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Old 02-10-2010, 07:19 PM   #13301
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Donko, You're now a Puppet....Pathetic.
I cant help it, one night I had the worst dream, Monteroy showed up with some gang bangers, they had found where I lived and broken into my house. I wake up and here is this midget pointing a 22 at my face. He was wearing one of those all across the knuckles rings and it said "Monteroy". I said, oh please, oh please Mr., dont shoot me and my girl in the head." He said that if I keep my pie hole shut about the rigging, that I would not end up with another pie hole in my head. He also made off with my girlfriend...

So TK...what would you do?
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Old 02-10-2010, 08:24 PM   #13302
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Donko, You're now a Puppet....Pathetic.
WTF is this crap? He's a puppet for committing to working on his game rather than making rigged claims?

Donko, good luck to you; keep up the good work!
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Old 02-10-2010, 08:35 PM   #13303
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WTF is this crap? He's a puppet for committing to working on his game rather than making rigged claims?

Donko, good luck to you; keep up the good work!
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If you rigtards actually took the time to stop complaining in this thread and chose to do something constructive like work on your game instead. You're results might change for the better
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Old 02-10-2010, 10:19 PM   #13304
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Make it into the green for .10/.25 and then you can start talking some trash Mr. Arcticbeatle. Looks like you are running really good at the moment.

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Old 02-10-2010, 10:57 PM   #13305
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WTF is this crap? He's a puppet for committing to working on his game rather than making rigged claims?

Donko, good luck to you; keep up the good work!
LOL! TK, you make this thread fun. Please keep throwing stones at the 6" shatterproof glass, at least your throwing arm will stay in shape.

Thanks Bobo and Arouette. I am done wasting energy on paranoia. I really do have more important things to do.

This thread is fun though, have to peek in every once in a while...lol
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Old 02-10-2010, 11:19 PM   #13306
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If you take the amount of hands/hour we are able to play online, all online poker rooms would be desert in a few days if the cards dealt were random......

The fishs would be broke and the sharks would go to another poker room where still have fishs.

Simply mathematic.....

As I have teached you before...every online poker room has to slowdown the flow of money from fishs to sharks.

The fact that the better players win money from the worse players doesnt change the fact that the flow of money is slowed down.


Simple mathematic......
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Old 02-10-2010, 11:25 PM   #13307
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Make it into the green for .10/.25 and then you can start talking some trash Mr. Arcticbeatle. Looks like you are running really good at the moment.




Why do you keep trying to hose me in this thread about my results anyway?

My thread is that way -> if you want to publicly belittle me and/or question my ability as a player

Have you even looked at the variance simulator that I posted on here yet? I reccommend you do, as assuming you're a winning player, that will give you some idea of how bad you can run and for how long.

I actually got warned by another poster not to start posting in this thread as it will make me dumber. I honestly feel like I have lost 3 points off my IQ after indulging in the nonsense here. But yet I feel compelled to check this thread 3 times a day and post numerous times a week.. Go figure
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Old 02-10-2010, 11:25 PM   #13308
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Another statistic teach for you.....its impossible to detect any anomaly doing statistical analisys because every statistical anomaly can be defeated if you increase the pool, in a infinite pool of hands anything is possible and expected, like to get 1 billion pocket AA in a sequence of hands.

Simple statistic....


What the clever do is to say: Oh you think there is a stat anomaly in your hands database? So lets increase the pool!!! LOL

In a infinite database anything is possible and there is NO anomaly, the only thing we can analyse is finite database.

Finite database means time limited databases...everything else is just lol
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Old 02-10-2010, 11:30 PM   #13309
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in a infinite pool of hands anything is possible and expected, like to get 1 billion pocket AA in a sequence of hands.

Simple statistic....


What the clever do is to say: Oh you think there is a stat anomaly in your hands database? So lets increase the pool!!! LOL

In a infinite database anything is possible and there is NO anomaly, the only thing we can analyse is finite database.
You have this pretty much exactly backwards, and it makes you look really ignorant. Like arctic and several others have said, something makes us come back to this thread, and then wish we hadn't.
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Old 02-10-2010, 11:35 PM   #13310
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good answer, to call me ignorant
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Old 02-10-2010, 11:37 PM   #13311
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IF you take a infinite pool, at some point of that infinite there will be 1 billion of AA dealt in a row.
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Old 02-10-2010, 11:37 PM   #13312
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In my new quest to become SnG King of the World...

946 hands... AA twice... once everyone folded to my raise... once i got reraised all-in preflop by KQo and lost to K on the turn and Q on the river...

rigged
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Old 02-10-2010, 11:40 PM   #13313
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In my new quest to become SnG King of the World...

946 hands... AA twice... once everyone folded to my raise... once i got reraised all-in preflop by KQo and lost to K on the turn and Q on the river...

rigged
Increase the pool and you will see its just variance.

Like in the 1 billion AA in a row, increase the pool to infinite and you will see its just variance.
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Old 02-11-2010, 04:31 AM   #13314
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good answer, to call me ignorant
I thought so.
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Old 02-11-2010, 04:34 AM   #13315
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IF you take a infinite pool, at some point of that infinite there will be 1 billion of AA dealt in a row.
True.

When you find an infinite pool, just let us know and we'll confirm the above.

Actually, it's even weirder than that. In the example you mention you will find a billion AA's dealt in a row an infinite number of times.

And any weird suckout you care to imagine will happen a billion times in a row. Not just once but an infinite number of times.

Isn't maths fun?
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Old 02-11-2010, 04:42 AM   #13316
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IF you take a infinite pool, at some point of that infinite there will be 1 billion of AA dealt in a row.
In an infinite grouping of people, there will be an infinite number of idiots.

So what's your point?

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Old 02-11-2010, 04:54 AM   #13317
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If you rigtards actually took the time to stop complaining in this thread and chose to do something constructive like work on your game instead. You're results might change for the better
And when we do and still continue to lose 80-20 and 70-30 hands 90% of the time then what? Variance only goes so far but when it stop varying then you know there is third party involved. When the poor players continue to overplay poor hands and continue to win it's simply obvious to see and we are powerless to prosecute it. Which is why they are in such a rush to con the US into legalizing it. I just pray our GOP congressman stand their ground and force these scammers to move to US soil and let a real gaming commision view their hardware and regulate it. Then maybe we can get a fair shake.
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Old 02-11-2010, 04:56 AM   #13318
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And when we do and still continue to lose 80-20 and 70-30 hands 90% of the time then what?
Really? It's this blatant and you're completely unable to provide stats to back it up??
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Old 02-11-2010, 05:09 AM   #13319
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And when we do and still continue to lose 80-20 and 70-30 hands 90% of the time then what?
Just keep playing until your sample size reaches four figures.
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Old 02-11-2010, 05:12 AM   #13320
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And when we do and still continue to lose 80-20 and 70-30 hands 90% of the time then what? Variance only goes so far but when it stop varying then you know there is third party involved. When the poor players continue to overplay poor hands and continue to win it's simply obvious to see and we are powerless to prosecute it. Which is why they are in such a rush to con the US into legalizing it. I just pray our GOP congressman stand their ground and force these scammers to move to US soil and let a real gaming commision view their hardware and regulate it. Then maybe we can get a fair shake.
all this. Except its more like 92% for me. Ive been shipping Stars hands for weeks now. Adding two more today I've now lost 7 straight all ins to an under pair that has hit 2 outs on either turn or river and 6 of them were river. Ill post all of these if its neccesary. Its almost funny at this point. They even told me that maybe I should go to 2+2 and study the strategy forums lol. I couldnt find a thread here about how not to get outdrawn on. They also said there were plenty of respectable people on 2+2 that would back up that Stars isnt rigged. I responded " who like Bobo Fett lmao?" Bobo is like the the tobbaco lobbyist from "TY For Smoking" only not charming or witty.
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Old 02-11-2010, 05:12 AM   #13321
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Really? It's this blatant and you're completely unable to provide stats to back it up??
sometimes it surely seems like that's the truth
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Old 02-11-2010, 05:14 AM   #13322
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sn8kecharmer,

that's truly unreal if you aren't lying.
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Old 02-11-2010, 05:29 AM   #13323
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all this. Except its more like 92% for me. Ive been shipping Stars hands for weeks now. Adding two more today I've now lost 7 straight all ins to an under pair that has hit 2 outs on either turn or river and 6 of them were river. Ill post all of these if its neccesary. Its almost funny at this point. They even told me that maybe I should go to 2+2 and study the strategy forums lol. I couldnt find a thread here about how not to get outdrawn on. They also said there were plenty of respectable people on 2+2 that would back up that Stars isnt rigged. I responded " who like Bobo Fett lmao?" Bobo is like the the tobbaco lobbyist from "TY For Smoking" only not charming or witty.
You think you lose 92% of all in hands were you're a substantial favourite?? I have seen people run extraordinarily bad before but no-one can run that bad over a decent sample.

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Old 02-11-2010, 05:39 AM   #13324
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You think you lose 92% of all in hands were you're a substantial favourite?? I have seen people riun extraordinarily bad before but no-one can run that bad over a decent sample.
I have a phantom Stars account that is unlike any other account Ive ever played on. I even opened a second account on Stars one time just to compare and I one like 4 donkaments in a month. I have a 49% roi on FTP over 2200 games. And this acount on Stars is like 5%. I literally can't remember the last time I won an "all in" in the money of a MTT. I've been trying to offer them money to let me switch accounts but Im not sure they are gonna budge. This account is literaly something that should be studied. I wonder if I can get them to release my entire hand history of 1900 games so we can run it through some kinf of luck analizer.
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Old 02-11-2010, 06:43 AM   #13325
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today i lost KK against AA, then KK against QQ, and then everyone folded to my BB having AA
sooooo rigged




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