Dude, I have a friend also,(not internet based) but from growing up, that is top 10 in the world, and a pocket 5's triple crown winner multiple times...Now I'm not braggging and I'm not trying to "out do you" w/ "friends," but that doesn't convince me that there is no need for regulation...(And he'd be pissed if he knew I was "tk1133") lol

Hand histories are irrelevent...

When you're talking with your friend, and he calls tk1133 an idiot, do you stand up for your alter ego, or laugh loudly and agree in order to look cool for your "top 10" friend?

WOW!

You have an uncle who's a congressman and who would disown you if he knew you'd been posting here.

And you have a top player as a childhood friend who would be upset if he knew who you were.

You sure know the top people and you sure like to live dangerously.

Or you are a legend in your own mind.

Anyway, you've given the game away now. All your 'friend' has to do is go through the people he knows and work out which is the biggest lame-brain and he's got you nailed.

You and hand histories have a lot in common, then.

What do you mean by Top 10? Is he in the Top 10 for POY or OPOY or some other list?

I don't think anyone would argue that regulation in the USA would be a bad thing, (please remember that in a lot of other countries online poker is regulated). But mostly because it would make it a lot easier for Americans to deposit.

Back on topic: FTP is rigged. Don't play there if you value your sanity.

20-40% lesser profit for the sites, they must do something to compensate this

Im not going to say that you are wrong here because this very well may be the case. I do also know that if I am just concentrating on those very specifilc situations, that I am leaving a big piece of the picture out. After a certain amount of those hands I should start seeing some good luck. It is just not happening this year. Maybe I am just running very bad in those specific situation and only online...

Almost the entire year I have been seeing this. I have been saving all of my hand histories to my hard drive because I cant get PT to work on my computer. As soon as I get something going that can import my hands, I will load them in and run some reports. I am not sure if there is a report to focus on the specific situations I am talking about, but I will check. I am sure you guys are going to say that my 100k hand sample is too small. The sample will be much smaller if I focus on specific all in situations.

If they compensated for this by cheating players then their profits would not be down 20-40%.

Obviously you are making random stuff up, but try to use a logic flow to your made up stuff.

For instance if their profits were up 100% in a time where the industry matured and growth slowed then you could pretend that maybe that was because they were cheating players.

Riggedologists always seem to get things backwards.

No, but it also wasn't just based on "I feel like that farmer's pork is cheating me, it's obviously rigged if you're more than 5 years old".

i have played alot on many sites, and no, no poker site is "rigged" after the official definition of randomness.. atleast after my opinion.

But i can indeed see a difference of randomness from site to site.. for example on FT the RNG is hard and brutal, with alot of big bad beats and stuff, but again, if you do a random-test on the site, its completely random.. and i abselotley believe that.

On other sites you got "boomswiched" and "doomswitched" now and then, where you 1 day cant win a hand, and the next win all and everything. again - if we do a random test on the site, its completely random.

The point is: I think the way to "a total 100% random site" after official definition of what random is, can vary.

I really wish there was a university or something who did a extremly thorough scientific test of randomness on several poker-RNGs. i think the result would have suprised, but again, i also think that it would conclude that it is 100% random after the definition of "random"

http://www.pokerstars.com/poker/rng/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diehard_tests

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Marsaglia

What the tests actually do is of course complete mumbo-jumbo to me but it seems to me that Mr Marsaglia would be on top of things.

Not sure what you mean, 100% random is 100% random, no? Any modern (i.e. non-pseudo) RNG is 100% random.

Its no secret that many sites have a problem to increase there profit in the poker business. Marketing, TV adds, sponsored players eat a big part up to all profit. Dont be scary they dont rigg 99% of the games, but as long as noone show a analyse that proof its 100% random or 100% not random its a open discussion.

I dont play since it is crime here in germany, a few k poker winnings are not worth the risk to loose a 100K job.

Yup, pretty standard...

Wrong.

cliff notes please

Many bad players excuse their lack of poker ability by imagining the deal is rigged.

Others try and disabuse them of that myth.

I think that just about sums up the thread.

And add that the most frequent bad argument involves proving a negative, and argumentum ad ignorantiam. If nobody proves it isn't rigged (basically impossible to do) then it's rigged for sure. Instead of the assumption being that the deal is normal absent evidence to the contrary - which is how everything else in the entire fkng world works - online poker is special and works the other way around.

Was running fine at full tilt for many weeks when someone flicked a switch in the software. All of a sudden I'm losing hand after hand after hand where I'm heavy favorite. It was not just a bad streak, it was not just me having selective memory. It was total software manipulation.

Yes, but only amongst idiots.

There may be a fair few people who wonder, but that's fair enough.

Only the terminally stupid will be certain that it's rigged without any evidence whatsoever. (See post above.)

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I wonder how tk1133 and rounding4rent are, today.

I trust you have now stopped playing at FT on a permanent basis.

PTR and OPR say otherwise, unless you're not also "krakoose" on FTP. Why would FTP rig it against a .05/.1 PLH and >$3 tourney player?

Ya because there are so many other options for US citizens.
FTP is a complete joke.
The hands they deal play themselves.
Most of the regs I used to play with have been replaced with new account luckboxes.
It's amazing to me that FTP still exists after so many years of ****ing everybody over.