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The great "Poker is rigged" debate - Collected threads edition

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04-01-2009 , 10:38 PM

#1126

Mylife0115

old hand

Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 1,753

you need to list facts to support your claim very soon...so far you just make statement...

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04-01-2009 , 10:40 PM

#1127

alexander7179

banned

Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 2,831

so why would they cheat again? they dont make enough from the rake so they try to generate more action?

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04-01-2009 , 10:41 PM

#1128

sixers030409

banned

Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 949

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Originally Posted by AAAj

another thing, he mentioned is that they have caught numerous users with a program that can see hole cards. They did however confiscate their money for cheating, but he also siad there is a possibility of 1000s more having this program. and there is not much they can do about it now.

lol

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04-01-2009 , 10:42 PM

#1129

DMoogle

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 7,243

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Originally Posted by sixers030409

lol

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04-01-2009 , 10:44 PM

#1130

gtpitch

making sick bumps

Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 33,706

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Originally Posted by DMoogle

lol

lollerskates

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04-01-2009 , 10:45 PM

#1131

AAAj

centurion

Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 117

YEA LOL....Im sure you were LOLing during time of absolute/UB scandal. I'll admit I dont have the facts. Im just relaying the information I was told, from a friend of mine I known for 20+years. Who has worked for FTP for about 4 years. Who has extensive programming knowledge, and management experience over at FTP. Also, he is not the type to april fools joke anyone. He basically said, be ready to have this be blown wide open in a very short time. Laugh now. But, from now on I will play only on STARS. If I choose to play at all.

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04-01-2009 , 10:47 PM

#1132

spadebidder

Actually Shows Proof

Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 7,905

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Originally Posted by AAAj

YEA LOL....Im sure you were LOLing during time of absolute/UB scandal.

There was no rigged deal there, and there has never been one discovered at any poker site. Insiders cheating is different. You said that they had caught "users" with some program to see hole cards, and unless you specifically meant insiders, that statement totally destroyed any credibility in your statements (or your friend's if you truly believe him). I still say if you are not playing the April Fool joke, then he is playing it on you.

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04-01-2009 , 10:49 PM

#1133

IceMountain

banned

Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 5,348

There is a less then .0000000000000000000000000001 % chance that anything OP is saying regarding Full Tilt is true in this thread.

Ship it to NVG or lock it up IMO

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04-01-2009 , 10:50 PM

#1134

AAAj

centurion

Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 117

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Originally Posted by spadebidder

There was no rigged deal there, and there has never been one discovered at any poker site. Insiders cheating is different. You said that they had caught "users" with some program to see hole cards, unless you specifically meant insiders, that statement totally destroyed any credibility in your statements (or your friend's if you truly believe him). I still say if you are not playing the joke, then he is playing it on you.

I also said in ealier post on this thread, that he said employees of FTP play on the site while knowing the hole cards.......The other users that can see is something different, but it is happening to this day. I dont know about other sites. But, definately on FTP.

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04-01-2009 , 10:50 PM

#1135

AAAj

centurion

Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 117

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Originally Posted by IceMountain

There is a less then .0000000000000000000000000001 % chance that anything OP is saying regarding Full Tilt is true in this thread.

Ship it to NVG or lock it up IMO

Go **** yourself ******

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04-01-2009 , 10:51 PM

#1136

dbcooper279

old hand

Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 1,678

lol, can't wait for a /april fools coming.

OP, if FTP was rigged, the 2+2 community would have figured it out, just as they did the AP/UB scandal.

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04-01-2009 , 10:52 PM

#1137

AAAj

centurion

Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 117

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Originally Posted by dbcooper279

lol, can't wait for a /april fools coming.

OP, if FTP was rigged, the 2+2 community would have figured it out, just as they did the AP/UB scandal.

Took the Star Wars Geeks (oh I mean 2+2 users) a few years to figure out the AP/UB scandal. and even then they were loling and accusing poster of lying. I remember the threads vividly. Same thing here

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04-01-2009 , 11:00 PM

#1138

spadebidder

Actually Shows Proof

Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 7,905

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Originally Posted by AAAj

Please show me where people were LOLing and mocking in those threads:
http://archives1.twoplustwo.com/show...umber=12075548

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/19...-stolen-99247/

and then explain how you vividly remember it when it was before your join date. BTW it took about 2 months to get an official investigation started, not "a few years".

Last edited by spadebidder; 04-01-2009 at 11:05 PM. Reason: added original thread

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04-01-2009 , 11:03 PM

#1139

Chips Ahoy

help me help you

Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 28,869

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Originally Posted by AAAj

yes it is rigged, the random deal is is set up b4 hand to make certain players win.
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people that work for FTP playing on the site... They can see hole cards too.
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Originally Posted by AAAj

Even though there are winning players, he said they make it so that they dont win as much as they should.
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He also states even if you have an edge...they can make it so you lose over long run.
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Originally Posted by AAAj

another thing, he mentioned is that they have caught numerous users with a program that can see hole cards. They did however confiscate their money for cheating, but he also siad there is a possibility of 1000s more having this program. and there is not much they can do about it now.

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Originally Posted by AAAj

a friend of mine I known for 20+years. Who has worked for FTP for about 4 years. Who has extensive programming knowledge, and management experience over at FTP.

Pro tip: When making up an insider blowing the whistle -- confirm one rigtard theory, not all of them.

Last edited by Chips Ahoy; 04-01-2009 at 11:04 PM. Reason: Travis, you're years too late.

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04-01-2009 , 11:03 PM

#1140

LeapFrog

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 5,538

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Originally Posted by AAAj

...but he also siad there is a possibility of 1000s more having this program. and there is not much they can do about it now.

Yes, they own the servers and the software but there is nothing they can do about it. Does this program use some weird quantum tunneling to grab the holecard electrons out of the server while the hand is in progress?

This is just like the UB/AP scandal.

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04-01-2009 , 11:05 PM

#1141

LeapFrog

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 5,538

****ing lizard people just banned OP so they can keep their monopoly on FTL communications

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04-01-2009 , 11:08 PM

#1142

spadebidder

Actually Shows Proof

Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 7,905

Why is he banned, whether this is a level or not, or maybe his friend is playing a joke on him? Thread could have gotten good.

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04-01-2009 , 11:14 PM

#1143

jukofyork

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 11,749

LOL. Can we have an April Rigtards' day too?

Juk

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04-01-2009 , 11:19 PM

#1144

bamsky

journeyman

Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 379

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Originally Posted by AAAj

I cant even begin to repeat the technical stuff he said. Bunch of programming lingo. He was high level in operations there. Although he did end up leaving abruptly over some kind of problem with management. He basically told me that ....yes it is rigged, the random deal is is set up b4 hand to make certain players win. Not on ALL hands, but on certain hands. He also mentioned something about people that work for FTP playing on the site. Mostly Med. levels. They can see hole cards too. Maybe ill get him to post here tomorrow.

BTW...not an april fools thing if thats what youre thinking

Yeah right

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04-01-2009 , 11:23 PM

#1145

Ben1113

adept

Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 1,028

duh,
we'll know in a few weeks when this thing is blown wide open.

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04-01-2009 , 11:29 PM

#1146

TheCanoe

lazy degen

Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 11,672

I knew it.

I knew tilt was rigged.

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04-01-2009 , 11:29 PM

#1147

fairewin

centurion

Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 185

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Originally Posted by AAAj

Im low limit player. Im acually up overall there. He came back earlier today and told me all this stuff. After hearing I just went and donked off my last $75 without care. Now I will NEVER deposit there again, after hearing what he told me. Basically comfirms my suspicion on FTP being unfair game especially. Even though there are winning players, he said they make it so that they dont win as much as they should. He also states even if you have an edge...they can make it so you lose over long run. He has worked there for 4 years and quit last week. Ill talk to him some more and try to get clearer details.

That didn't seem like a good decision -- you found out the game was rigged so you a) played anyway and b) played worse than normal on purpose?? Why didn't you just cash out.

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04-01-2009 , 11:30 PM

#1148

Powers_That_Be

adept

Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 978

I didn't hit my set. rigged imo

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04-01-2009 , 11:37 PM

#1149

Mike Haven

Moderotor of Moderots

Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 14,548

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Originally Posted by spadebidder

Why is he banned, whether this is a level or not, or maybe his friend is playing a joke on him? Thread could have gotten good.

He's only banned for two days. Keeps the suspense going, imo.

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04-01-2009 , 11:40 PM

#1150

jukofyork

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 11,749

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Originally Posted by fairewin

That didn't seem like a good decision -- you found out the game was rigged so you a) played anyway and b) played worse than normal on purpose?? Why didn't you just cash out.

Because he lost his moniez BEFORE his "friend" told him about the FTP rigging?

Juk

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