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Old 11-15-2009, 07:18 PM   #10476
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Re: Study into "random" number generators and how you can be a winner by playing at "luckier" s

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Old 11-15-2009, 07:26 PM   #10477
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do we have pics of the OP yet?
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Old 11-15-2009, 07:33 PM   #10478
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do we have pics of the OP yet?


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Old 11-15-2009, 07:46 PM   #10479
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How many points represents a single standard deviation, assuming the deal is perfectly fair and random?
This is my question as well... though their methodology is a bit ****ed regardless. Why assign a "grouping" value to these hands? Why not just look at the percentage of times you get AKo versus the number of times you get 72o and see if they're the same?

Though, I can tell you the results right now:
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Old 11-15-2009, 07:52 PM   #10480
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that's a good one municipalis. Well done.
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Old 11-15-2009, 07:56 PM   #10481
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Re: Study into "random" number generators and how you can be a winner by playing at "luckier" s

+1 massive level. pics of OP please (unless she's a dude)
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Old 11-15-2009, 08:09 PM   #10482
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Re: Study into "random" number generators and how you can be a winner by playing at "luckier" s

OP,

You can email PokerStars and get your hand distribution for the last 4-6 weeks emailed to you, along with details such as how far each hand is from the mean.
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Old 11-15-2009, 08:14 PM   #10483
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can never have a truly random RNG
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Old 11-15-2009, 08:18 PM   #10484
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can never have a truly random RNG
yes you can.
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Old 11-15-2009, 08:55 PM   #10485
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thread of the year hahhahahaha
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Old 11-15-2009, 08:59 PM   #10486
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A+ level
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Old 11-15-2009, 09:00 PM   #10487
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We thank you for sharing this info for free to the community.
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Old 11-15-2009, 09:33 PM   #10488
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Re: Study into "random" number generators and how you can be a winner by playing at "luckier" s

go flip a coin 5 times each in your bedroom, bathroom, living room, and kitchen and ship me the results. I'M VERY INTERESTED. Although, I think that the kitchen is a clear cut winner for producing more "heads."
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Old 11-15-2009, 09:33 PM   #10489
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Re: Study into "random" number generators and how you can be a winner by playing at "luckier" s

I can't believe how many of you fall for levels
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Old 11-15-2009, 09:46 PM   #10490
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Re: Study into "random" number generators and how you can be a winner by playing at "luckier" s

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I can't believe how many of you fall for levels
this is not a level, OP has conducted a painstakingly detailed study, we should be thanking marina for exposing RNGs. All those who criticize these findings are clearly in the employ of the sites being studied.
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Old 11-15-2009, 09:46 PM   #10491
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Re: Study into "random" number generators and how you can be a winner by playing at "luckier" s

op has the sample size thing nailed
https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/32...-stats-634040/
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Old 11-16-2009, 12:51 AM   #10492
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re: The great "Poker is rigged" debate - Collected threads edition

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Whoring is over
Maybe in your world. Works fine in mine.

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Live casinos , stock markets, ATMs in the bank in all this areas is cheating, attacks..manipulation usual.
Um, OK then. This explains a lot. Pretty sure you got lost on your way here:

***Unofficial Conspiracy Chatter Thread***
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Old 11-16-2009, 12:53 AM   #10493
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pretty sure i get more head in my bedroom
Doesn't that make life boring?
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Old 11-16-2009, 01:25 AM   #10494
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My God. I guess I'll check back in on this thread in 5 years, once you've amassed this huge sample. Good luck, and Godspeed.
"Huge" sample being what? 8 sng's?
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Old 11-16-2009, 02:32 AM   #10495
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Re: Study into "random" number generators and how you can be a winner by playing at "luckier" s

way to blow it OP
you realize this could have been gold if you were more subtle.
you got greedy
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Old 11-16-2009, 04:27 AM   #10496
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Old 11-16-2009, 05:03 AM   #10497
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Airtight study, cant imagine anyone can find flaws.
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Old 11-16-2009, 06:52 AM   #10498
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Re: Study into "random" number generators and how you can be a winner by playing at "luckier" s

All the people saying OP is an idiot are handi's, obvious level.
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Old 11-16-2009, 07:01 AM   #10499
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re: The great "Poker is rigged" debate - Collected threads edition

I sell insurance now against rigged odds. Policies are cheap and can be paid through your poker accounts. Every time you incur bad beats that defy the actual odds and deviation, just mail in your HH along with your written claim describing your proof in detail.
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Old 11-16-2009, 09:42 AM   #10500
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If people keep crying wolf like this, how will we ever know when a genuinely stupid person is posting?
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