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Old 12-20-2009, 08:10 PM   #11301
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Could you please verify that information, because as I said none database beggining with X is being told to be trusted. Bestly and mostly I would like get some password verification as my investigation AND the german is still going on. I repeat, its from a random poker room perhaps FTP or some other room like that.
Verily the information that is being telled to yourself is verified at the highest level and the password has been officially passed but from a random poker site and the base that we are owned is even higher than that.

So, certainly the data that is coming (if in date for time) and you can tell it to be not finite and even with small confidence.

Hope that helps.
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Old 12-20-2009, 08:15 PM   #11302
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Now that HAS to be a level!


I was outraged and ashamed after hearing about some of online poker's latest manipulations. If you disagree with my claim that we have been lied to, distracted, misled, and duped by online poker, then read no further. Here's a specific example of the way in which online poker's philippics stink to high heaven: It wants to view countries and the people that live in them either as economic targets to be exploited or as military targets to be defeated. Finally, any mistakes in this post are not my fault. But if you find any factual error or have more updated information on the subject of online poker manopulations, online poker-inspired versions of larrikinism, online poker rigged etc., please tell me so I can write an even stronger post next time.
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Old 12-20-2009, 08:21 PM   #11303
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Verily the information that is being telled to yourself is verified at the highest level and the password has been officially passed but from a random poker site and the base that we are owned is even higher than that.

So, certainly the data that is coming (if in date for time) and you can tell it to be not finite and even with small confidence.

Hope that helps.
Thanks for your cooperation and hard work for now. I will keep my mostly and bestly strugle to find peace in the world, together with the german, the londonian and the ancient crew.
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Old 12-20-2009, 08:31 PM   #11304
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Deep End: Toltec has gone off it.
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Old 12-20-2009, 08:46 PM   #11305
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god bless you, toltec, for making me smile today!

Should very earnestly adopt all goals, the military or the economy, by any country (zone). I hope that my country (zone) (area) does not cause you to feel the pain. I think that the most Americans do not think other bad question world human resources departments. I hope that we probably completely obtain with the function poker, does not use the execution for the bad question our one day-long poker site.
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Old 12-20-2009, 10:15 PM   #11306
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Finally some sensible posts ITT. Well done.
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Old 12-21-2009, 05:08 AM   #11307
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Finally some sensible posts ITT. Well done.
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Old 12-21-2009, 06:00 AM   #11308
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Old 12-21-2009, 06:12 AM   #11309
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Verily the information that is being telled to yourself is verified at the highest level and the password has been officially passed but from a random poker site and the base that we are owned is even higher than that.

So, certainly the data that is coming (if in date for time) and you can tell it to be not finite and even with small confidence.

Hope that helps.
no, you am failing his point. regard me to clarification:

I am the somebody from the pokers in the line, the H or THERE it is certain, because his this that of equipment of proof it has been compensated, if Niger, in Germany nor London. perhaps his record keepings of datum that are still in the process of treatment of conference can other countries spoil but we can't never know unless why has posted statistician. this it isn't easy in order to it proves the safety of pokers in the line with access only in that is given histories, no one essentially they examine the arbitrary central computers in the countries third world.

makes more more sensory to my. imo.
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Old 12-21-2009, 06:24 AM   #11310
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no, you am failing his point. regard me to clarification:

I am the somebody from the pokers in the line, the H or THERE it is certain, because his this that of equipment of proof it has been compensated, if Niger, in Germany nor London. perhaps his record keepings of datum that are still in the process of treatment of conference can other countries spoil but we can't never know unless why has posted statistician. this it isn't easy in order to it proves the safety of pokers in the line with access only in that is given histories, no one essentially they examine the arbitrary central computers in the countries third world.

makes more more sensory to my. imo.
Thanks for clearing that up.

I think I was on the right track but having read the above I think that's a far more accurate and, indeed, prescient answer..
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Old 12-21-2009, 06:40 AM   #11311
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What is this website that you guys are using to do this? I have a suspicion that a chunk of people who email me use this service too, so I'd like to reverse it.
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Old 12-21-2009, 06:57 AM   #11312
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What is this website that you guys are using to do this? I have a suspicion that a chunk of people who email me use this service too, so I'd like to reverse it.
Website?

This is hand crafted!
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Old 12-21-2009, 10:37 AM   #11313
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What is this website that you guys are using to do this? I have a suspicion that a chunk of people who email me use this service too, so I'd like to reverse it.
I just throw normal writing into a translator and run it through a few languages and then back into English.

becomes>> Throwing necessarily the normal letter in a translator and I make it to run of return some languages and then in English.

that was English->German->French->Portuguese->English
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Old 12-21-2009, 10:57 AM   #11314
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Is this some kind of organic deck?

Heavy to play with but much better for you.



You should have learned to play.
I learned better things
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Old 12-21-2009, 12:01 PM   #11315
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I want to make a serious post now. OK?
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Old 12-21-2009, 01:54 PM   #11316
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I can't say one way or another if internet poker is rigged, but intuitively from my own experience its hard to say definitively that its not. My argument would be that from a software perspective it would be incredibly easy to weight certain probability outcomes in certain directions and from a business perspective highly profitable to do so for new players....I have been playing online for 5 years and the first night I played (with very very little knowledge of the game) I turned 50 dollars into $3500; in a matter of 8 hours or so. I was playing 15/30 limit w/ in 5 hours and crushing. So after 5 years and who knows a thousand or so sessions its crazy that with the least amount of experience and suicide style bankroll management, I ran the hottest out of my whole life the first night I ever played. And for sure if that night didn't happen the way it did I can say that I wouldn't have continued to play on for years after with that first night's insane run branded into my brain. I wish to god that it never happened cause then i wouldn't be hooked on this game.

I feel like with offshore companies, not exactly open source software, and how only a relatively small amount of people involved (a few code writers, and profit hungry board of directors) that have code weighting to new p layers would be easy and nearly undetectable... If X player's account is X days old, then they will win more than their fair share of coin flips, hit their sets more often etc....

Is this thought so far off? Have other people had the first deposit run like god syndrome only to never run that good again?
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Old 12-21-2009, 02:11 PM   #11317
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I can't say one way or another if internet poker is rigged, but intuitively from my own experience its hard to say definitively that its not. My argument would be that from a software perspective it would be incredibly easy to weight certain probability outcomes in certain directions and from a business perspective highly profitable to do so for new players...
Oh, good grief!

Not this lame theory again.

How many times does this need saying?

If they want to fix the game so that new players make big wins that means that the fixing has to be noticeable to very inexpert players whilst at the same time being unnoticeable to the more expert players who are being cheated.

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I have been playing online for 5 years and the first night I played (with very very little knowledge of the game) I turned 50 dollars into $3500; in a matter of 8 hours or so.
It's called 'variance'.

You can take the worst player in the world and set him against the best in the world and after an hour's play the worst player can be way ahead.

Of course, they can be way behind but in that case they don't come on here and tell everyone.

Can you see how you are part of a self selecting sample?


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I was playing 15/30 limit w/ in 5 hours and crushing. So after 5 years and who knows a thousand or so sessions its crazy that with the least amount of experience and suicide style bankroll management, I ran the hottest out of my whole life the first night I ever played.
So, if you believe that's written into the software why aren't you milking the sites by starting up new accounts lef, right and centre to harvest the first night winnings?

Presumably because at the back of your mind you know perfectly well that your theory is absurd.

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Any company is going to be offshore for a lot of people.

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Is this thought so far off? Have other people had the first deposit run like god syndrome only to never run that good again?
Of course it's way off.

It would stick out like a sore thumb in the statistics.
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Old 12-21-2009, 03:06 PM   #11318
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I can't say one way or another if internet poker is rigged, but intuitively from my own experience its hard to say definitively that its not. <snip>
I didn't read beyond the part about proving a negative.

Prove there is not a tiny teapot orbiting in space.


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Old 12-21-2009, 03:24 PM   #11319
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I didn't read beyond the part about proving a negative.

Prove there is not a tiny teapot orbiting in space.

Why do you ask for proof if you yourself provided it?! I can see the teapot right in the middle of the image man!!!!!

The only problem with that image is that Plutos rings are way far from its right position, so I wonder if its not a fake image.
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Old 12-21-2009, 03:36 PM   #11320
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Oh, good grief!

Not this lame theory again.

How many times does this need saying?

If they want to fix the game so that new players make big wins that means that the fixing has to be noticeable to very inexpert players whilst at the same time being unnoticeable to the more expert players who are being cheated.



It's called 'variance'.

You can take the worst player in the world and set him against the best in the world and after an hour's play the worst player can be way ahead.

Of course, they can be way behind but in that case they don't come on here and tell everyone.

Can you see how you are part of a self selecting sample?




So, if you believe that's written into the software why aren't you milking the sites by starting up new accounts lef, right and centre to harvest the first night winnings?

Presumably because at the back of your mind you know perfectly well that your theory is absurd.



Any company is going to be offshore for a lot of people.



Of course it's way off.

It would stick out like a sore thumb in the statistics.
Prove you play online poker, until then your deemed uncredible and unreliable.
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Old 12-21-2009, 03:38 PM   #11321
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Why do you ask for proof if you yourself provided it?! I can see the teapot right in the middle of the image man!!!!!

The only problem with that image is that Plutos rings are way far from its right position, so I wonder if its not a fake image.
Nah, that whole is fake! Anybody that took a digital picture that far close to the sun would be burned up instantly...debunked...
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The only problem with that image is that Plutos rings are way far from its right position, so I wonder if its not a fake image.
I think you may be onto something there.

Saturn is farther away than Jupiter (you can tell the photo was taken quite close to the sun because it's so big) and it's quite a bit smaller.

And yet in the picture it looks bigger.

Shirley perspective tells us that it should look smaller?

And didn't Russell mention a small teapot.

You could see that one with the naked eye.

Defo something not quite right about the image.
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Old 12-21-2009, 03:42 PM   #11323
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Nah, that whole is fake!
No Sh|t, Sherlock?

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Anybody that took a digital picture that far close to the sun would be burned up instantly
Whereas, of course, if they took the image with a film camera they would be perfectly safe.
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Old 12-21-2009, 03:44 PM   #11324
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Prove you play online poker, until then your deemed uncredible and unreliable.
That comment alone proves what a complete imbecile you are.

One does not need to play poker to understand the statistical implications of variance.

So your demand is utterly senseless.
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Old 12-21-2009, 05:04 PM   #11325
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Have other people ran abnormaly good on their first or second deposits?
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