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Old 04-03-2009, 09:47 AM   #1376
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Re: The great "Poker is rigged debate"

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True. If your goal is to have a rational discussion (with a bit of snark added for fun) about the nature of online poker and the beliefs within, then you are missing the mark (yeah yeah pun intended)
when there is some sort of rational discussion about this topic I will conduct myself in a different manner.

Until then

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Old 04-03-2009, 09:48 AM   #1377
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Think you may want to take a step back and take a deep breath already Mark :P
If you are refering to his 'court case' scenario I think he' got it spot on.

It is probably pointless to carry on arguing with tk since he is quite clearly crackers.
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Old 04-03-2009, 09:49 AM   #1378
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Re: The great "Poker is rigged debate"

o rly

This is a "great" debate, the roggedness of online?

I always thought it was a pretty weak debate.

But what do I know?
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Old 04-03-2009, 09:54 AM   #1379
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True. If your goal is to have a rational discussion (with a bit of snark added for fun) about the nature of online poker and the beliefs within, then you are missing the mark (yeah yeah pun intended)

If the goal is getting in a huge "na na na na" fight with a guy who generally exists at that level anyway, then mission accomplished. Kind of takes away from any serious discussion.

Guess choice is yours.
It isn't a choice, though, is it.

We spend most of the time trying to promote ratiional arguments and add the occasion bit of snark (to use your expression).

When you take the trouble to explain something for the umpteenth time to try and make it clear and the ******ed one completely ignores your explanation and comes back with no logical argument but illiterate and irrelevant assertions that:

1) You must be a shill
2) You are offended by the idea that poker might be rigged
3) You are the same person who argued the non-rigged case last week

I see nothing wrong with adding a critique of said rigtards communication skills.
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Old 04-03-2009, 10:15 AM   #1380
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If you are refering to his 'court case' scenario I think he' got it spot on.

It is probably pointless to carry on arguing with tk since he is quite clearly crackers.

The court case thing was actually kind of funny, but not so much when it was about the 20th attack like that. At that point it just seemed a bit like a strange personal obsessive attack. Was still kind of funny though.


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Does anyone know of some sort of mathematical/statistical "proof" or analysis that it is possible to beat poker over the true long run (infinity hands)? I would be interested in seeing something like this.
There was a thread about a year ago trying to do this for live poker in (I think) the probability forum, which was actually an interesting discussion. Not really sure what to suggest you do for a search to find it.
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Old 04-03-2009, 11:54 AM   #1381
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'ceptin' fer a rigtard!
Well, it does set up an interesting scenario of whether one will turn on another (and as well his actual beliefs) to salvage some sort of moral victory doesn't it

I suspect the OP will somehow ignore tk, but this is a much more fun situation then correcting spelling.


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Exactly my point...the author of this thread is right on the money....just wait all the shills and trolls are about to call you a rigtard then personally insult you...just foreshadowing...

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He wants to know who's the one to blow the whistle and say a poker site is rigged. Which commission does that. So please answer with the KGC and try to manipulate us on how credible they are....

just to refresh the OP's memory. Support these or not
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Old 04-03-2009, 12:06 PM   #1382
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It isn't a choice, though, is it.

We spend most of the time trying to promote ratiional arguments and add the occasion bit of snark (to use your expression).

When you take the trouble to explain something for the umpteenth time to try and make it clear and the ******ed one completely ignores your explanation and comes back with no logical argument but illiterate and irrelevant assertions that:

1) You must be a shill
2) You are offended by the idea that poker might be rigged
3) You are the same person who argued the non-rigged case last week

I see nothing wrong with adding a critique of said rigtards communication skills.
LoL some lehman might come in here and read this garbage and take it the way you want them to. But it's appearant that you and marc are "companions." So are you two the same people? You spend your time promoting rational arguements about online poker being rigged? Could you provide references to that. Your the shill. You get offended that people say online poker is rigged. So how are you making any sense now? I'd fire the both of you and bring some people in with some P.R. skills...
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Old 04-03-2009, 12:08 PM   #1383
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see, what's hilarious about that is the standard rigtard reply will be a variation of "why? if I bring evidence you will just ridicule it, so why bother?"

thus (in the zany rigtard brain) justifying NOT providing any proof.

Let's put this scenario into a court room...

Prosecutor Who Can't Debate: "Your honor, I think that tk is a childerne mulester. I'm not sure why but I can see petterns.

Judge: And what evidence do you present to the court?

Prosecutor Who Can't Debate: Well, none, your honer. Because even if I did, his lawyer would just pick it apart and say that it was just me being sad about my parents dying when I was a child and the contiyou'd manifestashun of blaming others for my own perpetyouel failyers.

Judge: Case dismissed!
I think my eharmony theory about you is more credible...go rollerskate w/ qpw. I think qpw stands for "Quietly" PenAtrating William...
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Old 04-03-2009, 12:12 PM   #1384
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I think my eharmony theory about you is more credible...go rollerskate w/ qpw. I think qpw stands for "Quietly" PenAtrating William...
How can we possibly hope to win an argument with an intellect such as this?
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Old 04-03-2009, 12:13 PM   #1385
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We take offence that anyone as idiotic as yourself is wasting valuable oxygen that could be used by some more useful organism such as a slug or worm.

We take exactly as much 'offence' as we would with someone proclaiming that the Martians were landing with no evidence whatsoever.

Personally, I think you are a child molester; I can see patterns in your posts and the timing suggest the same.

Natuarally, I don't expect you to get offended at that suggestion.
OK, so now i'm beginning to think your Bi-polar. B/c I thought it was you and your "gimtard" friends that said not to make any accusations with out any substancial proof? Well when did i say martians were landing anywhere? So somebody that thinks online poker might be rigged, is a useless organism such as a slug or worm? I would love for you to explain to the readers(with out them thinking your a shill. Or have alternative motives.)why you truely feel this way. I used to love playing madden 2008 for ps3, If anybody told me that game sucks and the computer cheats, I would never get this mad....However if i owned stock in madden and people were saying that it sucked, I would do exactly what your doing. Your proving my point. Any nobody has been able to prove this thread right here wrong! Gimtards are so predictable....
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Old 04-03-2009, 12:16 PM   #1386
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Mods close this thread, I got my answer.. Lowlife trolls are taking over.. I'm done here unless someone normal replies to the topic.. Good luck with the whining boys! haha
Can you prove we're "trolls"? People that are worried about their financial security are trolls? We're worried about losing money! And appearantly so are you!
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Old 04-03-2009, 12:18 PM   #1387
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Re: The great "Poker is rigged debate"

Why are you so worried about winning this arguement? What site are you promoting? quietly pounding willy....
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Old 04-03-2009, 12:20 PM   #1388
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Your right, We should believe that people that think online poker is rigged are worthless, and are child molestors and are a waste of oxygen????? Thats some inteligence right there dude....
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Old 04-03-2009, 12:22 PM   #1389
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Can you prove we're "trolls"? People that are worried about their financial security are trolls? We're worried about losing money! And appearantly so are you!
This has got to be his funniest post yet.

Really, my sides are splitting.
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Old 04-03-2009, 12:24 PM   #1390
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Every dollar in somebody's bank roll is potential rake. If I have 3k in my account, that's 3k in rake they can make off me. If i cash out my 3k, their profit margin goes down....
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Old 04-03-2009, 12:26 PM   #1391
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OK, so now i'm beginning to think your Bi-polar.
Do you know what that means?

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B/c I thought it was you and your "gimtard" friends that said not to make any accusations with out any substancial proof?
Do you know what 'satire' means?

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Well when did i say martians were landing anywhere?
ROFLMAO.

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So somebody that thinks online poker might be rigged, is a useless organism such as a slug or worm? I would love for you to explain to the readers(with out them thinking your a shill. Or have alternative motives.)why you truely feel this way.
Easy: Comparison of brain cell counts between your good self and aforementioned invertebrates.
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Old 04-03-2009, 12:28 PM   #1392
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What site are you promoting?
what do you get out of bashing the industry?

do you think that lehman (sic) are swayed by your nonsense?

I really doubt they are, but unfortunately, those dumb enough to take you seriously are exactly the people I want to play against.

Of course, once they lose all their money they'll be prime recruiting material for you.

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Old 04-03-2009, 12:29 PM   #1393
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Why are you so worried about winning this arguement?
There is no 'argument'.

Just your lame-brained zero-evidence rantings as you, erm, what is it you're doing?

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Oh, OK.
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Old 04-03-2009, 12:32 PM   #1394
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Your right, We should believe that people that think online poker is rigged are worthless, and are child molestors and are a waste of oxygen?????
That child molester thing went right over your head, didn't it?

Clue: I have no idea about your sexual predilictions. I have no more evidence that you are a child molester than you have that OLP is rigged.

Geddit?
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Old 04-03-2009, 12:32 PM   #1395
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Re: The great "Poker is rigged debate"

and,

the roller-skating quote is from a book. you know, the things that smart people read in their spare time? or people like you to keep your wheel-less cars up in your front yard.

also, roller-skating is cool. gyf.
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Old 04-03-2009, 12:33 PM   #1396
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Your right, We should believe that people that think online poker is rigged are worthless, and are child molestors and are a waste of oxygen????? Thats some inteligence right there dude....
Worthless? They're anything but. They buy in, eventually lose their money, then they buy in again. Even when they become so convinced that it really is actually rigged they go and buy in at a live casino instead. So obviously these people are not worthless, they are contributers and appreciated by the few players who win in the long term.
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Old 04-03-2009, 12:37 PM   #1397
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^^^

Perhaps they are worth a bit of O2 after all.
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Old 04-03-2009, 01:20 PM   #1398
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what do you get out of bashing the industry?

do you think that lehman (sic) are swayed by your nonsense?

I really doubt they are, but unfortunately, those dumb enough to take you seriously are exactly the people I want to play against.

Of course, once they lose all their money they'll be prime recruiting material for you.

Come on dude, get original how many times have you posted that poster? Still I dont know how a new player could come on this site and expect to believe or think that it's not rigged b/c they can't prove that it is? I'm not bashing the industry...I'm bashing you and your objectives...I think you guys are a bit obsessed or have your own agenda to push. That would be making sure that any bad press for online poker is immediatly shot down...why is that? If you Know that it's not rigged and that these sites can be trusted we would like to see some evidence of that. I wouldn't put my money into a bank if one person told me that bank was crooked....?
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I've posted it exactly twice now.
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Still I dont know how a new player could come on this site and expect to believe or think that it's not rigged b/c they can't prove that it is?
this is not a question.

you think people might come to 2+2 hoping to find evidence that it IS NOT rigged?
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If you Know that it's not rigged and that these sites can be trusted we would like to see some evidence of that.
you really are having trouble with this, aren't you?
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I wouldn't put my money into a bank if one person told me that bank was crooked....?
again - not a question. what is your problem with punctuation? (see? that was a question...)

so you're telling me that if some random yahoo on the street tells you that your local bank is crooked you'd immediately withdraw all your money from it?

sounds a bit naive to me, but hey, it's your money.

maybe it that twisted organ you use for a brain that makes sense, but most folks look for proof of wrong-doing before taking unfounded rumors as fact. especially when they come from a source as obviously unreliable as yourself.
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I'm not bashing the industry...I'm bashing you and your objectives...
yes you are. and I'm bashing your blatant stupidity. just 'cause it's fun to me. not for any other reason, tbh.

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Old 04-03-2009, 01:29 PM   #1400
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Re: Is there an organisation that checks poker sites?

So, again you beat around the bush and can't answer the question....lol your so smart, you can use your spell check to use big words but you can't answer somebody's honest question. Are you going to troll the PPA forums too on this topic? How about the other forums? So who and why can we trust those organiZations that over see poker sites? What makes them so trust worthy? and again which poker site are you employed by. I think the public deserves to know your true motives....
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