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Old 02-04-2010, 08:49 PM   #13051
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I would love to see that thread happen...

All right though ill leave it be.
LoL, you don't have to, I wasn't tryin to be rude, I'm just saying it's best left alone for everybody It was a mutual **** up, that costed me a lot more money then 135 dollars...
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Old 02-04-2010, 08:51 PM   #13052
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Echeck issues, no biggie, I stuck up for somebody once to vouch that honest people could have mishaps....
Ok cool
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Old 02-04-2010, 08:51 PM   #13053
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[ ] knows what 'impasse' means
LoL I thought it was a typo!
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Old 02-04-2010, 08:52 PM   #13054
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LoL, you don't have to, I wasn't tryin to be rude, I'm just saying it's best left alone for everybody It was a mutual **** up, that costed me a lot more money then 135 dollars...
I didn't think you were being rude. But i do think you overestimate the damage you could do. Stars when it messes up will usually pay up which makes me think its you who messed up.
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Old 02-04-2010, 08:56 PM   #13055
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Old 02-04-2010, 09:01 PM   #13056
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ok... like i said i wont bring it up again.
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Old 02-04-2010, 09:05 PM   #13057
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what happened?
I probably shouldn't of attacked you, considering your playing at the right place. At the same time, I don't want to impede your progress or destabilize your mental state as you try to reach your 40k goal.
To summerize, my posts are directed to the lower pond scum poker sites.
I'm sure this isn't the case, but just wanted to clearify.
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Old 02-04-2010, 09:13 PM   #13058
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http://www.aolnews.com/world/article...nukes/19345641

Now, what do you think the US will do to prevent this from happening again? Sell the base? Get new owners?

-Basicly, a group of activists jumped a fence, entered a military compound and walked right up to structures that houses nuclear weapons...

(Feb. 4) – A group of peace activists calling themselves "The Bombspotters" spent an unauthorized hour Sunday at a Belgian military base within yards of U.S. nuclear weapons, raising questions about the security of American bombs stored at foreign air bases across Europe.
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Old 02-04-2010, 09:15 PM   #13059
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I probably shouldn't of attacked you, considering your playing at the right place. At the same time, I don't want to impede your progress or destabilize your mental state as you try to reach your 40k goal.
To summerize, my posts are directed to the lower pond scum poker sites.
I'm sure this isn't the case, but just wanted to clearify.
Haha nah that's cool man. I was being a wind up merchant trying to evoke that kind of response anyhow. Got what I deserved Plus I got a pretty thick skin and often find this kind of banter amusing.

Ok cool. I can't speak on behalf of those "lower pond" poker sites because I have never played on those smaller sites.

You seem like your hearts in the right place, GL with the poker.
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Old 02-04-2010, 09:29 PM   #13060
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stupid question time: what's with *********.net ?
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Old 02-04-2010, 09:37 PM   #13061
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stupid question time: what's with *********.net ?
Nothing stupid about that question. They have a referral system b/c they want people that actually use it to advertise it and vouch for it, so people KNOW it's not a "scam." LoL kinda double standard...
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Old 02-04-2010, 09:40 PM   #13062
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That is nonsense. If you can move them, you can erase them. Make a Sticky saying that "rigged!"-threads without extensive statistics are forbidden, and done.

This thread is making fun of 2p2's own members. Self-ownage.
I may disagree with the riggies on a lot of things, but I don't think banning them from voicing their concerns is the right thing to do.
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Old 02-04-2010, 09:45 PM   #13063
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[ ] knows what 'impasse' means
Yeah, it means you think your opinion on that mattered.

It did not.

Hence no impasse.

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2.) If someone actually did come up with real proof, it might be lost in the shuffle which would be a travesty.

Real verifiable proof would be a significant story and would not be piled into this mess of routine conspiracy theories.
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Old 02-04-2010, 10:52 PM   #13064
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I've never been down under, but I'd play with ya and shake your hand. I hope you understand I was just having a bit of Monteroy mockery fun when I asked if you play. I've got the utmost respect for you.

And, Monteroy, don't get pissy about me mocking you. Mockery is the sincerest form of flattery. Isn't that how the saying goes?
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Old 02-04-2010, 10:59 PM   #13065
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MJ, were you working at Stars when the UB/AP scam went down? How'd you get started in the Biz?
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Old 02-04-2010, 11:19 PM   #13066
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Old 02-04-2010, 11:29 PM   #13067
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MJ, were you working at Stars when the UB/AP scam went down?
No, I joined in Feb 2008. I was working as a political adviser to a Member of the House of Representatives at the time.
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I was involved in the AP/UB thing, then got an email from PS asking if I'd ever thought of working in the online poker industry. I said "No" and shortly afterwards, I moved to Sydney and joined their Game Security team.

If you're interested in working for PokerStars they have some vacancies advertised at http://www.pokerstars.com/about/careers/
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Old 02-04-2010, 11:37 PM   #13068
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If you're interested in working for PokerStars they have some vacancies advertised at http://www.pokerstars.com/about/careers/
I would like to apply to the 2p2 shills job so i can get paid for my awesome posts. That or the marketing manager in Ireland because living in Ireland would be pretty cool.
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Old 02-04-2010, 11:59 PM   #13069
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I would like to apply to the 2p2 shills job so i can get paid for my awesome posts. That or the marketing manager in Ireland because living in Ireland would be pretty cool.
lol. I wish I got paid for posting on 2p2. That would make it less of a time sink.

(note, if anyone else wants to pay me for my posts on here, please send money via paypal or pm for other payment methods)
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Old 02-05-2010, 05:56 AM   #13070
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Yeah, it means you think your opinion on that mattered.

It did not.

Hence no impasse.
Well done.

You've just confirmed that you really don't know what impasse means.
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Old 02-05-2010, 05:57 AM   #13071
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I would like to apply to the 2p2 shills job so i can get paid for my awesome posts. That or the marketing manager in Ireland because living in Ireland would be pretty cool.
It is.

I spent three years living in Cork and it was great (if a little wet).
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Old 02-05-2010, 06:06 AM   #13072
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I don't know if all internet poker is rigged, but Full Tilt is just embarrassingly rigged. It's almost comical to watch.
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Old 02-05-2010, 06:11 AM   #13073
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I don't know if all internet poker is rigged, but Full Tilt is just embarrassingly rigged. It's almost comical to watch.
So you'll have no problem providing Evidence, then.

Please post it as soon as possible so that we can get on the case and open up the scandal.
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Old 02-05-2010, 09:04 AM   #13074
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Well done.

You've just confirmed that you really don't know what impasse means.

Definitions of impasse on the Web:

* deadlock: a situation in which no progress can be made or no advancement is possible; "reached an impasse on the negotiations"
* blind alley: a street with only one way in or out

A bargaining impasse occurs when the two sides negotiating an agreement are unable to reach an agreement and become deadlocked. ...



This fellow believes they are at an impasse because they disagree on how this thread should be handled.

Since they are unable to reach an agreement on that issue, technically that is an impasse, but in reality that impasse exists in his mind only as his opinion has zero weight on the topic. It is a totally artificial, meaningless impasse, hence for all intents and purposes in the real world (where I exist) it is not an impasse at all. Hence, my dry comment of

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Less of an impasse as you may think. He has a nice shiny color name. Yours is mundane black like the rest of us. Only control you have is what you choose to read, so if you do not respect twoplustwo for having this thread then either

1) Don't read it

2) Don't visit twoplustwo

3) Write them an email with your opinions. Be less "tricky"

And of course I said specifically "Less of an impasse as you may think." In case any reading comprehension issues linger, that means I acknowledged that technically an "impasse" existed. However, it did not matter.



Using an alley example, if you and an elephant were in an alley walking toward each other with no way to get by each other you would technically be at an impasse when you met up. As the elephant walked over you without pausing for a second you could think about how much of an impasse really was in place from the start.


I know you don't play poker qpw, but pretending you lack common sense with regards to context of language in order to create a personal attack on me is lame even for you. Rare for me to suggest this, but perhaps you should just stick with calling people "******s." That seems to be your niche anyway.

However, you should not react until we decide what you should do next since after all we are at an impasse on that, right?


All the best.

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Old 02-05-2010, 09:05 AM   #13075
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Check my PTR from my last session. Aces, Kings then Queens on dry boards. I 3 bet pre flop on each hand and get flat called each time. No overs come, no draws, very, very dry boards. Each time Villian flops set with underpair and I manage to do a buy in each time.

Then I flop a set of 2s on a A 2 3 flop. You guessed it villian has 45. Bye bye buy in.

This is one of my sessions last night.. Same thing happens to everybody, it is called variance and is normal. There's no-one conspiring against you and nobody has rigged your account. You just have to learn to deal with the swings a bit better. If you really can't deal with a few coolers back to back occassionally you should stop playing poker for a while and read some poker books and theory to understand the game a bit better
LOL...seriously man, don't insult my intelligence. But since you did....I have read more books in the past year than you probably have in your entire life. I have played in multiple wsop events, have you? I have played more hands than you. I play bigger limits than you. I win more than you. And yet YOU are telling me to stop playing and read some poker books. Anytime you would like to give me a lesson, I would be more than happy to take a chunk of your roll.
What I love most about some of you idiots is that anytime someone even makes the slightest of hints about the validity of the online game, you automatically call them a donk and tell them to learn how to play. Read my posts, I DO NOT think its rigged you fool. But some of you have so much arrogance and are so naive that it really just pisses me off.
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