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Old 01-16-2010, 10:55 AM   #12126
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I am still and currently reading the information provided by the kind persons here.

To taunt me with betting is insane. I don't gamble where there is not an advantage and I have no idea on what the code is so there is hidden knowledge from me.

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The betting discussion involves twomoos. None of that was directed at you.
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Old 01-16-2010, 11:22 AM   #12127
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OK I was not clear.

Threre is some people who speak in code and secrets. Inside language i am not partial to.

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Old 01-16-2010, 11:37 AM   #12128
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Can you understand why people do not really take that as a cast iron guarantee when it comes from someone with a post count of 50?
Yeah, I understand that. So forget the bet. I'll let you know how it works out.
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Old 01-16-2010, 11:53 AM   #12129
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https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/15...nt-act-685943/

BTW, it's coming.....

key word: Consumer-Protection....

Since most of you are so stuck on paranoia and lizard people, how about you go to that thread and tell the PPA why "there is no need..." like you've been telling me..
There wouldn't of been any need if it wasn't for uigea.
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Old 01-16-2010, 12:16 PM   #12130
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Actually, nobody has taken this rigtard up on the bet I proposed. There have been some counterproposals and a lot of insults, but nobody has taken the prop bet even though I made it attractive.

BTW, make it easy. I play on PStars all the time, no need to escrow. If you don't trust me, obviously don't take the bet. But I'll make it a little more attractive. If you lose the first bet, I'll automatically give you another chance and you don't have to pay anything until the second bet is complete.

The way I handle casual bets is with trust. If trust is betrayed, I don't make any more props with that guy.
Shrug whatever, fine , I'll do that bet, but again you cannot be in control of the data yourself. Also, we both transfer the bet amounts beforehand to someone like spadebidder or Bobo who is trustworthy. You send $100 , I send $50. Otherwise, pass because to be blunt, I don't trust you one bit, why should I, and a degen like you will just use this as a freeroll otherwise.

If you lose he sends me the $100, if I lose we do the bet again, and if I lose again we send you $100. If I win the second bet we both get our money back.

Josem will arrange to zip your hand histories (2000 of them) after a certain point of agreed time to send to you, myself and spade, and spade can do the math analysis of them and present the data.

Honestly, I don't think this is worth any of their time, it certainly is not worth mine, and it will not prove a thing about your beliefs of if it is rigged, but I am hoping they will help purely because this may be the best way to deal with a whiny degen like yourself who is willing to spew money in terms of EV.

Tell me if the above works and then we will see if others agree to it as well.

All the best.
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Old 01-16-2010, 12:30 PM   #12131
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This is the most ******ed and flawed post I've read in 2 years of reading 2+2.
Presumably you read about as frequently as you post.

Or you habituate a different forum.
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Old 01-16-2010, 12:45 PM   #12132
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I just did a manual hand analysis of how I busted in the last 100 tournaments on one of the big sites. Here is what I have found...

24 times I had the larger stack dominated and lost

48 times I was in a coin flip situation and lost to the larger stack

6 times I was all in against a bigger pair, KK vs AA, etc.

The rest was short stack desparation and tilt play.
OK, so that covers the hands where you lost. Did you count the times that you won?
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Old 01-16-2010, 01:03 PM   #12133
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This is the most ******ed and flawed post I've read in 2 years of reading 2+2.
Why?
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Old 01-16-2010, 01:05 PM   #12134
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Why?
You wouldn't understand if we explained it.

In words of one syllable.

Even with pictures.
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Old 01-16-2010, 01:12 PM   #12135
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Men who do not defend truth and rumor are suspect. What is your agenda and what is your gain.

I once was in a cardgame that had a dealer dealing dirty. It was told to me after. He had been delt with. But i was unaware of it at the time and would my voice of suspicions been treated unkindly i might have left that game sooner. Even though he was only working partners i think i had lost money to him.

THis is years ago and so it no longer bothers me. BUT


I will voice protest to what i find is highly suspect and strangle odd outcomes.


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Old 01-16-2010, 01:13 PM   #12136
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You wouldn't understand if we explained it.

In words of one syllable.

Even with pictures.
Your right...I've been too busy reading the "Consumer Protection Act" that's gonna put your trolling out of business....
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Old 01-16-2010, 01:19 PM   #12137
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Your right...
It's my right to do what, exactly?

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I've been too busy reading the "Consumer Protection Act" that's gonna put your defense against trolling out of business....

Dream on.

Do you really think that, even if the vague possibility of that bill ever being passed is fulfilled, it will stop 'tards such as yourself whining about sites being rigged.


BTW, FYP.
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Old 01-16-2010, 01:20 PM   #12138
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There wouldn't of been any need if it wasn't for uigea.
There wouldnt be any need for UIGEA if these Poker Sites weren't trying to hide anything when they were called upon.....

So they got accused of aiding Terrorism, money laundering and organized crime....

Wait till you see what sites will have to do to be granted a license....

That's inside info tho
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Old 01-16-2010, 01:20 PM   #12139
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Old 01-16-2010, 01:22 PM   #12140
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It's my right to do what, exactly?




Dream on.

Do you really think that, even if the vague possibility of that bill ever being passed is fulfilled, it will stop 'tards such as yourself whining about sites being rigged.


BTW, FYP.
You're correct.

But yes, I'm positive it will be passed, it was going to be passed from the beginning of all this UIGEA....

Yes it will stop rigtards...all I can say I guess....
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Old 01-16-2010, 01:24 PM   #12141
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There wouldnt be any need for UIGEA if these Poker Sites weren't trying to hide anything when they were called upon.....
Wrong.

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So they got accused of aiding Terrorism, money laundering and organized crime....
No they didn't.

At least not by anyone of any importance.

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Wait till you see what sites will have to do to be granted a license....

That's inside info tho
And as such something that is certainly not available to you.
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Old 01-16-2010, 01:26 PM   #12142
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You're correct.
Good so far.

The Only trouble is that that means that:

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But yes, I'm positive it will be passed, it was going to be passed from the beginning of all this UIGEA....

Yes it will stop rigtards...all I can say I guess....
Is wrong.

Still, 33% is better than your normal score.



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But yes, I'm positive it will be passed, it was going to be passed from the beginning of all this UIGEA....
You have to wonder why the US bothers with a president, house of representatives and senate when all they need to do is ask tk1133.
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Old 01-16-2010, 02:16 PM   #12143
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Good so far.

The Only trouble is that that means that:



Is wrong.

Still, 33% is better than your normal score.



BTW:


You have to wonder why the US bothers with a president, house of representatives and senate when all they need to do is ask tk1133.
Or maybe, I asked the man, that shook the hand of the man of one of the 3 that you mentioned...
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Old 01-16-2010, 02:40 PM   #12144
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Or maybe, I asked the man, that shook the hand of the man of one of the 3 that you mentioned...
I only mentioned one man.

When are you going to learn basic English?
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Old 01-16-2010, 02:41 PM   #12145
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I only mentioned one man.

When are you going to learn basic English?
So a Senator, HoR and the President are all one man?

When are you going to start playing Poker?
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Old 01-16-2010, 03:34 PM   #12146
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Actually, nobody has taken this rigtard up on the bet I proposed. There have been some counterproposals and a lot of insults, but nobody has taken the prop bet even though I made it attractive.
Apparently you missed the post where I accepted, but simply stated that we'd have to have an escrow and a credible way to obtain and analyze the data.

EDIT: Reading further Monteroy basically did the exact same thing, although we're both in agreement that it wouldn't prove anything.

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Old 01-16-2010, 05:07 PM   #12147
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You're correct.

But yes, I'm positive it will be passed, it was going to be passed from the beginning of all this UIGEA....
I hope your political insider has more knowledge then last time you made a prediction.

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Yes it will stop rigtards...all I can say I guess....

There might be less but there will always be people who think pokers rigged.
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Old 01-16-2010, 06:59 PM   #12148
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QPW everytime I come back to read this thread your posts in particular make me angry... You honestly sound like you have some real-life insecurity/psychological problems so you come on here to vent and try and improve your ego
Now go ahead and call me a rigtard and try and be funny to impress kingoffelt and monteroy.. but your agenda is already pretty obvious here in this thread
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Old 01-16-2010, 07:00 PM   #12149
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QPW everytime I come back to read this thread your posts in particular make me angry... You honestly sound like you have some real-life insecurity/psychological problems so you come on here to vent and try and improve your ego
Now go ahead and call me a rigtard and try and be funny to impress kingoffelt and monteroy.. but your agenda is already pretty obvious here in this thread
Hey R4R, what do you think of spadebidder's study results so far?
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Old 01-16-2010, 07:17 PM   #12150
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I have only read the action flop section so far. But like I said before, his findings are irrelevant to me..

I never denied the fact the statistics would be on point.. It has nothing to do with my theory of "timing".. In this theory, action flops DO exist.. but at specific times based on a users account history/past actions..
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