks in general... banks are the biggest thieves in the history of man. I won't get into politics here, but I will say that if you truly trust your bank with your money, then you need to wake up.

So if the insurance companies outright, knowingly, scam people, and the banks are the leading cause of the crashing economy today, what makes you seriously believe that poker rooms aren't skimming off the top and systematically stealing money from people, then I don't know what else to say...

Ahh yes, proof. Can I prove that your insurance company is going to screw you when you need them most? Not until it happens.

Can I prove your bank(s) can't be trusted with your money? Not until they go "bankrupt" and are unable to settle their debt with you, and then being covered by the "law" surrounding bankruptcy.

Can I prove online poker rooms are or aren't cheating? Not until it happens to me.. but even then what is proof, really? For every claim I can make against them, regardless of how much data I have, they can simply cover their arses with one simple line "It's possible that this or that could have happened, therefore it is legit".

This is more or less what I have been doing. And I know it's going to take a lot of time and hands played to come up with anything worth even looking at, but while I'm boring myself to death doing this, I too find entertainment in this thread, as well as others I have read.

As I am truly interested in learning more about what I am trying to do, I will certainly be taking and absorbing info from those who know more than me. I will not knock anyone who knows more than I do, nor will I outright attempt to discredit them (even through my "shills" calls.. because well, shills really do exist and it's sometimes difficult to differentiate between a shill and a non shill), on the contrary... I will, and am, gladly accept any and all input, info and knowledge that other people have and give... so long as this "pro" advice isn't to the tune of "give up because my opinions differ from yours, and I'm a somebody in the poker world and therefore my opinions are fact blah blah blah" (not pointing any fingers, just sayin'...

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Good. You came in after a rash of some real dumbass trolls and might have gotten some of the backlash. I said before I'll give you the benefit of the doubt in that you really want to learn. If any poker site is not dealing honestly, I guarantee you all the regular posters want to know this. But there has never been any evidence of it, while evidence that the deal is fair continues to pile up year after year.

Good luck.

cjhmdm, You keep saying "they" are hiding your data by keeping it in this thread, but so far you haven't provided any data to support your claims. You just posted a few hand histories. Why not collect your data, analyze it, come to a conclusion then post all the info and your results.

nh

Sure there are shills in real life. There have been identified shills on this site (and other threads have spam shills crop up from time to time). The good news for this issue is that it doesn't matter if a poster is a shill or not if they are giving advice? Why? Because the advice should stand on its own. we're talking about some pretty straightforward statistics here. It's hard to put together to biased an argument that will stand up to much scrutiny.

Why do you keep talking about pros? They either give well thought out advice, or they don't. It's not just a matter of opinion. It's about the evidence, and how to analyze that evidence.

I think someone may have answered this already, but you'll find them at the bottom of the forum page. Mike Haven and markusgc are the main men, so to speak.

You didn't post any data. You posted a small collection of hand histories. I'm sure most of us have much much larger collections of hand histories already, so I don't know what you're looking for here.

As for why your thread was merged again, IDK, but I'd assume that it was because it was pretty light on anything meaningful. Did you PM a mod of this forum like I suggested before posting it?

Also, sending messages to mods by posting them in this thread really isn't the way to go. As I've mentioned before, I doubt very much if Mike Haven reads every (or any) post in this thread. If you want to know why he merged it, PM him.

And while you may not be saying online poker is rigged, your ridiculous accusations about mods being paid to merge your threads make you sound just about as silly as if you were. Of course no one's being paid to merge your threads. And if someone was trying to "hide the truth", wouldn't they just delete your posts?

Well, usually people are trying to accomplish something when they start a thread. Otherwise, why start it?

No, starting multiple troll accounts and making racist remarks gets you banned, sn8ke. It looks like your last accounts' posts were all deleted when a mod used the ban & delete tool rather than just an outright ban. It's a shame, because the only one being "pwned" was you, but I assume a mod did that because it was going to be a hassle to remove all your racist and hateful trolling. You haven't got around to that yet with this account, at least not that I've seen, so when I ban you I'll leave these posts for...um...posterity.

FWIW, those of you who think cjhmdm is Sn8ke, I find this highly unlikely, unless you really think he has the ability and willingness to find a way to post through an IP halfway around the world. And at the same time he was posting with his real new account, DirtyMoney.

I mean, his former new account.

was pretty obvious it was DirtyMoney, cjhmdm is posting completely differently and thus far while I think he's misguided he hasn't done anything terribly offensive AFAIK.