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Old 12-22-2009, 02:12 PM   #11376
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He means by a credible source (like a u.s. agency).
You mean a 'u.s. agency' such as those that were responsible for regulating Worldcom, Enron or Lehman Brothers?

Not a great deal of credibility there.

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You never understand things until people explain them to you
Well, when people make nonsensical statements everybody needs the 'explained'.

Of course, in the case of you and tk1133 even whne pooling your pathetically limited resourse you are still managing to spout nothing but nonsense.
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Old 12-22-2009, 02:23 PM   #11377
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You mean a 'u.s. agency' such as those that were responsible for regulating Worldcom, Enron or Lehman Brothers?

Not a great deal of credibility there.

I agree. I however need to know that there is some sort of credible regulation and monitoring in place especially when we are dealing with commerce over the internet. Based on the direction the economy has been headed here in the U.S. lately, I am not so sure our own agencies wouldnt fall asleep at the switch again. We will see because it looks like hosting online poker is going to be legalized, taxed and regulated inside of the U.S. borders in the not too distant future. Should be interesting to see how that all turns out.
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Old 12-22-2009, 02:33 PM   #11378
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You mean a 'u.s. agency' such as those that were responsible for regulating Worldcom, Enron or Lehman Brothers?

Not a great deal of credibility there.
Obviously I have already taken this into account.. We discussed this a while ago.

Point being - I'd trust a U.S. agency over any other agency in this particular situation.
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Old 12-22-2009, 02:37 PM   #11379
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I agree. I however need to know that there is some sort of credible regulation and monitoring in place especially when we are dealing with commerce over the internet. Based on the direction the economy has been headed here in the U.S. lately, I am not so sure our own agencies wouldnt fall asleep at the switch again. We will see because it looks like hosting online poker is going to be legalized, taxed and regulated inside of the U.S. borders in the not too distant future. Should be interesting to see how that all turns out.
Regulation is the USA would be a great thing in my opinion; however, not because it would make the game "less likely to be rigged", but rather because it would make it a lot easier for Americans to deposit and a lot more casual "fish" who still think it is illegal to play would join in on the games.

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Obviously I have already taken this into account.. We discussed this a while ago.

Point being - I'd trust a U.S. agency over any other agency in this particular situation.
Yeah, but see, not everyone is a Xenophobe.
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Old 12-22-2009, 02:42 PM   #11380
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Point being - I'd trust a U.S. agency over any other agency in this particular situation.
Yes, but you are a known idiot so, really, who cares who you'd trust?
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Old 12-22-2009, 03:06 PM   #11381
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QPW, i'm just glad you got the point he was trying to make, I know its hard for you to comprehend certain things but atleast we dont have to put up with anymore of your off-topic questions and comments ...

btw, do you realize you have not stopped posting in this thread since it started my man? what have you accomplished, i'd like to know?? all this time spent in here you could have spent out workin or doing somethin with your life
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Old 12-22-2009, 03:10 PM   #11382
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Regulation is the USA would be a great thing in my opinion; however, not because it would make the game "less likely to be rigged", but rather because it would make it a lot easier for Americans to deposit and a lot more casual "fish" who still think it is illegal to play would join in on the games.

Very true, although a larger country with more resources and easy access to state of the art technology sounds like a good start as it pertains to supervision. It doesnt guarantee that someone isnt going to find a way to work the system though and it also doesnt guarantee that the people using the technology are going to care enough about their tax payers and customers to do the best possible job at protecting them from fraudulent activity.
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QPW, i'm just glad you got the point he was trying to make I know its hard for you to comprehend certain things but atleast we dont have to put up with anymore of your off-topic questions and comments ...
What is the above gibberish supposed to mean?

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That is an out and out lie.

There have been significant periods when I did not post.

I suppose you don't really need to worry about losing credibility by posting fabrications an untruths since you have not had any credibility for a very long time, now.
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Old 12-22-2009, 03:16 PM   #11384
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Very true, although a larger country with more resources and easy access to state of the art technology sounds like a good start as it pertains to supervision.
It might sound like a good start but as has been proven time and again that doesn't necessarily mean it is.
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Old 12-22-2009, 03:28 PM   #11385
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Very true, although a larger country with more resources and easy access to state of the art technology sounds like a good start as it pertains to supervision. It doesnt guarantee that someone isnt going to find a way to work the system though and it also doesnt guarantee that the people using the technology are going to care enough about their tax payers and customers to do the best possible job at protecting them from fraudulent activity.
What state of the art technology are you referring to?
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Old 12-22-2009, 03:30 PM   #11386
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What state of the art technology are you referring to?
calculators and stuff... though they're made in china
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What state of the art technology are you referring to?
He's probably refering to transistors or some other such stuff that countries in Europe, Asia and South America don't have access to yet.
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Old 12-22-2009, 03:44 PM   #11388
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Does anyone still think the US is the world leader in technology? lol

And I live there. Malaysia is ahead of us for god's sake. We no longer make the best cars, the best electronics, the best machinery, ummm come to think of it what do we still make the best?

Oh yeah, we have the iPhone. That's pretty cool. Maybe Steve Jobs can run online poker.
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It might sound like a good start but as has been proven time and again that doesn't necessarily mean it is.
Very true. But more options online will mean more competion. Competion is good for the market place for the consumer.
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Old 12-22-2009, 03:56 PM   #11390
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What state of the art technology are you referring to?
Easy access doesnt mean that it has to be built in this country. Look at all of the technology used in the big casinos in Vegas. If online poker is legalized here, I am sure some of the BIG casinos are going to get involved. Resources in this case would mean BIG money.
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Oh yeah, we have the iPhone. That's pretty cool. Maybe Steve Jobs can run online poker.
Please, I want to be able to play poker on my Iphone.
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Easy access doesnt mean that it has to be built in this country. Look at all of the technology used in the big casinos in Vegas. If online poker is legalized here, I am sure some of the BIG casinos are going to get involved. Resources in this case would mean BIG money.
What type of technology do you think they use in Monte Carlo?
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Oh yeah, we have the iPhone. That's pretty cool. Maybe Steve Jobs can run online poker.
LOL, yes.

The rake would triple but the tables would be extra thin and have lovely brushed aluminium edges.
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What type of technology do you think they use in Monte Carlo?
I havent been there yet. Do they want to run an online poker site? How are the laws in that country and what would the regulation look like? lol
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What type of technology do you think they use in Monte Carlo?
Forbes list of the world's 10 best casinos (Monaco is on it) has just 2 in the US.
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I havent been there yet. Do they want to run an online poker site? How are the laws in that country and what would the regulation look like? lol
If you cheat in Monaco, the police drive you to the French border and dump you out and tell if you ever come back they will kill you. And they mean it. The place is run by a Prince, it ain't a democracy.
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I havent been there yet. Do they want to run an online poker site? How are the laws in that country and what would the regulation look like? lol
Online gambling is generally far more accepted in Europe than in the US. I'm just pointing out that your argument that regulation in the US would provide better technology is severely flawed.
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What is the above gibberish supposed to mean?



That is an out and out lie.

There have been significant periods when I did not post.

I suppose you don't really need to worry about losing credibility by posting fabrications an untruths since you have not had any credibility for a very long time, now.
I find him way more credible then you...

That being said....You mentioned Enron and Maddoff ect...

How did they get caught? Ok. Your arguement is that Enron and Maddoff swindled billions of dollars, under a similiar US regulation that is proposed for online poke. The Gov't was forced to launch an investigation, gave the offenders a slap on the wrist and made them promise to never do it again.

Imagine seeing Maddoff walking around Wallstreet, trying to buy stock...(Russ Hamilton still showing his face around casino's...)

Was it an online forum that exposed Enron and Maddoff?
Online poker is basicly policed by other players. What are the players gonna do to an online poker site other then black ball them? And tell everybody not to play there?

-Enron and Maddoff suffered consequences and all their assetts seized.

-UB/AP volenteered to pay back cheated players, $26 million? How much was stolen and by whom?

-Pitbull Poker, they're out of business...but....?
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If you cheat in Monaco, the police drive you to the French border and dump you out and tell if you ever come back they will kill you. And they mean it. The place is run by a Prince, it ain't a democracy.
No thank you then. Although, not sure what America is any longer, probably the United States of Socialist America? lol
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I find him way more credible then you...
Thank you, that is a great comfort.

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How did they get caught? Ok. Your arguement is that Enron and Maddoff swindled billions of dollars, under a similiar US regulation that is proposed for online poke.
Yup.

They simply proved that they are no more competent than the regulatory authorities in any other jurisdiction.
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