Correct, but if you thought 73o in particular was showing up oddly then you would check that hand in more samples. It shouldn't be the outlier any more often than any other hand, on average.

Yes.

Actually, do I have to count each tail? That would be 3%, right?

No, 2.5 SD covers approximately 98.7% of all outcomes in a two-tailed distribution (I rounded before). In a large enough sample you'd want to see 1.3%/2 on both ends, but your numbers are too small to expect the distribution to be that uniform.

Here's a handy tool:
http://www.measuringusability.com/pcalcz.php

How are you an occasional poker player and an RNG expert?

Things that make you go hmmmmmmmmmmmmm

I would say its 76.859403% likely that you are one of the RNG developers or technicians.

Understood. Yeah, the numbers are so small, it's hard to get them to work out smoothly, but I can see the gist of how it would work.

Hardcore learning ITT.

First off, we're not discussing the RNG. We're just talking probabilities.

Second off, that's all I'm feeding you, troll.

It tastes so goooooooooood

I get that a lot.

Here's a picture of me at work.

No less than 2 minutes after posting this I recieved a private email from PSMichaelJ offering to find out where my hand histories are. Which was nice of him.

But what that tells you is they are constantly monitoring this thread. Notice he isnt posting in here but was aware right away when I made this post. Because he either posts in here under a gimmick account or one of his employees who posts in here made him aware.

How about everyone be upfront about who they are as I have been. If you are from Pstars or FullTilt then let it be known. You are doing a terrible job of trying to diguise yourselves as regular players anyway.

Look at his profiles. Everyone but you knows his personal screenname, he doesn't hide it and never has. He was here before he was at PS. If you knew a little about online poker you'd know the backstory. Hint: AP/UB/60 Minutes.

Which site pays you to so passionatly defend the sites daily?

FYP Troll

Thanks.
Hi,

As has been discussed repeatedly in this thread, that's me. I am PSMichaelJ. I work for PokerStars.

As evidenced by the fact that this has been repeatedly discussed and disclosed by me in this very thread, I am not trying to disguise myself in anyway.

You highlighted a problem you had with PokerStars; I am happy to do what I can to help resolve that.

It is normal to get player hand histories to them within 48 hours of their request. It is possible that the staff member who submitted your request lost it, failed to request them, or simply forgot them. As a general rule, when I (or any of my colleagues) are alerted to a possible mistake that we've made, we do our best to try to correct it.

regards,
Michael

LOL

Why 2 accounts then? Why not just always post under your PS name. And who else in this thread is a PokerStars employee posting under an alternate name? hmmmmmmmm

Because those are the TwoPlusTwo rules.

Here's the original thread I started on the issue:
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28...rstars-124537/

There aren't any PokerStars employees posting under alternate names.

This issue is pretty demonstrative of the whole issue here. Traditionally, before people make wild and offensive accusations, it was normal to gather evidence. That's how the rest of the world works: you gather evidence and then you make accusations or draw conclusions from the data.

Online roulette is rogged.

Hard to gather evidence when you have your servers behind closed doors. How about you let us hire an independent analyst to come check out your servers? Sites like to run programs that check to see what programs we use but we arent allowed to do the same to you. Where is the transparency? I have a cousin who goes to MIT. Would you be willing to let him and some of his classmates come and analyze your servers?

But as has been repeatedly discussed in this thread, the servers are not the important thing: it is the output, the hand histories, that matter. You have all the evidence you need in the form of hand histories.

Those hand histories are available to anyone - anyone can email and request a copy of every single real money hand history they've ever played in. Ironically, this little diversion arose because I was trying to assist you with that!
Here are a reports by a couple of independent analysts that have already done this:

http://www.pokerstars.com/poker/rng/

The hand histories are the evidence.

No, because apart from the intellectual property issues involved, such a planned spot check wouldn't even assure you of what you claim to want: there's no way to prove that a pre-announced investigation like what you propose would even end up looking at the right servers. If you work on the basis that the leading online poker sites are untrustworthy, then it makes no sense to inspect the servers in a pre-arranged fashion because they could swap the servers in/out on demand.

The only way to circumvent such an effort is to look at the output data: the hand histories. They're the evidence and the records of each and every transaction.

So wait lol...Now I agree with you that you could easily swap out the servers so allowing our independent people to do a spot check would be pointless. So what exactly happened with the independent analysts that you provided that make this scenario different. Couldnt the same thing have happened with them making their conclusions irrelevant?

We need some type of department of gaming regulating everyone on a whole. Its rediculous that these sites are pulling all this money out of the worlds economy without any type of real integrity enforcement. We need somone on our payroll inside your comapny doing test on a regular baisis to make sure you are providing us with a legitiment playing enviorment. Its all setup so you guys can operate however you want without transparency and thats has to end.

Also. Did you pay those analysts for their services or did we?

Ok, im gonna go straight forward to my point.

I played in many poker sites in my life and I also play live obviously.
I've never seen somewhere where the aces fall so frequent as in Pokerstars. The aces fall like mad, how many times have u been busted with QQ or KK or JJ against a hand with an ace and the ace falls on the flop, the last times u've gotten those hands. JJ against A10 is a huge underdog in Stats imo. It's ridiculous. They say that it's an optical distorsion as we tend to outstand the ace image on the board. But man, this is so ridiculous, either u have it in your hand or it appears on the flop, the ace will always come. I doubt an ace is kept in the deck for one entire hand. Obviously I didn't make a specific analysis of this, it's just an hypothesis, but Pokerstars' is ridiculous on this matter.

They reviewed the output.

But that already exists? http://www.pokerstars.com/iom/

But that's not the case: there are independent government regulators for PokerStars.

I don't understand why you keep just "making stuff up". If you are unsure of something, it would seem more reasonable to ask the question than to keep making these false assertions (especially since you have a poker site employee like myself here and able to answer your questions).
They were paid for by PokerStars.

Play all your A hands and fold KK, QQ, JJ.

Gee that one has never been proven wrong before.....

sigh