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Old 02-07-2010, 04:27 PM   #13201
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Oh and Im willing to pay for someones efforts to analize my account
This account is held by someone with an ego much larger than his poker skills. One who thinks its his birth right to run hot. A person who saw the good side of variance at a few other sites now cries like a baby that hes being cheated once reality hit him at Pokerstars. This person claims to be cheated then cheats and opens multiple accounts. In other words, this account is held by a standard rigtard.

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Old 02-07-2010, 04:27 PM   #13202
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Maybe your paranoia induces you to play worse when on that account.
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Old 02-07-2010, 04:38 PM   #13203
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I dont get it. But Im kinda slow
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Old 02-07-2010, 04:40 PM   #13204
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49% roi over 2000 games isnt running hot. Thats just good poker. And having the same result on 4 other sites isnt running hot either. Its just good poker. What I did on my second account on Stars wasnt running hot. Its just because Im good at poker. What happens on my current Stars account is a result of consistantly running horrible day in and day out over 1500 games. Anyone arguing is most likely speeking out of emotion. Im not calling online poker rigged. Im saying there is something wrong with how this particular stars account runs and Im looking for someone to help me prove it. Lots of people complain that they run bad all the time meanwhile some people run great. Maybe Im just running good on 5 other accounts and this one account is the normal lol. I think thats what alot of busto 2+2 posters would like to think but I think the logic points other wise
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Old 02-07-2010, 04:42 PM   #13205
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Old 02-07-2010, 04:47 PM   #13206
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Now that was a ROFL good poast
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Old 02-07-2010, 04:48 PM   #13207
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49% roi over 2000 games isnt running hot. Thats just good poker. And having the same result on 4 other sites isnt running hot either. Its just good poker. What I did on my second account on Stars wasnt running hot. Its just because Im good at poker. What happens on my current Stars account is a result of consistantly running horrible day in and day out over 1500 games. Anyone arguing is most likely speeking out of emotion. Im not calling online poker rigged. Im saying there is something wrong with how this particular stars account runs and Im looking for someone to help me prove it. Lots of people complain that they run bad all the time meanwhile some people run great. Maybe Im just running good on 5 other accounts and this one account is the normal lol. I think thats what alot of busto 2+2 posters would like to think but I think the logic points other wise
You arent a good poker player, you dont even understand basic concepts. You won in some donkaments probably because, well, they are donkaments full of droolers like yourself.
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Old 02-07-2010, 04:54 PM   #13208
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49% roi over 2000 games isnt running hot. Thats just good poker. And having the same result on 4 other sites isnt running hot either. Its just good poker. What I did on my second account on Stars wasnt running hot. Its just because Im good at poker. What happens on my current Stars account is a result of consistantly running horrible day in and day out over 1500 games. Anyone arguing is most likely speeking out of emotion. Im not calling online poker rigged. Im saying there is something wrong with how this particular stars account runs and Im looking for someone to help me prove it. Lots of people complain that they run bad all the time meanwhile some people run great. Maybe Im just running good on 5 other accounts and this one account is the normal lol. I think thats what alot of busto 2+2 posters would like to think but I think the logic points other wise
Create another Pokerstars account, this time under a real friend/relative's name that you can trust. Make a ton with your new boom account.

Assuming you are not a gimmick account (which does not really matter if you are), just exploit the flawed boomswitch/doomswitch system as you deem appropriate and make a ton of money from it.

Your single account experience is not enough data, that is like running hot in a couple of online casinos for a month doing bonuses. It will happen. Duplicate it with dozens or hundreds of new accounts and then you will have stronger data, and will make millions while doing it assuming everything you believe in is true.

Seriously, not sure what else you want. You dismiss people saying it is variance/luck or when they suggest you use Holdem Manager and accumulate enough data. Those are the only actual constructive comments you will get, so I say you should go with your beliefs, and when you create another new account that has to run hot stop screwing around in the $33 tournaments, go for the $500+ ones to really cash in big time. Maybe even the $5000 sit and gos. After all, you are a great player.

Seems like a flawless plan to me so best of luck with it.
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Old 02-07-2010, 04:56 PM   #13209
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So since me and my friends all agree that my Stars account is "cursed" and we dont know how to go about proving it.
You mean these guys?



I'd take their suspicions with a grain of salt if I were you.

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Your welcome.

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Oh and Im willing to pay for someones efforts to analize my account
I'll do it for free, just give me your account name and log in password tonight and you can rub your ass and tell me if you've been sufficiently analized when you login in the morning.

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Im kinda slow
Well I better add the disclaimer that the above is a joke....


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Old 02-07-2010, 05:07 PM   #13210
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With all due respect, it is my thread. I don't mean the non believers. I mean the people who are totally against God. Who say negative things and mock Jesus.

Let's say you don't believe in Jesus. I don't see anything wrong with that. But to make fun of Jesus or to mock Him is the part I can't understand. If you were to take the time to really look at the type of things he was saying even if the guy wasn't God his message was positive. It wasn't like the guy was telling people to be awful to each other. He was telling people to help the poor people. He never once acted all high and mighty. As a matter of fact he avoided mingling with the people of stature and wealth and praised the lowest people and tried to help them.

The Pharisees in the bible remind me a lot of the way the atheists are. The Pharisees knew the Law cold. They were the most dedicated. They were extremely pround of that dedication. They loved their knowledge and it made them unwilling to humble themselves. Jesus kept testing them. In the end it wasn't the most knowledgeable that were faithful but the people who had already been humbled and broken down by life.

It's not something in your mind it's something in your heart.
You should come on over and take a gander at RGT: plenty of atheists making fun of Jesus... https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/13...-god-theology/o

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Old 02-07-2010, 06:02 PM   #13211
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When I take vitamin AA I keep getting beat by someone who took vitamin KK.
Vitamins are rigged, obv.
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Old 02-07-2010, 06:09 PM   #13212
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lol seriously? You really feel the need to talk to people like this. Im gonna stop responding to the flames as its just a super pahtetic way to communicate.
You're probably the 4,000th person to come here, say "Im running way under what I should, the sites hate me!" and I can't recall any of them being proven wrong and saying "Oh, looks like you were right and I just misinterpreted things. Thanks!"

At best, they just never come back to follow up on anything, and at worst, they say "Well, I still ran 0.3 SDs under expectation, it's obviously rogged against me."
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And why I started a new account on Stars and destroyed and then went back to nothing on the original account. I dont see anyone giving me an explanation for that.
You played 136 games and ran hotter than electrical jesus. It's a completely meaningless sample.

How can you be sure you wouldn't have had the exact same run if you played under your original "doomed" account?
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Old 02-07-2010, 06:13 PM   #13213
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Jesus kept testing them.
Maybe Jesus is mad you're worshiping other kings, fold em preflop.
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Old 02-07-2010, 06:24 PM   #13214
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Maybe Jesus is mad you're worshiping other kings, fold em preflop.
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Old 02-07-2010, 06:38 PM   #13215
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What's with the religious debate?
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Old 02-07-2010, 07:18 PM   #13216
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What's with the religious debate?
Dunno.

I'm waiting for: "The great "Jesus Wants You For a Sunbeam" debate - Collected Threads Edition.
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Old 02-08-2010, 01:00 AM   #13217
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As I said before, zero, but don't let transparent reality get in the way of your theories.

If there is anything I can do to help you develop and foster your paranoid delusions further let me know as I am all about helping people like you, and frankly making paranoid people even more paranoid is fun.

By the way, sorry you could not beat a simple game. You have my sympathies.

Woo, I just made me another 50 cents. Cha-ching!

All the best.
How do you know he cannot beat the game? Did he tell you? Did you beat him? Oh thats right...because he questions the intergrity of the online game=he must suck at poker. Furthermore, because you don't agree with him makes you an outstanding player worthy of degrading his play. It must be nice to always believe you know better, to always be the smartest person in the room....hang on a second while I vomit on the floor...
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Old 02-08-2010, 01:16 AM   #13218
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Well I feel I have a real heartbeat of the opinion of the busto 2+2 crowd. Thx for sharing guys. I purchased Holdem Manager earlier and Im going to set it up with the luck analizer and then show the comparison of 5 different accounts including my Stars over the next month of play so then we can have some info that we would all be able to agree is valid and cant be disputed by life hating sad sacks that post out of frustration of not being able to profit. In reality nobody knows exactly what Im dealing with on this account and its really hard for you to make the accusations that you so passionatly do. I think when someone thats been a consistant winner for three years on all sites makes an accusation like I have that its best to not to assume that Im just some rigtard complaining about not being able to make money. I make a pretty decent living playing poker and have no worries. I have however found a huge inconsistancy with this account and I think its in everyones best interest that we constantly keep our guard up to investigate anything that seems out of the norm just as the sites do to us so everyone can keep eachother honest.

TY to the few people who responded respectfully. Your information has been useful and I appreciate it
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Old 02-08-2010, 01:23 AM   #13219
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Well I feel I have a real heartbeat of the opinion of the busto 2+2 crowd. Thx for sharing guys. I purchased Holdem Manager earlier and Im going to set it up with the luck analizer and then show the comparison of 5 different accounts including my Stars over the next month of play so then we can have some info that we would all be able to agree is valid and cant be disputed by life hating sad sacks that post out of frustration of not being able to profit. In reality nobody knows exactly what Im dealing with on this account and its really hard for you to make the accusations that you so passionatly do. I think when someone thats been a consistant winner for three years on all sites makes an accusation like I have that its best to not to assume that Im just some rigtard complaining about not being able to make money. I make a pretty decent living playing poker and have no worries. I have however found a huge inconsistancy with this account and I think its in everyones best interest that we constantly keep our guard up to investigate anything that seems out of the norm just as the sites do to us so everyone can keep eachother honest.

TY to the few people who responded respectfully. Your information has been useful and I appreciate it
Youre a douchebag. Youre here crying over losing a few donkaments yet everyone else is poor. GTFO, no one cares what you have to say.
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Old 02-08-2010, 01:39 AM   #13220
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It must be nice to always believe you know better, to always be the smartest person in the room....hang on a second while I vomit on the floor...
Don't feel too bad about yourself, not everyone is cut out to be the smartest guy in the room. Good luck with that vomiting thing you got going though.

Scoopie or you or any riggie can post their poker user names so we can see if any are actually winning players, however that request has proven to be almost as futile as asking riggies for proof of their paranoid beliefs. This is why I just try to encourage and grow those paranoid thoughts as a hobby, while apparently making 50 cents a post doing just that.

Cha-ching!

All the best.
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Old 02-08-2010, 01:50 AM   #13221
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Well I feel I have a real heartbeat of the opinion of the busto 2+2 crowd. Thx for sharing guys. I purchased Holdem Manager earlier and Im going to set it up with the luck analizer and then show the comparison of 5 different accounts including my Stars over the next month of play so then we can have some info that we would all be able to agree is valid and cant be disputed by life hating sad sacks that post out of frustration of not being able to profit. In reality nobody knows exactly what Im dealing with on this account and its really hard for you to make the accusations that you so passionatly do. I think when someone thats been a consistant winner for three years on all sites makes an accusation like I have that its best to not to assume that Im just some rigtard complaining about not being able to make money. I make a pretty decent living playing poker and have no worries. I have however found a huge inconsistancy with this account and I think its in everyones best interest that we constantly keep our guard up to investigate anything that seems out of the norm just as the sites do to us so everyone can keep eachother honest.
One fifth of a month's worth of MTT results: with as much data as that, I'm sure we'll all just be blown away with the evidence and be queueing up to apologize for ridiculing you in this thread!

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Old 02-08-2010, 02:17 AM   #13222
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Don't feel too bad about yourself, not everyone is cut out to be the smartest guy in the room. Good luck with that vomiting thing you got going though.

Scoopie or you or any riggie can post their poker user names so we can see if any are actually winning players, however that request has proven to be almost as futile as asking riggies for proof of their paranoid beliefs. This is why I just try to encourage and grow those paranoid thoughts as a hobby, while apparently making 50 cents a post doing just that.

Cha-ching!

All the best.
Oh I see...now I am a "riggie" too. You just get smarter and smarter everytime you post. For such a brilliant guy, you assume far too many things. By the way, nice job changing the subject. You seem to be really good at that.
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Old 02-08-2010, 02:57 AM   #13223
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Where's Jesus? I need a pocket pair and I heard he was good like that.

Is he here?
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Old 02-08-2010, 04:09 AM   #13224
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One fifth of a month's worth of MTT results: with as much data as that, I'm sure we'll all just be blown away with the evidence and be queueing up to apologize for ridiculing you in this thread!

Juk
Are you a mod? Why did you enter this thread attacking me? Isnt there a better way to communicate your thoughts than talking like this to people. IF you think Im wrong just state your opinion in a respectful way. Much more conducive to a learning enviorment which this is. Right?

Like even If I was completely off about my situation or just wrong about anything in general. Do you really think Im going to be able to acknowledge your reasons why when you present them in a hostile fasion? In what facet of life does that approach work? I think if you have honest intentions of explaining to somone why they are wrong then you need to rethink the way in which you present your thoughts. Otherwise you're just a jerk here to talk smack

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Old 02-08-2010, 04:26 AM   #13225
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As it turns out (somewhat ironically) thanks to the 2+2 rng Juk got one of the mocking accounts when he signed up.
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