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Originally Posted by Xevoius
I found the variance simulation data very interesting. Thanks for posting a link to that.
Once again, I am not convinced online poker is rigged but my main focus here is discuss the fact that there is very much a possiblity that it could be.
I know I am not a world class player and the first thing I intend to do is do a thourough analysis of my play over the next 5k-10k hands.
The belief that the game is not rigged because all statistical results have fallen within variance for the hands played seems silly. What you might need are hand histories for a large chunk of the playerbase showing all pocket cards to be certain of any tampering with the deal.
This data will never be obtained and makes the "I will pay you X dollars for proof" a total "appeal to ignorance" fallacy.
Definition: In the appeal to ignorance, the arguer basically says, "Look, there's no conclusive evidence on the issue at hand. Therefore, you should accept my conclusion on this issue."
I'll give you the same list of questions I give most riggies
1) If it is rigged (ie: RnG rigged) why has nobody discovered it yet?
2) If it is rigged why has nobody involved in it told yet, including all the people from now closed sites?
3) Why would they care about rigging it against you (which is the basis of most riggie beliefs). Basically, why do you matter that much?
4) Why can riggies see "patterns" that stats freaks cannot prove?
5) Why don't riggies capitalize on their pattern recognition skills?
Basically I try to appeal to common sense, knowing exactly how appealing that concept is to riggies, but I am essentially going with the same approach as I would use with Lizard People.
1) If Lizard People exist why have we not discovered it yet?
2) If Lizard People exist, how have all the people who know about it kept it a secret for so long, including those on deathbeds (where people admit all sorts of stuff)
3) Why would Lizard People care if you knew about them or not?
4) How can guys like David Icke see patterns of Lizard People behavior that others cannot
5) Hey, at least David Icke made a ton of money peddling his beliefs, so props to a lizzie (ie: lizard person riggie) that actually made something of his beliefs.
Same thing, only at least the Lizard Person guy made some money from his beliefs. Good for him.
I opt for Lizard People given the choices. They are more fun.
All the best.