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Old 10-10-2009, 11:44 PM   #9176
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OK I HAVE A ELEPHANT GUN POINTED TO MY HEAD AND AM ASKED IS ONLINE POKER RIGGED IF IM WRONG I GET MY HEAD BLOWN OFF I WOULD INSTA YELL RIGGEDDDDD
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Old 10-11-2009, 01:50 AM   #9177
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I really wish online poker was not rigged, because I love it. but unfortunately, it is..
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Old 10-11-2009, 01:59 AM   #9178
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OK I HAVE A ELEPHANT GUN POINTED TO MY HEAD AND AM ASKED IS ONLINE POKER RIGGED IF IM WRONG I GET MY HEAD BLOWN OFF I WOULD INSTA YELL RIGGEDDDDD
I'd make a clever comment, but given how high strung you seem to be, I'd worry about the negative effect it would have on you. So instead, I'm going to suggest that you turn your computer off, make a nice cup of tea (or even better - hot chocolate!), grab that book you've been meaning to read for the last 3 years, and have a nice quiet night.
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Old 10-11-2009, 03:18 AM   #9179
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OK I HAVE A ELEPHANT GUN POINTED TO MY HEAD AND AM ASKED IS ONLINE POKER RIGGED IF IM WRONG I GET MY HEAD BLOWN OFF I WOULD INSTA YELL RIGGEDDDDD
A classic example of Darwinism at work.
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Old 10-11-2009, 03:19 AM   #9180
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I really wish online poker was not rigged, because I love it. but unfortunately, it is..
Smearsy! Long time no see.

As someone correctly pointed out, it's rigged so that bad players lose.

You can tell exactly how it's rigged: Look at the rules of poker.
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Old 10-11-2009, 03:40 AM   #9181
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Why doesn't FTP have a set deck?
Because then they can't control the board for all the hands that enter the pot. Lets say a player on the button decides to raise with garbage, and the big blind calls with a decent hand. The continuous shuff will generate a board that will hit both hands where neither hand will fold to flop bet. This generates the maximum rake.
My rant of the day. I hate FTP
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Old 10-11-2009, 04:03 AM   #9182
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How would a site know when someone's gonna take a piss and leaves his PC w/o sitting out? How would they know when someone falls asleep and misses a hand? How can they rig the deal for action when action isn't guaranteed (ever)??

OH... that's right! Duh!! S u p err d u p err b o t s ! What was I thinking?

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Old 10-11-2009, 05:08 AM   #9183
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Why doesn't FTP have a set deck?
Because then they can't control the board for all the hands that enter the pot. Lets say a player on the button decides to raise with garbage, and the big blind calls with a decent hand. The continuous shuff will generate a board that will hit both hands where neither hand will fold to flop bet. This generates the maximum rake.
Proof?

Evidence?
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Old 10-11-2009, 05:09 AM   #9184
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The shills are painfully obvious. They're why these threads are so entertaining.
True.

Stephen Mears (a.k.a Rounding4Rent and so many more) is shilling for RealDeal.

tk1133 is shilling for something that would benefit from online poker legislation.


And they can be hilarious.
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Old 10-11-2009, 05:19 AM   #9185
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LOL.
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Old 10-11-2009, 05:32 AM   #9186
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LOL.
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Old 10-11-2009, 06:07 AM   #9187
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Old 10-11-2009, 06:26 AM   #9188
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That dog would call my bluff, you better not put him in when you are facing a bet from me in a tough call situation, that would be so rigged.
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Old 10-11-2009, 06:32 AM   #9189
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Why doesn't FTP have a set deck?
Because then they can't control the board for all the hands that enter the pot. Lets say a player on the button decides to raise with garbage, and the big blind calls with a decent hand. The continuous shuff will generate a board that will hit both hands where neither hand will fold to flop bet. This generates the maximum rake.
My rant of the day. I hate FTP
The tards are getting even more stupid. If a site is rigging it then it doesn't matter if they tell you that the deck is set or not. DUCY
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Old 10-11-2009, 06:57 AM   #9190
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The tards are getting even more stupid. If a site is rigging it then it doesn't matter if they tell you that the deck is set or not. DUCY
No ****, I am just saying that is how fulltilt does it.
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Old 10-11-2009, 07:06 AM   #9191
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No ****, I am just saying that is how fulltilt does it.
We know that FTP uses continuous shuffle and Stars doesn't. The point is if either of them decides to rig their RNG it doesn't matter which system they say they are using.
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Old 10-11-2009, 08:49 AM   #9192
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However, a google search for "Rockart and poker" found him at www.pokerisrigged.com.
Best part: "When there's nothing left to blame"
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Old 10-11-2009, 09:47 AM   #9193
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off course its rigged, ldo

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Old 10-11-2009, 09:47 AM   #9194
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The shills are painfully obvious. They're why these threads are so entertaining. They go against all logic to defend their cash cow. If we are to believe them, we are supposed to ignore the fact that none of these internet poker sites are regulated by anybody.
If I owned a poker site and was stupid enough to think employing a shill for this thread would improve my business, I would employ someone lke you, tk1133, R4R etc. They make the pro rigging brigade look completely braindead and encourage intelligent, logical responses which illustrate the arguments against it.

Simply stating that "none of these internet poker sites are regulated by anybody" doesn't make it true you know. Good shilling.
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Old 10-11-2009, 11:05 AM   #9195
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Always asking for proof and hand histories...!
Oh, yes, the horrors of requesting evidence!

Btw, a UFO of dinosaurs just landed in my backyard. What, you don't believe me? You want pictures?!? I don't have time to give you evidence! Don't you freaking understand! We're being invaded by alien lizards! I don't have time to provide EVIDENCE!
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Old 10-11-2009, 11:33 AM   #9196
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Oh, yes, the horrors of requesting evidence!
I'm so ashamed.
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Old 10-11-2009, 01:09 PM   #9197
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Are you from either Washington State or Kentucky?
Germany, it was a grey area now its official crime. Added i have a 70K Job that i loose if i get caught for any illegal activities...and a few K pokerwinnings are not worth the risk...better to make a few K with stocks / real estate
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Old 10-11-2009, 03:50 PM   #9198
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No ****, I am just saying that is how fulltilt does it.
If that's how Full Tilt does it, then why are there so many HU flops where one player check/folds?

Obviously you wouldn't claim that FTP is so stupid that they rig every hand, so I'm guessing you're saying that they rig it so that people connect with the flop more often than they should, right?

I assume you have numbers of some sort to back this up, right? Or is this just something that you noticed with your super advanced thinking, so advanced that no software reviews could pick it up, but your brain can?
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Old 10-11-2009, 06:42 PM   #9199
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This talk of action flops is, to be frank, incredibly nonsensical for two key reasons:

1) As I have explained repeatedly in great detail in this thread, action flops are impossible at sites where the deck is shuffled and set before dealing. If you are concerned about such activity, you should follow the directions in my earlier posts on the topic.

2) The concept of action flops is directly contradictory to the idea of rigging the deck to keep fish alive longer: big pots result in more movement of money, and thus, more variance, and thus, less rake for the online poker site. It is self-evidently idiotic to argue that the deck is rigged to generate more rake for a poker site, and then claim that there are action flops: if there were action flops, that would reduce the rake to the online poker operator.
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Old 10-11-2009, 07:18 PM   #9200
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This talk of action flops is, to be frank, incredibly nonsensical for two key reasons:

1) As I have explained repeatedly in great detail in this thread, action flops are impossible at sites where the deck is shuffled and set before dealing. If you are concerned about such activity, you should follow the directions in my earlier posts on the topic.

2) The concept of action flops is directly contradictory to the idea of rigging the deck to keep fish alive longer: big pots result in more movement of money, and thus, more variance, and thus, less rake for the online poker site. It is self-evidently idiotic to argue that the deck is rigged to generate more rake for a poker site, and then claim that there are action flops: if there were action flops, that would reduce the rake to the online poker operator.
Rigged theorists got pwned with this post. +1 to you sir.
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