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Old 04-02-2009, 03:31 AM   #1176
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Re: Friend of Mine used to work for FTP

Hmm let's see what our OP has to say 6 months ago


"I think just the opposite...Ive been playing on Full Tilt SNGs for the past month. I am still an overall winner on Full Tilt about 10% ROI 750+ games on Full Tilt but the ones Ive lost have been so super shady. I lose so many in a row on Full Tilt all due to shady beats, I am convinced Full Tilt is Rigged. Plus the constant site crashes over the past week, their non-support and they wont let me cash out so I have to transfer to Stars to cash out my winnings. Full Tilt is such a shady site it's not even funny. I cant wait to go back to PokerStars tomorrow."



Gotta say I'm impressed that he figured this out 6 months before his friend officially broke the news.
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Old 04-02-2009, 03:36 AM   #1177
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and they wont let me cash out
Don't know about you but if I had a friend of 20 years standing on the site I may just have given him a quick call
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Old 04-02-2009, 03:37 AM   #1178
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can i prove it? no

do i think it exists? yes

where there is gambling there is greed, where there is greed there is cheating.
Thats wise stuff.
You must really know about socrates.
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Old 04-02-2009, 03:37 AM   #1179
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can i prove it? no

do i think it exists? yes

where there is gambling there is greed, where there is greed there is cheating.
Sure.

But what you're talking about and what the OP is talking about is totally different.

OP is stating that FTP is cheating.

You're stating, correct me if I'm wrong, that players are cheating.

Huge difference. Just like in a B&M, you'll have players that try to cheat. That's a given. What OP is saying here, is that the house is cheating. That's where the difference lies.

As far as claiming other posters to be "naive" because they're questioning the OP's claims... would it be better if everybody just turns over on their backs and agrees with him? I seriously don't think that people are so naive as to negate the heavy possibility that there could be cheating that happens in the game of poker. But I do think that many people HAVE come to a conclusion that it wouldn't be... how would you say it... "+EV"... for companies like FTP to do so. There's just too much to risk for so little in return. These companies make their money off of rake, not off of petty schemes.

Can I prove that FTP is NOT cheating? No.

Do I think they WOULD cheat? No.

Do I think that players cheat? All the time, as long as they still have that opportunity.

Do I think FTP would take measures to counteract cheating? Of course. If the environment isn't safe for their customers, if they have a bad reputation for being unable and unwilling to identify and eradicate platforms of cheating, they'll ultimately lose their bottom line: customers.

Where there is gambling there is greed. Where there is greed there is cheating. I certainly understand that the good old folks at Full Tilt/PokerStars, etc. aren't my best friends and that their primary goal is to gain as much money from me as possible. But I also understand that, because of this, they would do all that they can in their power to ensure that cheaters aren't the cause for me to take my business elsewhere.

Make sense?
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Old 04-02-2009, 03:38 AM   #1180
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Re: Friend of Mine used to work for FTP

lock this POS thread
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Old 04-02-2009, 03:40 AM   #1181
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Make sense?
Nothing really makes sense to a paranoid fool.
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Old 04-02-2009, 03:41 AM   #1182
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my god- it's full of hole cards.
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Old 04-02-2009, 03:42 AM   #1183
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Nothing really makes sense to a paranoid fool.
Who said that, Aristotle?
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Old 04-02-2009, 03:53 AM   #1184
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Who said that, Aristotle?
Do you mean areeztotle?
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Old 04-02-2009, 03:54 AM   #1185
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my god- it's full of hole cards.
haha nice ref
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Old 04-02-2009, 03:54 AM   #1186
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Do you mean areeztotle?
LMAO... touche.
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Old 04-02-2009, 04:34 AM   #1187
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yes it is rigged, the random deal is is set up b4 hand to make certain players win.
I think most sites make certain players win.

If the dealer won it would look very suspicious.
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Old 04-02-2009, 04:36 AM   #1188
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Who said that, Aristotle?
I thought is was Mr T.
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Old 04-02-2009, 04:40 AM   #1189
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one thing i dont understand is how some people on here think that comparing the thought of an online poker site be rigged or something of the possibility of someone having a program to see other players hole cards gets compared to conspiracy theories and aliens and other weird ****.
It's not that no site could ever be rigged it's just that there is absolutely no evidence that any site is or has been rigged (in terms of the deal).

When the superuser scandal broke malfeasance was accepted as soon as credible proof was offered.
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Old 04-02-2009, 04:44 AM   #1190
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i really think the intellectual level on this board is far lower than that of regular society
So true.

The rigtards pull the level here down to zilch.

But then rigtards are recruited from the shallow end of the gene pool.
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Old 04-02-2009, 05:04 AM   #1191
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Re: Friend of Mine used to work for FTP

Quick question for AAAj - what country did your friend live when he worked in FTP Operations?

nobody help him
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Old 04-02-2009, 05:08 AM   #1192
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Old 04-02-2009, 05:10 AM   #1193
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She's cute.
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Old 04-02-2009, 05:42 AM   #1194
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Old 04-02-2009, 05:52 AM   #1195
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Re: The great "Poker is rigged debate"

I don't like the way these rigged threads are getting lumped together. It is devaluing the efforts of the warriors seeking truth and justice.
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Old 04-02-2009, 05:58 AM   #1196
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Good heavens!

It's the entity that is the mother of all the rigtards.

Caught on film and delivered to your PC by the wonderful internet.
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Old 04-02-2009, 06:37 AM   #1197
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You'r so right....
got to be those 5max table...
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Old 04-02-2009, 07:06 AM   #1198
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he means reg tagfish
like me!

o... wait.

b2b is rubbish nowadays. No fish for miles at 200nl.
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Old 04-02-2009, 08:30 AM   #1199
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Re: Friend of Mine used to work for FTP

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stating that a particular online card room is outright cheating and skimming money off of regular customers
can i prove it? no

do i think it exists? yes

where there is gambling there is greed, where there is greed there is cheating.
Except the poker site isn't gambling or playing against the players, they are just charging for providing the game. So that logic is out the window. If this thread was about players cheating you might have something there.
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Old 04-02-2009, 09:26 AM   #1200
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Re: The great "Poker is rigged debate"

I guess we're bad players and ******s for losing consistantly when we're over an 80 percent favorite to win...that solves it for me. I shoulda known...
Your propaganda....hahaha...I've seen so many numerous threads asking all these adament users if they work for poker sites themselves. I've said it as well...I feel we have some bias opinions here to try to protect something? B/c according to all of you, Online poker is impossible to rig.
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