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02-12-2010 , 11:23 PM
I said party poker not PS stupid
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02-12-2010 , 11:29 PM
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Originally Posted by banonlinepoker
Oh yea he can't be a 6 dollar grinder like you folding till you get those aces huh? Get over yourself dude.
and besides my average buy ins are 10-20 on all sites "lol"

dude just hates life
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02-12-2010 , 11:29 PM
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The sites that you claim are in places "where theres (sic) no law" are places like Australia, Europe and the British Isles.

As I've said repeatedly in this thread, the idea that everywhere outside the US has no laws is just xenophobia on your behalf.
This is complete crap. The servers don't exist in these places, they exist on land that has no regulation whatsoever. If they did Russ Hamilton wouldn't be walking around throwing around the fact he stole from hundreds of poker players and nobody can do a thing about it.
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02-12-2010 , 11:30 PM
Haha why does everyone slam Montorey for? I actually find his posts insightful and witty
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02-12-2010 , 11:33 PM
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Originally Posted by banonlinepoker
This is complete crap. The servers don't exist in these places, they exist on land that has no regulation whatsoever. If they did Russ Hamilton wouldn't be walking around throwing around the fact he stole from hundreds of poker players and nobody can do a thing about it.
reading comprehension ftw

Try keeping things in context next time.
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02-12-2010 , 11:33 PM
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Originally Posted by banonlinepoker
This is complete crap. The servers don't exist in these places, they exist on land that has no regulation whatsoever. If they did Russ Hamilton wouldn't be walking around throwing around the fact he stole from hundreds of poker players and nobody can do a thing about it.
What you say might well apply to AP/UB. I think what they did is pretty shocking, and that the regulation of them is entirely unworthy. That's why I don't play on those sites.

But if this is a concern to you - as it is to me - then just don't play at the KGC associated sites.

Sites like PokerStars, PartyPoker, and iPoker, and so on, do operate from proper western countries. The PokerStars servers are in the British Isles. I assume that the PartyPoker and iPoker servers are somewhere in Europe - I don't know, you could email them to check, I imagine.
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02-12-2010 , 11:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Sn8keChaRmer
What are your screen names lol? You got big words lol that are delivered with alot of attitude. Im willing to bet your a losing player which is ironic lol. You sound like ur mad because Im saying its rigged and Im up money on the whole deal and you are down which must mean that you must be wearing a helmet with pretty stickers tethered to a bedpost lol
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02-12-2010 , 11:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Sn8keChaRmer
and besides my average buy ins are 10-20 on all sites "lol"

dude just hates life
I suggest you avoid using the filters on OPR then to show your last couple of year stats then.

Does not matter much, you do not win any more, that even you are open about - we are just discussing whether it is because of you or because of mystical, massive conspiracies against you.

To your credit, you at least posted some information, albeit standard marginal/losing player info. The guy you are clinging to has yet to post anything aside from bad beats in micro tourneys once in a while with the user names left out.

Play more on acid as well, your recent results could not get much worse.


Fighting the non playing shills was sort of fun, but the debates with the paranoid delusional riggies is kind of where it is at for long term results.

Sorry you did not cash in any of your $2-3 tournaments today. Better luck tomorrow.

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Haha why does everyone slam Montorey for? I actually find his posts insightful and witty
You left out humble.
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02-12-2010 , 11:42 PM
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Originally Posted by NFuego20
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02-12-2010 , 11:46 PM
[QUOTE=Monteroy;16792886]

Play more on acid as well, your recent results could not get much worse.


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You obviously didnt read the thread. It was made up to get a bunch of 2+2 hypes to sit in to at all the tables spamming the chat. And it was a success and I got a nice chuckle. gg me
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02-12-2010 , 11:56 PM
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Play more on acid as well, your recent results could not get much worse.


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You obviously didnt read the thread. It was made up to get a bunch of 2+2 hypes to sit in to at all the tables spamming the chat. And it was a success and I got a nice chuckle. gg me
Play on acid. Play on Jolt. Whatever it takes to turn off those doomswitches Stars has you cursed with when you keep losing those $2 ones you play these days.

Just trying to help you out there.

Serious suggestions:

Get coaching/friends who are serious about poker to help you. Make sure your game is still up to date and solid.

"LOL" and "gg me" less and focus on how to make money if that is your reason to play poker. If it is to screw around then do whatever you like.

Drop beliefs of conspiracies against you. You do not matter that much, nobody does.



or don't in which case you can keep posting about how you have cursed accounts.

All the best.
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02-12-2010 , 11:57 PM
I win...and i think poker is rigged......
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02-13-2010 , 12:07 AM
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Originally Posted by toltec444
I win...and i think poker is rigged......
and you have no logical basis or evidence supporting that opinion and are likely wrong...

See how we can go around in circles like this?
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02-13-2010 , 12:16 AM
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and you have no logical basis or evidence supporting that opinion and are likely wrong...

See how we can go around in circles like this?
The funny part here is either do you but yet alot of you like to talk like were stupid for questioning these people. They have security teams to make sure players arent colluding and this and that but do we check them back? No. Lots of random posters on here that are really passionate about shooting down any accusations of wrong doing from the sites but yet you cant prove they are legit.

Seems alittle hypocritical lolzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

You rigtards are allllllll stupid! The sites obviously arent rigged because theyyyyyy say they arent. And just because I have no real information of my own to prove my stance doesnt mean anything because they told me so

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02-13-2010 , 12:38 AM
keep up the good work Sn8ke. It reads well when you finally debate the truth about rigging and doomswitching that obviously exists on Party and others. they love to call us believers names they think sounds cool. Maybe you can come up with a monicker that sounds as degrading about them. will be watching.
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02-13-2010 , 01:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Sn8keChaRmer
The funny part here is either do you but yet alot of you like to talk like were stupid for questioning these people. They have security teams to make sure players arent colluding and this and that but do we check them back? No. Lots of random posters on here that are really passionate about shooting down any accusations of wrong doing from the sites but yet you cant prove they are legit.

Seems alittle hypocritical lolzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

You rigtards are allllllll stupid! The sites obviously arent rigged because theyyyyyy say they arent. And just because I have no real information of my own to prove my stance doesnt mean anything because they told me so
you couldn't be more wrong, but since you fail to examine any of the legitimate work that has been done on this subject, there's simply nothing more anybody can say
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02-13-2010 , 01:48 AM
I found a site www.fulltiltisrigged.com which has multiple photos from someones 8 hour session of playing cards on full tilt which shows how many bad beats one can take during that time. The beats are just unbelieveable and after viewing all those photos I will never play at that rigged site again. I don't know why these online poker sites don't release the last 100 million hands dealt to a reputable place like this one so the hands can be analyzed from top to bottom.

They swear that they don't rig the cards to promote action but all I see is the opposite. The cards are not random at all and in fact the site is purposefully rigging the cards to promote action and/or tilt people. When people are tilted they are more likely to bet larger, and make bad calls which increases the rake.

The programming of these sites was very well developed and thought out, plus knowing that they are above and beyond USA regulation they can do whatever they want. Anyway that site is www.fulltiltisrigged.com if you want to check it out.
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02-13-2010 , 01:53 AM
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Originally Posted by mikern12
I found a site www.fulltiltisrigged.com which has multiple photos from someones 8 hour session of playing cards on full tilt which shows how many bad beats one can take during that time. The beats are just unbelieveable and after viewing all those photos I will never play at that rigged site again. I don't know why these online poker sites don't release the last 100 million hands dealt to a reputable place like this one so the hands can be analyzed from top to bottom.

They swear that they don't rig the cards to promote action but all I see is the opposite. The cards are not random at all and in fact the site is purposefully rigging the cards to promote action and/or tilt people. When people are tilted they are more likely to bet larger, and make bad calls which increases the rake.

The programming of these sites was very well developed and thought out, plus knowing that they are above and beyond USA regulation they can do whatever they want. Anyway that site is www.fulltiltisrigged.com if you want to check it out.
Another rigtard who is a paranoid xenophobe. America is not the be all and end of all of the world. If you think the U.S government is trustworthy then you're deluded.
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02-13-2010 , 01:56 AM
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Originally Posted by mikern12
I found a site www.fulltiltisrigged.com which has multiple photos from someones 8 hour session of playing cards on full tilt which shows how many bad beats one can take during that time. The beats are just unbelieveable and after viewing all those photos I will never play at that rigged site again. I don't know why these online poker sites don't release the last 100 million hands dealt to a reputable place like this one so the hands can be analyzed from top to bottom.

They swear that they don't rig the cards to promote action but all I see is the opposite. The cards are not random at all and in fact the site is purposefully rigging the cards to promote action and/or tilt people. When people are tilted they are more likely to bet larger, and make bad calls which increases the rake.

The programming of these sites was very well developed and thought out, plus knowing that they are above and beyond USA regulation they can do whatever they want. Anyway that site is www.fulltiltisrigged.com if you want to check it out.
Did anyone else see the UB advertisement on www.fulltiltisrigged.com. The irony
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02-13-2010 , 02:06 AM
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Originally Posted by mikern12
They swear that they don't rig the cards to promote action but all I see is the opposite. The cards are not random at all
Please explain what it means for the cards to be "not random" in your opinion.

Be fair to yourself and do this before you do some research on what "random" actually means. I think you may find that your concept of randomness is wrong. You also will find that there are very specific ways that randomness can be measured and verified, and "all I see" is a notoriously unreliable way to measure it.
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02-13-2010 , 02:33 AM
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Originally Posted by arcticbeatle
Did anyone else see the UB advertisement on www.fulltiltisrigged.com. The irony
LOL LOL LOL gotta love UB
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02-13-2010 , 02:35 AM
Can someone explain why i havent won a pot in 5 days after i sent my id in 3 times and wait for my account to be verified for cashout? Its total bs cake network is a fing joke
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02-13-2010 , 02:39 AM
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Originally Posted by pooflinger
Can someone explain why i havent won a pot in 5 days after i sent my id in 3 times and wait for my account to be verified for cashout? Its total bs cake network is a fing joke
Why don't you upload your HHs to a file sharing site and we can take a look?
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02-13-2010 , 02:55 AM
whats the point i know im getting screwed
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02-13-2010 , 02:58 AM
you will see me losing lots of flips and big pocket pairs runing into sets or what ever all it will show is i have not had the chance to take a nice pot down in alot of hands which seems fishy
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