I wont say the name of the poker website, unless you want to know, but I think it is rigged. I was dealt quads, 4 times in less than 15 minutes. Then the next day I was dealt quads once again. Is it clear to think that the site is rigged based on that really happening ever?

Why might the site be rigged in your favour? And did you stack your opponent each time?

What game were you playing? What do you mean by dealt quads? How many hands in each sample?

In your sample, what do you think the probability is of this occurring?

https://youtu.be/kuBvAWwRY_o

Magic612

I miss this guy so much. Would be nice if you could upload your content and add your thoughts as the hand progresses. Fell free to swear and get angry too. Good luck at the tables.

I thought poker sites were rigged, but they are not.Sometimes it seems as if the cards are purposely being rigged to make you lose, but it's nothing more than a downswing. And they suck! Everyone has them, but nobody shows them on YouTube, only the winning sessions. Some pretend they don't have them and just tell people on a downswing they suck at the game.

I proved to myself many times when I've had the most horrendous downswings imaginable that it's not rigged, just by changing to another poker site where the horrendous bad beats and insane runouts continue. And that's the proof... changing sites when your on a up or a down and you'll notice it continues.

They can't be conspiring together?!

I don't care how good you think you are at poker, when your on a downswing, the only thing that works (a few times) is bluffing but that soon gets called on. All ins rarely hold up, if you manage to get AA,KK,QQ,JJ or KA it gets busted by junk from some idiot with 72o messing about, if you flop well it doesn't end well even if your playing it cool. NO MATTER WHAT YOU DO YOU LOSE HAND AFTER HAND. Well actually sometimes you may win a few hands in a game but lose overall which is the same as just losing but a bit of false hope rubbed in.

I run hot rarely,and when I do I can't lose, any 2 wins and while I'm running hot this confidence envelops me.. sadly it last about 5 minutes.

Sometimes, could be half a day or a full day I run well, not hot not cold, warm. And things go well during this time, connect well with the flops and so does my opponents, only not well enough to beat me. Sadly the rest of the time I run bad, folding junk and only playing the good cards in position, very carefully, doesn't matter though, villan always wins.

Withdrawal button is always a doomswitch.

What was the name of the study they did like 100 million hands. Spade bidder or something like that? Anyone got a link

CoinPoker will try to do everything in it's power to **** you. I constantly get ****ed. The same old pattern/scenario. If you have a Ace-5 straight, they have a 2-6 straight. If I have a 6high straight, the other player will have a 7 high straight, which just happened now. If you challenge their RNG ( rigged number generator ), you will stand to get ****ed out of your money real quick. They'll set you up with an impossible hand to throw away, just so some can hit a ****ing miracle 2 card draw and get it like it was a 100% guarantee

Not to mention the collusion that goes on. When you point out a LITERAL Textbook For Dummy's 101 beginners most very basic way to tell if people are colluding, like yes people it was that OBVIOUS LITERALLY, and bring it to their attention and of course " They Didn't See Anything Wrong " after they allegedly " Reviewed it"! Shits a joke.

Certain players making bets or calls to certain hands that literally, would be the move they make ONLY if they knew which cards were definitely going to come. Yeah Players, like literally it's the only explanation to the extent that nothing else makes sense. When I brought up about people are knowing what I have.

I went 2 years without a loss at 2/5 NL poker, and 95% of the time while playing live in a casino I will turn a $100 into anywhere from $900 to $3000 and never had to rebuy. Of course I went with more money than a $100. Obviously there's going to be plenty of days where I have to rebuy. So someone that has the skill I do who plays here knows that I know what I'm talking about. I've played online for a long long time, so when I spot these things, I know what I'm looking for or able to know when shady **** presents itself.

So anyways CoinPoker talked about how " Trustworthy " they are, and tried to tell me in the same ****ING SENTENCE as saying their trustworthy, that no poker site has EVER been hacked or be able to see others hole cards. I told them LITERALLY Absolute Poker/Ultimate bet got shut down for that very damn reason by a guy named " Potripper " who was able to see everyone's hole cards and finally got caught when someone requested something and was accidentally sent a graph, I think it was, and it showed where all the players were on the up and down that a player goes through, but " Potripper " , it showed his stats on the graph and went straight up to where anyone would question that. The guy was so greedy that he didn't even act like it lose a couple of hands just so it's not that obvious.

Absolute poker/Ultimate Bet got shut down and had to pay back MILLIONS OF DOLLARS back to players, never released the real name of POTRIPPER, and so the Kanawakhe Gaming Commission just closed down the 3rd and 4th largest poker sites at that time. The reason they didn't release Potrippers name is because they were in on it, rather they admit it or not.

So why bring this up about Absolute poker and Ultimate Bet poker, because if the 3rd and 4th largest poker sites at that time who have way way way more players than these other sites like CoinPoker, ACR, IGNITION, BOL, GLOBAL POKER,ETC., if they were still robbing people despite the fact that they made money hand over fist, then why would that be hard to believe CoinPoker is any different.

So I told CoinPoker that these certain players are making to perfect of moves and when they told me that no poker site has ever been hacked or able to see others cards and claims that it would be impossible for someone to be able to connect to every other players server, and so I told them about the 3rd and 4th largest poker sites was shut down explicitly for this issue and there is a show on 60 minutes about this very issue, like people IT'S A FACT!!

Do you want to know what CoinPoker said after I told them all this and that they can either Google what I'm saying by typing in " Potripper " in the search engine, OR go watch 60 minutes about this, there's no ****ing debate about it, and that it was a SOLID FACT PERIOD!! They still continued to try to say it's never happened. It's one thing to be ignorant and not know what your talking about, but it's another thing when it's a fact and yet they continue to stay ignorant!! TRUSTWORTHY MY ASS!! Funny part is when I very first started here I turned $2 into $2000. But now, they make it impossible to make $100 or $200 if that. It's all depending who you are there that decides your poker fate each hand, not to mention the ****ing rigged ass RNG that's literally multiple steps ahead of you no matter what move you make. It's HOOK LINE SINKER damn near everytime. Constantly ****ed. THIS SITE HAS BECAME STRAIGHT ROGUE AND ALLOWS OR ARE PART OF SHADY TACTICS POINT BLANK PERIOD!!!!!!

See https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/2...=#post55005307

You need to hear yourself! You are clueless ! The DOJ closed down multiple sites due to Black Friday and if wasn't due to this potripper incident! so just stop rambling your bad beat stories without any real context. I hear people like you crying all day at poker tables and online. People like you just can't handle variance and that's ok, but just don't think the sites are just cheating you! I am not saying collusion is not out there but then just walk away and go play live since you are a winning player! Or ****in switch to mtts but don't make yourself so miserable over a game we all enjoy playing !

Have anyone else noticed something strange on Pokerstars?
Having just returned after a 10+ years hiatis I’m somewhat blown away by the quads, busted aces and runner runner backdor flushes I have witnessed the last couple of months.
It is simply not normal and looks somewhat “intentional” inducing a granted more fun and random game but is it honest?
Have this been mentioned before? I have seen some comments on reddit.
Anyone know if they have been investigated?

Sounds like they got the doom switch activated on your account. Sometimes if you ask support politely, they will deactivate it, but no guarantees.

No this has never mentioned before anywhere.

My guess is they will be heavily investigated now after u and those detectives on reddit made everyone aware of what is happening there.

Interesting replies.
This is not case of me being bad beat, but it is interesting to observe very abnormal amount of quads, runner runners etc. Generally speaking almost every hand that’s not just folded around tend to be an “action hand”
Obviously if everone reacts like the 2 responses everythins is good and this is just the new normal.
Sure make fun of it. Then it never happend.

U just dont understand variance and samplesize and thats it.

What did u expect how people would react to ur non-proof nonsense? U did not even bother to post some HH's. Why should we believe anything u are saying?

Pokerforums are full with riggie stuff posted by bad players. U already exposed urself by saying "every hand that is not folded is a action hand".

I think I understand variance quite fine and as mentioned before this is not about me it is about observing what happends every other hand.
But let me suggest someone truely interested to go to Pokerstars (if applicable) join a few microstakes tournaments and observe. If nothings up then nothings up

No u dont. End of story. Everything u say is very telling about ur poker skill and a few hands observed on micro stakes is obv not enough.

Your insight is blowing me away.
I’m truly impressed you got all that from my post?
Well you are entitled to your opinion and shouldn’t worry then.
How would you suggest in you poker pro opinion to go about asking if anyone else observed something abnormal?
Probably just me. With gto, ranges, blockers etc. Poker probably just evolved way above my comprehension

Again: read about variance and samplesize.

What answers do u expect by asking that question? If other riggies write yes, how does that help u in any way?

Yes many riggies have observed something abnormal but they all dont understand samplesize and variance. Most if them also play bad poker and are not willing to learn.

U need milliona of hands. Ur lol-approach of observing a few micro stake hands just does not cut it.

Stars is the last place that would rig their rng as they are well-established, already have a massive chunk of the market and billions of hands get collected and analysed by the players using HUDs.

Players are a lot tighter these days, so you are probably just noticing hands that go to showdown which will be a lot more value heavy.

Also odds run pretty close in Holdem so it's easy to see quite a few suckouts over a small sample size.

Don't waste your time gazing at random outcomes and trying to find patterns that aren't there, sign up to a training site and learn to beat the game.

Good luck!

The classic doesnt play on the site will argue with regulars of said site that it isnt skewed or rigged in some fashion.

Keep up the good work as all it takes is 2 eyes and railing for about 30ms before its plain as day. You will never seen A fish coolered pre or post except at 1/10th the ratio of anyone good. go watch urself. Watch how often since they dont get legimately reversed coolered they win with whatever random junk they decide to gambol with that are pure gto folds.

Your feelz are as useless as your whining. Get your HH, post them, and there are very smart people that can find the slightest discrepancies. You won't, no roggies ever do that. All you're doing is telling everyone that reads this thread that you have no idea about wtf you're talking about nor variance, probability, or statistics.

Save your silly retort about how your miracle vision is better than simple math. Show HH or continue to be laughed at. There is a reason you're in this thread. Half the posters whine about nonsense and the other half laughs at them.

There is no doubt at all that there is something going on at GG. We have heard so many stories, players that are crushers and has massive winrates on other sites, but they just can't win at GG. People that are playing spins, people that are playing low stakes PLO (me for example) but can't even beat these stakes at GG while I'm doing way over 10bb/100 on other sites. And it's funny, because when you just make the account (fresh PVI), there seems to be no problem at all winning, but the more you win, the lower your PVI gets, it just gets impossible to win. Could it be that the PVI has a massive influence when you are all in? There has been so many spots where I feel like I have been lured into entering a pot from the BB, either because it's limped (duh!) or someone mini raises and you just get in there with a marginal hand like Q884ss that otherwise would have been folded and flop comes 893 and they obviously got 99. And the cash drops feels insanly rigged as well.
It's like they (superusers?) are playing insanly loose and you get to win lots of small pots, but the bigger ones...

I understand it sounds fishy to give a specific hand example like this one because obviously it could happen on any site, but it is just too much.
Obviously it's very stupid to keep playing on a site where I'm certain that things are going on, and that's why I have left the site for good and I'm doing very well now.

For the sceptic people, try go down the stakes for just 2 weeks and crush it and see what happens next.

It is actually very scary, the biggest poker site acting the way it does...

And all the other scandals, Fedor Kruse, Bryn Kenney, Ali Imsirovic and bunch more.

Can we just get a ****ing honest poker site like the old PokerStars where integrity was just on a whole other level and with a generous loyality program where they actually care about their customers? It is just gonna end up with more and more people joining all these apps in lack of alternative and god knows which kind of people that are behind those apps.

I don't know if it's bias or smth but i swear- any time someone takes a weird line with a hand they shouldn't be taking they get the most amazing boards being a massive underdog. Half stacks are just taking money away no matter what equity they have. And then when you take a bonus those "luckers" are there to take your money away and then you end running massively under EV but surprise surprise - bonus covers that.

Well said!

seems like gg poker went with the same script as pokerstars in running at least small/medium stakes tourneys. seems like players from some countries just have better winning odds. ye ye, i am looser whining about aggressive players from south america and other "poor" countries. just keep in mind probably 1 or 2 out of 10 is really decent/aggressive player. never think about stupidity as calculated aggression.
i realized that just a couple months ago when watching pokerstars stream and commentators just explained why are so many players come from these countries.
if you play from canada, germany, austria, uk or other "richer" country you have reduced odds to win again somebody from "poorer" country. i understand the idea. if you are from "richer" country you can loose 200-300$ per month and still go back and play because poker is just a hobby. but when there is a poor economy, high unemployment rate and etc. and average income is just few hundred bucks pokersites need to let them win few hundred to keep them coming back. simple: you need to script their wins otherwise they cant' afford to come back.
and the good thing for these sites is that the loosing players will never have enough stats to prove such script is running because they do not have history of millions hands played and you always loose kk vs 77 because 7 always comes and it is just bad beat.
fk no
it is just script gg and ps running for some group of players. i am not playing many tables and i watch other hands. and it is happening again and again.
would be really interesting if somebody has enough stats to support the idea or just say it is crazy bulls*** and it is whining of another looser