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12-24-2021 , 12:02 PM
It appears we agree on a few things laggy boy.

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Originally Posted by lagtight The great "Poker is rigged" debate - Collected threads edition
1. I also have no faith in my ability to analyse stats. I single-table nanostakes games.
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Originally Posted by lagtight The great "Poker is rigged" debate - Collected threads edition
2. I never said you should take my word for anything. You have no reason to take my word for anything
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Originally Posted by lagtight The great "Poker is rigged" debate - Collected threads edition
Says who?
I said it. Who did you think it was?

More things we agree on ...

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Originally Posted by lagtight The great "Poker is rigged" debate - Collected threads edition
They can choose to prove that their deal is fair, or they can choose not to. Anyone who is bothered by the lack of proof shouldn't play on such a site.

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Originally Posted by lagtight The great "Poker is rigged" debate - Collected threads edition
I will leave it as an exercise for the discerning reader to decide who is failing to grasp various points in this thread.

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Originally Posted by lagtight The great "Poker is rigged" debate - Collected threads edition
Everybody is dodging my comment. It's relevant, because this discussion is taking place in a low-content containment thread that exists for giggles and grins. That's kinda the point that you are failing to grasp.
Nah, your comment is irrelevant. It's not down to any individual player, or group of players to prove whether a site is fair or not. Simple really.

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Originally Posted by lagtight The great "Poker is rigged" debate - Collected threads edition
Merry Christmas!!!
Likewise!!!
12-24-2021 , 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by TheoryJuicer The great "Poker is rigged" debate - Collected threads edition
Nah baller, I make more in a day than you do in a month.
Aw, someone is all whiny and upset and doing the emo copycat thing. Difference is, I showed you proof to back one of my statements, and if you really want to see details of how I made some money you can dig through the election threads here as I posted very specific details in that regard, including predictions and wagers etc. That's the thing - I have a proven track record of success. You only have a proven track record of whining for years in a riggie thread about an industry in which you make zero money. Did you ever stop to think about that? You will post a thousand times in a riggie thread for an industry in which you are not even a real participant. Heh, losers.

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Originally Posted by TheoryJuicer The great "Poker is rigged" debate - Collected threads edition
We can make any sort of statement we want if we have no intention of backing it up. Like you. And Dud. In the end, it has no value and you have no credibility left.
You saying someone has no credibility shows that do have some, not that your assessment matters at all.



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Originally Posted by TheoryJuicer The great "Poker is rigged" debate - Collected threads edition
If you ever feel like posting proof of earnings to back up your claims (you won't), do let me know. I expect to see them around the same time Dud posts proof that the deal is fair for the major poker sites i.e. never.
I did post proof. I have a watch worth more than you. I linked proof to that, and again you can see for yourself all the details of how I made money in the past year if you really want in the Politics forum. If you really need me to do the work for you then you have to pay for my time, but we both know you have zero money to do that.


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Originally Posted by TheoryJuicer The great "Poker is rigged" debate - Collected threads edition
The challenge is still open. If anyone out there has proof of a fair deal at any of the major poker sites do let us know.
Nobody cares about your personal challenge. You are a zero value entity in this industry. There is no "us" - only you lingering in a riggie thread in an industry in which you failed. Seriously, name another single poster who is part of your "us." that is waiting for whatever it is you keep yammering on about. That should be an easy thing for you to back up something you said - prove someone else exists that is part of your "us," but safe to say you cannot even do that. You are like the dudes that hang out on the rail after they are busto talking about their lot in life while nobody else cares in the slightest.

Anyway, to sum it up - my watch is worth more than you!

All the best.
12-24-2021 , 02:03 PM
Has anyone ever seen Theoryjuicer and Monteroy in the same room? Seems like a nice method for a narcissist to brag about his so called success. Its hard to believe any genuine poster would post such nonsense 500 times unless it was to provide content for the king of this dumpster thread.
12-24-2021 , 02:28 PM
While I applaud the semi-creativity of that donk being a second account of mine, that concept (with other really dumb riggie posters) has been suggested in the past as well - that I was posting as a fake riggie to make riggies look really stupid. Now, while many years ago I thought it would be fun to create an inane riggie with a dumb troll routine, that would have been to have fun with the shills at the time (they were kind of uptight). I never bothered, though I did at times do a routine where I pretended a really low end riggie like this latest guy was a gimmick account of mine (or a player I worked with) to confuse other riggies at the time. Actually did work once, which was kind of fun, as that was one of the few times where some genuine riggie on riggie yelling took place after! No point these days as the riggie culture is dead - their are barely any riggies left! That latest donk keeps talking about wanting information for "us" yet there is not even a second active riggie. Hmm, maybe he was secretly suggesting that he and I are the same person...

As for the narcissist bragging thing - this is a riggie thread which I equate to being Pro Wrestling. It is for entertainment value only, so try to not take every routine you see as being anything other than what it is - a silly disposable routine. On a recent Pro wrestling show they had a wrestler get eaten by zombies. I got news for you - he was not actually eaten by zombies. Now, with that said - the poker industry is literally filled with people who do and have done the bragging/making it rain routine and achieve a following because of it, which is not hard to understand given the demographics of the consumers involved (generally younger to middle age single dudes that lack social skills). Not too many Streamers in this industry are based on being quiet and demure and shy.

Anyway, the reason I never bothered with an idiotic fake riggie gimmick account was simple - I could not even pretend to be as clueless as the riggies. You bring up what should be a logical point in that nobody should be a genuine poster like that guy, but the reality is - they are genuinely that clueless. This thread is filled with a ton of posters like that as is the BFI and politics forums (which provided me with more entertainment the past couple years compared to this one). Lot of dummies in this world, and this industry (with all its flaws) does create an environment where people like me can actually directly compete against the dummies. On a micro sense that is exactly what good players try to do as well - they look for the weak dummies to play against and extract their money, and realistically most of capitalism is based on the same process.

Last edited by Monteroy; 12-24-2021 at 02:41 PM. Reason: corrrected tpyos
12-24-2021 , 06:02 PM
It's interesting to see how many believe that these sites are "honest" because no one ever cheats, right. It would be like trying to steal a Presidential election! And, that will never happen, right? Maybe it is my brain trying to justify how I could be way ahead at the turn only get sucked out on at the river 18 out of 20 tomes. It' just justifying my play.
12-24-2021 , 06:09 PM
I had the same issue with 888. 18/20 I have been way ahead at the turn only to get rivered. 18 out of 20 times just doesn't seem normal.
It's interesting also that before you can take a screen shot everything resets.
12-24-2021 , 06:14 PM
That will only happen to you on 18/20 sites, so you need to keep trying until you find one the the 2 sites that let you win. As to the sites working in software that prevents you from taking screenshots in time, you can work around this by doing videos of your sessions or learn to take screenshots quicker!

All the best.
12-24-2021 , 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by ruinedcreature The great "Poker is rigged" debate - Collected threads edition
It's interesting to see how many believe that these sites are "honest" because no one ever cheats, right. It would be like trying to steal a Presidential election! And, that will never happen, right? Maybe it is my brain trying to justify how I could be way ahead at the turn only get sucked out on at the river 18 out of 20 tomes. It' just justifying my play.
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Originally Posted by ruinedcreature The great "Poker is rigged" debate - Collected threads edition
I had the same issue with 888. 18/20 I have been way ahead at the turn only to get rivered. 18 out of 20 times just doesn't seem normal.
It's interesting also that before you can take a screen shot everything resets.
Interesting how "new account" has whines and no proof. Them feelz is real tho.

If course, its easy to prove of honest or cheating. The actual cheating occurs by players, they collude, bot, and/or use RTA
01-01-2022 , 07:22 AM
Another year has come and gone, and while 2021 was a great year for those of us who succeed in this industry, it was a rough year for the riggie culture. Very few genuine riggies appear any more for a number of factors, including that all of their claims are repetitive and have never gone anywhere for 20ish years, so coming up with a new riggie belief is not easy. While I will hope for some new and entertaining riggies in 2022, I suspect the pattern we saw in 2021 will continue where the bulk of the riggie side of this thread are noncompetitive retreads that cannot move on with their lives and linger in a dusty forum about an industry in which they never were and are not a participant that matters.

Still, hope springs eternal, so in case any genuine riggies do appear in 2022 this list will help them better appreciate the rich and long established riggie culture that came before them.



Stats riggie (note, you likely will not understand a word he says):

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/2...hould-1299786/
https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/2...isive-1293249/
https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/2...untry-1123425/
https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/2...uency-1116343/
https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/2...omaly-1007942/
https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/2...l-play-985031/

Extreme Conspiracy Riggie:

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/2...ssion-1100433/
https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/2...ssion-1132764/

He had a lot of beliefs, not all poker related

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/4...onomy-1130732/

Troll/Martyr Riggie:

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/2...sioned-806209/
https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/2...ink-so-816658/
https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/2...mbling-822222/
https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/2...e-yawn-897603/
https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/2...warded-858683/
https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/3...nents-1026747/


Angry Wannabe Poker Pro Riggie:

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/1...t-now-1312513/
https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/6...nders-1303087/
https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/6...iance-1320287/

Looks like the expat poker career is taking off (same riggie)

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...&postcount=218

The "D" Riggie (this guy was a legend):

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...ostcount=43190

The (0) (1) (2) Riggie (this guy is not a legend):

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...ostcount=84782

Xenophobe riggie (America solves everything):

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...ostcount=62072
https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...ostcount=62075

New Jersey Poker Rooms are Rigged Riggie:

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/5.../#post41399362
https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...ostcount=71529

Xenophobe riggie (America causes all problems):

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/2...right-1332555/
https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/2...k-not-1342447/

America does not matter - it is all rigged:

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...postcount=3461

Rigged for people in G8 Countries Riggie:

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/2...8-g20-1465213/

"Live Poker is Never Rigged" Riggie:

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...ostcount=62127

"Live Poker Is Always Rigged" Riggie:

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/5...huffle-276002/

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/in...8152840AAGeIp6

Live Poker in Georgia Back Rooms is Rigged Riggie:

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/5...neral-1500657/

Live Poker in Connecticut is Rigged Riggie:

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/2...58/?highlight=

Everything is Rigged Except Merge Network Riggie

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...ostcount=63035
https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...ostcount=63038

After Playing there 2 Months Merge is Becoming Rigged (same riggie):

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...ostcount=63919

After Playing there 4 Months Merge is Totally Rigged (same riggie):

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...ostcount=64464

Merge Network is Always Rigged Riggie:

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/2...t-now-1160123/
https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/2...irate-1140212/
https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...37&postcount=1
https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/5...mizer-1202701/

Merge and Cake are Rigged, Black Chip is Not Rigged Riggie:

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...ostcount=63743

Pokerstars is Rigged, Cake Poker is Not Rigged Riggie:

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...82&postcount=3

Merge is rigged, Ipoker is not rigged Riggie:

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...2&postcount=12

Only certain games on ipoker are rigged Riggie:

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...8&postcount=13

Zynga is Rigged riggie:

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/2...igged-1163239/

Only Bodog is Rigged and it is against the top 1% of Players Riggie

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...ostcount=80500

All Rooms are Rigged except unknown Russian Rooms Riggie

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/2...erdom-1697329/

Party Poker Software Update Riggie:

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...ostcount=63281

Party is Rigged, Pokerstars is OK Riggie:

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/3...igged-1276965/

Pokerstars is Rigged, Party Poker is OK Riggie:

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...&postcount=614

Pokerstars is Rigged Only After You Email Them Riggie:

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...ostcount=84828

888 is Rigged, Stars is Not Rigged Riggie

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...ostcount=66193

Stars is Rigged, 888 is Not Rigged Riggie:

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...ostcount=75516

Stars is Rigged, Lock Poker is Not Rigged Riggie (wow, Lock Poker...)

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...3&postcount=13

Stars is Rigged, Full Tilt is not Rigged Riggie:

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...postcount=3914

Stars is Rigged only after Amaya took over Riggie:

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...ostcount=74895

Stars Rebuy Riggie (even though no rake is charged on rebuys at the time):

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...ostcount=63392
https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...ostcount=63395

Stars is Rigged Against Riggies Posting in a Riggie Thread Riggie:

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...ostcount=75439
https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...ostcount=75437

Bodog is Riggied riggie:
https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/6...rigged-869233/

Entraction is Rigged:

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/5...rigged-640036/

Cake Poker is Rigged Riggie:

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/3...d-luck-640871/

Cake Poker is not rigged, Full Tilt is Rigged Riggie:

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/5...-right-610030/

Stars is Rigged Full Tilt is Not Rigged Riggie:

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...49&postcount=4

Full Tilt Rigs Sattelites to End Early Riggie:

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...ostcount=78138

Stars is not Rigged, Bitcoin Sites are Rigged Riggie:

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...postcount=8087

Small Sites Rigged, Big Sites Not Rigged Riggie:

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...ostcount=65660

Poker is Rigged when Bitcoin Price Falls Riggie:

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...ostcount=85094

Online Poker is Too Fair Riggie:

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/2...-fair-1737749/

Paperboy is Rigged:

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/7...igged-1063427/

Zero Gravity Riggie:

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...ostcount=84084

First Person to Raise Pre-Flop Wins Riggie:

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...ostcount=89068

Hidden Badge Sheep Riggie:

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...ostcount=85271

Network Flow Riggie:

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...ostcount=85579

Hot/Cold Software Update Riggie:

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...ostcount=85393

Fish Buffet Riggie:

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...ostcount=85290

Equalization Program Riggie:

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...ostcount=63030
https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...ostcount=63581

Forsaken Riggie:

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/2...e-you-1686345/

Genocidal Programmer Riggie:

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...ostcount=86391

Slightly Less Random Riggie:

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...ostcount=84656

Extra Luck Riggie:

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/2...-luck-1722996/

Mafia Riggie:

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/2...l#post35028326

Lawyer Riggie:

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...postcount=2266

Breathalyzer Riggie:

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...ostcount=91010

Plutocracy Riggie:

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...ostcount=84182

Paint Hole Riggie:

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...ostcount=90115

Pumpkin Riggie:

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...ostcount=90328

Lemon Riggie:

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...ostcount=90735

Quad Knob Riggie:

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...postcount=2985

Superbot riggie:[/B]

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...postcount=7615
https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/2...l#post10939021
https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...postcount=3979

Manslaughter/Masturbation riggie:

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...ostcount=32843
https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...ostcount=38210

Murder Riggie:

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...postcount=3456

Rage Riggie

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/5...r-pics-920492/
https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/5...sk-pic-701345/
https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/5...me-win-984220/

Anti-Poker Riggie:

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...ostcount=86770
https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...ostcount=86776

Bookie Gangster Riggie:

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...ostcount=84239

Hypnosis Riggie:

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...ostcount=84137

NFL BLitz Riggie:

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...&postcount=910

Ostensible Riggie:

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/3...16/?highlight=
https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/2...41/index2.html
https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...stcount=84186]

Self Correction Riggie:

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/2...=#post54055672

Polarization Riggie:

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...ostcount=84603

Permanent Bone Mode Riggie:

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...ostcount=87559

Rigged During Pandemic Riggie:

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...ostcount=88730

Skype Buddy Proves OJ Riggie:

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...postcount=2669

Two of a Kind Riggie:

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...postcount=1791

Religious Zealot Riggie:

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...ostcount=84743

Philosopher Butterfly Riggie:

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...ostcount=85198

Western State Riggie:

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showpost.php?p=30411476&postcount=43307[/url]

Rigged to Hurt Donks Riggie:

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...ostcount=78820

Rigged to Help Donks Riggie:
https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...ostcount=62368

Oh Wait, I am the Donk, but the Sites Do Not Help Me Riggie (same one):

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/5...poker-1136853/
https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/3...poker-1136682/

Rigged for new players riggie:

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...ostcount=71438

Rigged against new players riggie:

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...ostcount=71412
https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...ostcount=71416

Rigged against new players on Small Sites, but Not Rigged on Big Sites riggie:

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...ostcount=77561

Rigged in Daily Cycles Riggie:

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...ostcount=72075

Rigged on Friday Riggie:

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...ostcount=85741

Rigged in Two Week Cycles Riggie:

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...postcount=3912
https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...postcount=3889

Rigged in Seasonal Cycles Riggie:

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...ostcount=72044

84 Card Deck Riggie:

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/2.../#post39186201

Speed of Deal Riggie:

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...ostcount=63215

Pseudo Embedded Software Riggie:

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...ostcount=63409

Infinite Triple Card Riggie:

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...ostcount=80876

Turn Card Equity Equalization Riggie:

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...postcount=3315

Dull Hand Removal Riggie:

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...postcount=4015

Balance Dispersion Riggie:

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/2...rator-1758457/

Stars Sitting Out Player Movement Preference Riggie:

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...ostcount=63665

Small Stacks Win Too Much Riggie:

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/2...eflop-1588181/

Large Stacks Win Too Much Riggie:

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...ostcount=80344

Post Flop Riggie

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...ostcount=83866

Pocket 10s in the Big Blind Riggie:

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...ostcount=90419

Sharkscope HUD Download Riggie:

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...ostcount=55306

Cashier Balance Riggie:

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...ostcount=63798

Rat Riggie:

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...ostcount=83996

Computers Cannot Handle Coin Flips Riggie:

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...ostcount=64085

Indestructibly Backwards Software Riggie:

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...ostcount=64086
https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...ostcount=64087

Quantum Entanglement Riggie:

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/2.../#post45684925
https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...ostcount=74304

Entropy Refractor Code Riggie:

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...ostcount=34895

Centralized 80% 15 Player Commonality Riggie:

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...postcount=4121

3 Players Hitting 4 Sets Riggie:

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...postcount=2922

Check Raise Pre-Flop Riggie:

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...ostcount=85028

Lawsuit Riggie (if only he was not from Sweden):

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/5...f-tba-1559406/

Beaucoup Bucks Riggie:

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...ostcount=89806

Laundry List Riggie:

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...ostcount=90228

All Poker Employees are In On It, But None Know About the Rig Riggie:

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...postcount=4317

Poker Players are Not Handsome Enough Riggie:

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...postcount=4485
https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...postcount=4490
https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...postcount=4495
https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...postcount=4498

Russian Forum Insider Riggie Theory (proven fake, but many riggies here believed it and probably still do)

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/2...nners-1359150/

A Known Poker Pro Talking about Rigging that riggies can admire:

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...56&postcount=1

Riggie Lists are Rigged Riggie:

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...ostcount=64405

Average Person Riggie:

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/2...rigged-652355/

Personal Backdoor Access Riggie:

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...55&postcount=1

Rigged When He Loses, but not Rigged When He Wins Riggie:

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...ostcount=83561

Manifesto Riggie:

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...ostcount=64510

Newer Manifesto Riggie:

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...ostcount=85452

Every Single Player Loses Heads Up Riggie (how can this be possible - who knows):

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...ostcount=64895
https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...ostcount=64896

Deterministic Universe Riggie

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...ostcount=64951

Stats PhD Who Does Not Know How to Use Holdem Manager Riggie:

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...postcount=1700

A Person Who Can Stop a Beam of Light Can Also Stop the Rig Riggie:

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Female Avatar Riggie:

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GoFundMe Riggie:

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CIA Notification Riggie:

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...ostcount=84055

User Import Riggie (who only trusts the Swiss)

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...postcount=2618

Rigged Except During Afternoons Riggie:

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...postcount=2623

50 Tabling Robot Riggie:

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...postcount=2706

240% Riggie:

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$100 capped winnings riggie:

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Standard Deviation is Rigged Riggie:

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Foot Fetish Riggie:

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Solid Penis Riggie:

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Michael Jackson Molested Kids, Therefore Online Poker is Rigged Riggie:

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...postcount=4530

Play Money Superuser Riggie:

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/2...money-1407084/

Rainbow Flop Riggie:

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[B}Monochrome Flop Riggie:[/B]

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Cigital Riggie:

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Ace Magnet Riggie

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Rigged only on Sunday Riggie:

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Rigged every day between 7pm and 11pm UK Time Riggie:

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Donks win with 0% Equity Riggie (How? Who knows...)

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I lose to AA 30 times a day but cannot prove it Riggie:

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...ostcount=14353

7 2 can beat AA 100 times in a row Riggie:

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...&postcount=534

Riggies are Rigged:

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...ostcount=68242

Spider Man Riggie: (actually is a very informative thread)

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/5...igged-1420288/

Twoplustwo is controlled by Pokerstars Riggie:

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Rafael Nada Riggie:

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Balancing Vampire Hyper Bot Riggie:

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Simulation Riggie:

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Zombies Come Back From the Dead to FT Majors Riggie:
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Humanity is Doomed / Nuclear Rain Riggie:

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Virtual Reality Dealers Will Replace Online Poker Riggie:
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RnG Stabilization Riggie:

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Rigged to Help Players Who Use Twitch Riggie:

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Rigged Against Players in the Middle of a Bonus Riggie:

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Rigged Now, But Will Not be Rigged in 6 Months Riggie:

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Not Rigged Now, But Will be Rigged in 6 Months Riggie:

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...ostcount=74149

Retro Youtube riggie:: (be sure to click his advertisements to make him some money):

http://www.youtube.com/user/magic612/videos?view=0

A youtube video which proves Lizard People control poker:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-MkGr_GkCY


Non action hand riggie (best theory to date so far):

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...postcount=9416




My riggie commandments:

Commandment 1: Thou shalt ask others to prove it false

Commandment 2: Thou shalt state an opinion and declare it a fact

Commandment 3: Thou shalt hurl personal attacks

Commandment 4: Thou shalt assume

Commandment 5: Thou shalt have no time to test thy theories

Commandment 6: Thou shalt support thy brethren unconditionally

Commandment 7: Thou shalt believe anything is possible with software

Commandment 8: Thou shalt believe nooone with knowledge of a rig willst ever speak of it

Commandment 9: Thou shalt watch Youtube

Commandment 10: Thou shalt present no data


Notable riggie quotes:


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Originally Posted by PokerPlayer66 The great "Poker is rigged" debate - Collected threads edition
Standard deviation is basically opinion since not all information is known.
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Originally Posted by mineshaft33 The great "Poker is rigged" debate - Collected threads edition
I'm not a mathematician but the standard deviation of always getting wort possible scenario certainly isn't normal.I am starting a GoFundMe to raise enough money to outlaw online poke in United spates.
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Originally Posted by Ginyu6869 The great "Poker is rigged" debate - Collected threads edition
I want anyone of you to explain this and do the math. 9◊4=36.. 52-36=16 cards left in the deck and all of them happen to be clubs?
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Originally Posted by Aggie87 The great "Poker is rigged" debate - Collected threads edition
If you adjust your gaming experience TOWARD them your win rate will become even more unreflective of a random standard deviation. Their skim is at the tipping point that turns a normally profitable player into a sheep. If you know your standard deviation is being assaulted do yourself a favor and stop spending
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Originally Posted by johnnysnow The great "Poker is rigged" debate - Collected threads edition
It is rigged and you can't prove it with statistics. Several pro live players have stated that and it's more than enough.
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Originally Posted by vegasbound99 The great "Poker is rigged" debate - Collected threads edition
I did not say that I had not made my mind up I was simply saying that I wanted to debate with my already made up mind.
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Originally Posted by FreddieRivers The great "Poker is rigged" debate - Collected threads edition
Yes everything in the US is rigged , they put stuff in the water to keep people subdued , they have hidden cameras everywhere , they are watching , they are monitoring this site right now , you could even be an agent for them.
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Originally Posted by lolpotodds The great "Poker is rigged" debate - Collected threads edition
'Fact' might have been too strong if you're going to take it literally.
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Originally Posted by ukChuck The great "Poker is rigged" debate - Collected threads edition
You can always insert an another algorithm that take a card index from the CIA and change it to a new card index. But the definition of the CIA here is not respected as we want it to be. In other words, if we respect the definition, the Fish Equaliser is necessarily part of the CIA.
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Originally Posted by PokErasmus The great "Poker is rigged" debate - Collected threads edition
Please keep short your saying and do not reply by writing long novels,
I have no time to read it, in fact I don't read more than the begining lines from your
long nonsense and you are just wasting your time.
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Originally Posted by RMC11 The great "Poker is rigged" debate - Collected threads edition
As a postgraduate in computer science with an emphasis on statistics and mathematical modelling (in short, predicating sediment movement using symbolic aggregate approximation, yes it really is as exciting as it sounds)
I have always been taught that most people overestimate the necessary sample sizes required for accuracy and in fact the true size needed is actually on the small size. Nobody can prove if it is rigged, one way or another. However as a species we need to go back to believing what our eyes see and trusting our instinct.
Therefore I'm out of online poker, goodbye.
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Originally Posted by Acryl2 The great "Poker is rigged" debate - Collected threads edition
i dont have the ultimate conspiracy theory that makes total sense.
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Originally Posted by gooverhylo The great "Poker is rigged" debate - Collected threads edition
Nobody knows exactly so please stop thinking that you know how the apply maths on things you can't know
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Originally Posted by BadBeatEveryDay The great "Poker is rigged" debate - Collected threads edition
They know my username as 2+2 is run by Pokerstars and they will share IP addresses with each other, and match my username on the site to my IP when I post here. Plus it's well known Stars puts software on your computer so they can spy on what you're doing, under the guise of preventing players using forbidden programs,
but it'd be quite easy for them to check what username I as posting under using their spying software. You need to educate yourself about the software Pokerstars puts on your computer when you install the client. They can see what you are doing on your computer while you are on Pokerstars. So if you've ever posted on here while also having Pokerstars open, they know about it.
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Originally Posted by GreenZen The great "Poker is rigged" debate - Collected threads edition
... ooohhh poor pokerstars theire gonna loose so much moneys implementing this extra security !! WHATEVER fusck them riggies and loosers , even if its never bad extra security or satisfing many fish , donkeys , good players running terrible , yeah...........!!! Honestly who really cares
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Originally Posted by Andrej005 The great "Poker is rigged" debate - Collected threads edition
Well, well...Me again after almost 100.00 hands on PPP poker..We can write about sofftwer is riged or not...But I must tell about me today example..2 tims i loose set over sut, all on turn and river goes poker for villian.PPP poker is like face cook version of zenga poker or something like that...This is no RNG poker...no way.
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Originally Posted by pqpqpq The great "Poker is rigged" debate - Collected threads edition
Of course, I like my calculations
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Originally Posted by pqpqpq The great "Poker is rigged" debate - Collected threads edition
Referring to calculations. This calculator does not convince me.
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Originally Posted by pqpqpq The great "Poker is rigged" debate - Collected threads edition
Ok. I am correcting my calculations. Nobody advised anything, even though it was so simple and it shows something.
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Originally Posted by pqpqpq The great "Poker is rigged" debate - Collected threads edition
I did not expect that there would be only one person in this forum capable of any intellectual effort and which does not close in his mental horizons.
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Originally Posted by DonkeyStars The great "Poker is rigged" debate - Collected threads edition
The only real poker is NL holdem cash. That's basically it in a nutshell. Tournaments can be beaten using a hand chart and some tiny measure of common sense. Cash actually requires real skill.
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Originally Posted by DonkeyStars The great "Poker is rigged" debate - Collected threads edition
I still can't beat 2nl zoom on PS.com. What a joke of a site Stars is.
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Originally Posted by wrongfoot The great "Poker is rigged" debate - Collected threads edition
PS and 2+2 are on same servers so getting IP address of posters is no problem for them. Thank god none of you dodos on their staff list. You would have choked the players with ur blurred vision of fairness.
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Originally Posted by Royalflush15 The great "Poker is rigged" debate - Collected threads edition
Thing is right, I know I'm good at poker. It's not due to bad play I don't beat zoom, it's because of ridiculous setups.
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Originally Posted by jack3453 The great "Poker is rigged" debate - Collected threads edition
It is undeniably rigged, anyone with a brain can see it, there's no point wasting hours a day grinding out peanuts at a rigged game.
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Originally Posted by jack3453 The great "Poker is rigged" debate - Collected threads edition
I wasted a year of my life on this riggery before moving on, and now do sports betting. Poker is utterly small time in comparison, much harder, and the sites will ensure you NEVER hit your EV. Sports, the final result is outside of the control of the site, so no potential for riggery, you either accept the odds offered or don't.
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Originally Posted by jack3453 The great "Poker is rigged" debate - Collected threads edition
Sports books are rigged.
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Originally Posted by PokerNV0000 The great "Poker is rigged" debate - Collected threads edition
Iím 110% certain I was cheated on wsop.com I had one winning session in the entire month of March. Even the worst players in the world get lucky occasionally.
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Originally Posted by NeverTheLess The great "Poker is rigged" debate - Collected threads edition
In my behavioral studies, i have learned that, stvpid animals, have beautiful character and beautiful people, have stvpid character .Starting from here, and watching rats, sorry, misspeling, i cam to the conclusion that rats, have no character, they will kill (each other, if no one will play) for 10cents .Even that, they make millions/day, from rake .Starting from here, and having enough proves that is what you're doing, conclusion is that, you're worse that cockroachers.1 This iswhat i think, based on knowledge i haveFor my rats fand.
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Originally Posted by DonkeyStars The great "Poker is rigged" debate - Collected threads edition
A rig that favours newer players is just a ridiculous idea without any basis in fact though. Why would Stars want to drive their higher raking players away? My theory makes much more sense.
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Originally Posted by jungmit The great "Poker is rigged" debate - Collected threads edition
For example sites deal u axes the eact amount of tims it shuld and somene else gets queers Tuesday amount it should bit what if we fing that they care dealing axes vs queens a Lot at the same time nver.?
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Originally Posted by youdontsay The great "Poker is rigged" debate - Collected threads edition
Don't have clue what he or she is talking about sounds like the ramblings of someone that don't have clue never has had a clue or never will have clue.
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Originally Posted by GreenZen The great "Poker is rigged" debate - Collected threads edition
house bots with hyper user abilities that act at the right moments and distribute and are refreshed constantly, and beat u precisely when it matters
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Originally Posted by ukChuck The great "Poker is rigged" debate - Collected threads edition
Pokerstars should stop talking about their RNG and start talking about their CIA.
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Originally Posted by JorgeLorenzo The great "Poker is rigged" debate - Collected threads edition
I voted that poker is NOT rigged. Anyway, my point is that there should be a cold 10-second re-start of the LASER to mitigate any possible influence of quantum phenomena
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Originally Posted by mchine The great "Poker is rigged" debate - Collected threads edition
ni do not think the cards are rigged on any site by the rng. however, i have no way to know that for sure and neither do you. claiming you know it is nott rigged is as dumb as saying it is rigged.you simply do not know.
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Originally Posted by CRUDEFINDER The great "Poker is rigged" debate - Collected threads edition
Well gee buddy, I hope you go all through this thread and chastise the other people whoíve posted dozens of hands about quads
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Originally Posted by Do0rDoNot The great "Poker is rigged" debate - Collected threads edition
I understand randomness and how you will see weird iterations of things in true randomness. However, I see a hell of a lot more quads on Global than Party or Stars, and I am far from the only one. This is too weird to be random.
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Originally Posted by Mars Bar Bar Bar The great "Poker is rigged" debate - Collected threads edition
Maybe I just suck at poker? Maybe my account has been compromised... Either way, I will continue to play
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Originally Posted by dacy The great "Poker is rigged" debate - Collected threads edition
I already spoke how the Doomswitch and Cashout curse are forced by the profiling/model. It is a model that explains pretty much everything that a "riggie" sees and believes happening. It is easy to implement and see and impossible to prove. It is up to the reader to believe whether it is already implemented, or it is just a theoretical possibility.
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Originally Posted by KemiKings The great "Poker is rigged" debate - Collected threads edition
My advice to players is just play freerolls.
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Originally Posted by PocketQueens2 The great "Poker is rigged" debate - Collected threads edition
What is it with shills and their obsession with facts?
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Originally Posted by Ranbato The great "Poker is rigged" debate - Collected threads edition
I do not want to be a riggie. I really do not. Please have a look at this hand:
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Originally Posted by jungmit The great "Poker is rigged" debate - Collected threads edition
Obv one person can not have enough hands for the sample size to be big enough. I have no hand histories. Maybe u can help me
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Originally Posted by lolpotodds The great "Poker is rigged" debate - Collected threads edition
I cba providing hand histories because you'd all work out some way to 'interpret' the data so that it could be explained by 'variance'. Lies, damned lies, and statistics.
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Originally Posted by itsnotrandom The great "Poker is rigged" debate - Collected threads edition
I'll take everyone ignoring my post about the RNG source code as you know it is rigged as well and don't have a reasonable explanation for why the player names are in there. It is because they want to give an advantage to one player over another. It's obvious.
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Originally Posted by iburydoscocaroaches The great "Poker is rigged" debate - Collected threads edition
No people that think poker is rigged is not from losing 1 time with AA vs KK if they won the other 3 times. They wouldn't coomplain over that. What happens is they lose for 2 or 3 months with AA-QQ and they get 2 to 3 outted like 2000 times in that 3 months. And they hardly winning any all ins.
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Originally Posted by tonyk81 The great "Poker is rigged" debate - Collected threads edition
what are u talking about ? cherry pick ? in the same session i lost with AK vs AK all in runner runner flush.
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Originally Posted by Zeus_Poker The great "Poker is rigged" debate - Collected threads edition
You know, when I'm playing poker and I have people limping then reraising after i limp call and face a raise by some who just limped
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Originally Posted by jungmit The great "Poker is rigged" debate - Collected threads edition
Why would they any be rigging any games of any limit ? I mean any rig the site and the site is rigged. If any the rng is rigged create any certain results then rigged for any games any limits.
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Originally Posted by dacy The great "Poker is rigged" debate - Collected threads edition
I also presented the model: Simple network flow theory explains how the money moves from the marks' deposits to the sites' pockets. The marks are the "sources" and the sites' accounts are the "sinks", in network flow terminology. It is a conspiracy theory, but it is a valid theory, so it is feasible, it is possible. Of course, it is up to you to believe it or not, try to fight it or not. I am just saying what my belief is.
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Originally Posted by CantWontDidAnyway The great "Poker is rigged" debate - Collected threads edition
I never used my finance degrees to make any sound investments
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Originally Posted by matt hirschhorn The great "Poker is rigged" debate - Collected threads edition
Dont understand probability? Im probably a better player than 95% on this forum
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Originally Posted by pkdk The great "Poker is rigged" debate - Collected threads edition
I get how fractions work. You are still not understanding what appears to be true is not necessarily true. It appears to be 1/2 , but is not 1/2, the answer is 50% or ?/2 . In R≥ coordinate space and real numbers 1/2 is not equal to 4/8.
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Originally Posted by michael22 The great "Poker is rigged" debate - Collected threads edition
I'm pretty sure that I have no burden of proof cause I'm not a prosecutor
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Originally Posted by DonCheckRaiso The great "Poker is rigged" debate - Collected threads edition
I am no stranger to improving and moving up etc.Form my perspective NL5 and higher is pretty much unbeatable.For me it would be similar to thinking back then ,for example in 2012, "I am going to beat NL1000+ and get rich by playing poker."
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Originally Posted by Dingbatty The great "Poker is rigged" debate - Collected threads edition
in on-line poker the resulting flop and river cards will universally provide some action for all the hands left playing in the pot. I say universally because it cannot be universal as that would be too obvious.
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Originally Posted by michael22 The great "Poker is rigged" debate - Collected threads edition
I'm not dismissing mathematical studies, those studies prove that the cards were dealt random. But that's it, that's all they can do. They don't prove the game is fair. It's not all conspiracy theories, it's not the same as saying the US is lead by aliens.
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Originally Posted by tonyk81 The great "Poker is rigged" debate - Collected threads edition
tsomebody is gonna come and tell me he had X% chance to win so what.
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Originally Posted by johnnysnow The great "Poker is rigged" debate - Collected threads edition
Playing the roulette on Stars is like I ask you to bet with me, I will think of a color red or back and you guess. You say red, I say nope, I was thinking of black, you lose.You can never prove if the roulette is rigged.Same with poker.
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Originally Posted by Lozgod The great "Poker is rigged" debate - Collected threads edition
Itís so obvious what this site is. Itís super users and bots and AI or high action flop turns or rivers or something. It is not a random RNG.
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Originally Posted by johnnysnow The great "Poker is rigged" debate - Collected threads edition
You can't exploit it. For example the software will allow you to triple your bankroll and again you are punished. Can't exploit that either
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Originally Posted by LiamH The great "Poker is rigged" debate - Collected threads edition
I dont need my HH to understand that I have been part of pure nonsense. The HH is what I have witnessed online and I have common sense. Does that change the fact that playing on iPoker is pollution to my brain? Does it change that one week in there made me sick?
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Originally Posted by djz The great "Poker is rigged" debate - Collected threads edition
Imagine the MOST OBVIOUS RIG ever. People prove it and what ****ing happens? Nothing. There's no oversight. Just look at the level of social engagement on the tweet I linked.
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Originally Posted by In_search_of_truth The great "Poker is rigged" debate - Collected threads edition
On the table of coincidence stupidly come on "holidays" because. As a result, you yourself understand that if you nothing is given, then you will not gain anything. I'm now playing only freerolls.
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Originally Posted by BigestDonk The great "Poker is rigged" debate - Collected threads edition
I do not have to go and do any test I know what I know. You type this like you own a wok or a online poker room which you will defend with your flamboyant explanations.
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Originally Posted by johnnysnow The great "Poker is rigged" debate - Collected threads edition
I will never change my mind, the board reacts to reward poor decisions most of the time, if you come to tell me to make poor decisions and print money I will invite you to suck my balls.
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Originally Posted by johnnyfry2 The great "Poker is rigged" debate - Collected threads edition
My position is simple: the software didn't just land here from the skies, it's designed by companies for profit, and there is enough personal anecdotal evidence for me not to naively trust it.
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Originally Posted by rjr777 The great "Poker is rigged" debate - Collected threads edition
I just want to come out and say Iím completely rigtarted. I think there are nefarious people in the world who will cheat you given the opportunity.I will go back to moms basement and keep watching flat earth videos.All the best
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Originally Posted by 6ix The great "Poker is rigged" debate - Collected threads edition
I'm gonna say "duh obv poker is rigged" .
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Originally Posted by dacy The great "Poker is rigged" debate - Collected threads edition
My proof is based my own observations and conclusions, confirmed by the posts of thousands of people before me, not just at 2+2; things like the feeling of doom when far from a deposit, the feeling of spiced up action, and all kind of anomalies that people observed;
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Originally Posted by Lozgod The great "Poker is rigged" debate - Collected threads edition
All these people saying prove it. How else is there to prove it? If I witness a murder and I say I seen it is it on me to prove it or is it on someone like the police to find other evidence? Why do people think this is so far fetched? Like whoa itís absurd to believe someone would cheat on online poker.
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Originally Posted by Sicklucking The great "Poker is rigged" debate - Collected threads edition
lol Funny how theor's like 100 peple om this thred whove played poker agreaing their rng is fukt yet u got peaps who havel neve played on the sie defennding it.
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Originally Posted by Shaunbo13 The great "Poker is rigged" debate - Collected threads edition
Nobody can tell me otherwise bc I just proved it to myself for the last time. Itís totally unbelievable the fact that this isnít real poker. If it was it would be the same randomness at the casino. But itís not. I know, because I said so. The chances of getting hit by lightning are better than that is, and guess what? I have never been hit by lightning.
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Originally Posted by Kopogero The great "Poker is rigged" debate - Collected threads edition
I'll add further evidence. I'm going to provide one hand which is also a blatant example how hard they are working on rigging the software.
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Originally Posted by curseyouall The great "Poker is rigged" debate - Collected threads edition
I will report this illlegal activity again and get banned, and then send a copy of this to the FBI as usual. Get a new account on here and rinse and repeat. I will change everything.
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Originally Posted by whatbox420 The great "Poker is rigged" debate - Collected threads edition
I've made a ****load of money on this site and am convinced that something is strange about the RNG idk what to make of it-kind of sucks that isn't an alternative otherwise I would take my business elsewhere.
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Originally Posted by walkhardbaby The great "Poker is rigged" debate - Collected threads edition
the situations were hypothetical to illustrate trends I've noticed on PokerStars.
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Originally Posted by tilter29 The great "Poker is rigged" debate - Collected threads edition
Poker is a game with cards.
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Originally Posted by APD0290 The great "Poker is rigged" debate - Collected threads edition
What a group of truly pathetic people you are. Everything I said is factual, and every personal anecdote I shared is 100% truthful. I swear on my brother's life on that.
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Originally Posted by jack3453 The great "Poker is rigged" debate - Collected threads edition
I could never even get to 25nl. Explain that?
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Originally Posted by puzzlefish The great "Poker is rigged" debate - Collected threads edition
Assuming it is real, then it may be intentionally or unintentionally there. It's not important to me. What is important to me is to determine whether it is real or not real.
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Originally Posted by Butlerboyz The great "Poker is rigged" debate - Collected threads edition
Basically, it seems as if there's a pattern losing with the best hand after the river.
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Originally Posted by jungmit The great "Poker is rigged" debate - Collected threads edition
being about to take notes on a player is a form of rigging
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Originally Posted by NeedB4Greed The great "Poker is rigged" debate - Collected threads edition
I glean these facts from the wider internet
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Originally Posted by stopthemadnessnow The great "Poker is rigged" debate - Collected threads edition
This is not your typical "oh online poker is so rigged" rant. This is the truth and anyone who denies it simply just doesn't want to believe it
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Originally Posted by Luckboxr The great "Poker is rigged" debate - Collected threads edition
I'm too lazy but I think some other people have also made this same observation in this thread and others. Why are you so interested in this evidence?
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Originally Posted by White_Gatsby The great "Poker is rigged" debate - Collected threads edition
The only way I could give you evidence it's not rigged is if I start winning
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Originally Posted by ToothSayer The great "Poker is rigged" debate - Collected threads edition
I'm a garden variety douche on the Internet posting his opinion.
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Originally Posted by Aggie87 The great "Poker is rigged" debate - Collected threads edition
Your pairs will always get picked off by flush and straight draws. Your flush draws will always get picked off by pairs. And which players will always win? The algorithms put there by the site owners. If youve never heard of a shill then stop all online wagering until you understand how they work. You look around your table and see a guy with a shoeshine box under his seat in a 2-5 game, OK good chance thats a shill for the house
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Originally Posted by loliwin34 The great "Poker is rigged" debate - Collected threads edition
sick of the bad beats in the low stakes cash games, i got all in with QQ against another QQ and 3 guys call all in with 66
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Originally Posted by Levinski The great "Poker is rigged" debate - Collected threads edition
Totally agree w/ OP. Pokers filled w/ a bunch of cucks, fuc-bois, degens, scumbags and soy boys. That is why I was soooo fukn pizzed to see Joey sell his soul, and get owned by the Starts marketing. It reminds of the old tail of Dnegs...He went HAM on the Full Tilt ponzi; only to suck the corporate teet when his corporate overlords threatened his contract$$$. Doug Polk was kinda soy but had massive bawlz when it came to callin out scumbags and ponzi's. I miss my Dougy.Penny's for Stars, they are laughing at you Pigeon pleb peasants. GTO Papi got GTO'd up his bung by the Starts marketing Dept... and enjoyed every fackn minute of it... just check his twitters.
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Originally Posted by GOT TO WINN The great "Poker is rigged" debate - Collected threads edition
The site owner of Pokerstars could be a programmer or part owner. They are not going to tell on themselves.
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Originally Posted by callhero The great "Poker is rigged" debate - Collected threads edition
I think my proposed algo maybe activated very rare, because if RNG is correct, crazy situations should happen very rare, and 95% of the people will not see difference, other 5% who had huge up/downstricks will stop experience them
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Originally Posted by johnnysnow The great "Poker is rigged" debate - Collected threads edition
A rakeless and borderless, transparent, imune to manipulation, corruption and dirt poker world is coming soon, it will boom like big bang and you have no place in it. I don't know wheter it will be blockchain, vr, ai or something entirely new but people crave it and deserve it.
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Originally Posted by JosephB7 The great "Poker is rigged" debate - Collected threads edition
At the moment I have not trusted any bookmaker I have joined forums and blogs trying to satiate my doubts, here I come to implant one of them
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Originally Posted by dacy The great "Poker is rigged" debate - Collected threads edition
I do not think I will ever believe in the idea of "rakeless and borderless, transparent, immune to manipulation, corruption and dirt"
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Originally Posted by GOT TO WINN The great "Poker is rigged" debate - Collected threads edition
I don't personally know owners of any sites. I did know a couple in the past of some smaller sites but in either case I would never speculate on such a thing.
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Originally Posted by GOT TO WINN The great "Poker is rigged" debate - Collected threads edition
I did not speculate on any specific site having a rig or say XXX owner is a programmer. Only that it is possible that an owner can be a programmer and that if someone decided to rig the deal they aren't going to advertise it to everyone.
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Originally Posted by dacy The great "Poker is rigged" debate - Collected threads edition
the number of people who believe online poker is rigged is much higher than the number of people who do not believe Newton, Einstein, and science in general
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Originally Posted by Max Jam The great "Poker is rigged" debate - Collected threads edition
i think it might be the software designers. either way it seems highly likely that tech employees are involved in any online poker cheating. tech, government, a combo of both, then the people that they pay or don't pay to be their friends. chances are they will have to answer to a higher authority at some point. if God is directly telling people to cheat me at online poker then i guess i would be wrong about this. its been pretty irritating.
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Originally Posted by Pistolpete89 The great "Poker is rigged" debate - Collected threads edition
I have already verified that this isn't a figment of my imagination and I have plenty of proof. I'm really being targeted specifically for some reason, I'd like to understand whether this is hurting me or helping me.
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Originally Posted by wolfdogpoker The great "Poker is rigged" debate - Collected threads edition
I have been putting in 5Īk hands on ignition monthly and have put similar numbers into global now for the past few months. Variance is huge is an understatement, I think if the average person had a better idea of how big an effect variance has on their results there'd be quite a bit fewer posts in here. I remember when I first started playing when I thought 30k hands was a big enough sample to draw conclusions from... Like I said, I'm not drawing any conclusions, just offering observations from someone that plays a few sites and has more than the average "I've been playing on this site for 1 week and it's RIGGED REEEEEE".
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Originally Posted by deadfox The great "Poker is rigged" debate - Collected threads edition
The random generator has intelligence. RNG should leave me alone. Don't mess with the winners. I'll disclose everything.
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Originally Posted by Dyna85 The great "Poker is rigged" debate - Collected threads edition
Hold'em poker especially is different because you can know with a 99.9% certainty if there is 100% rigging being done 80% of the time. The more challenging task is to find out what % you're losing because the % software can be adjusted to be anywhere from 5% to 100% rigged.
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Originally Posted by AmAtEuR_backwards The great "Poker is rigged" debate - Collected threads edition
Itís rigged in a way where playing good poker AS IF ITS NOT RIGGED will yield fine results and youíll make money. I do believe ďexploiting the rigĒ by doing things like folding KK
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Originally Posted by Standa The great "Poker is rigged" debate - Collected threads edition
During 3 weeks I loose 40 times with nuts full house against poker
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Originally Posted by dacy The great "Poker is rigged" debate - Collected threads edition
If you are still winning at online poker without being associated with the online poker industry in any formal way, I would be very curious to see your evidence, including a proof that you have not been associated with the industry in any way...
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Originally Posted by White_Gatsby The great "Poker is rigged" debate - Collected threads edition
Quads was just an example you moran! Don't take things so literal! You understand the point I'm making or are you that stupid?
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Originally Posted by pqpqpq The great "Poker is rigged" debate - Collected threads edition
I will not pretend to be convinced by all these explanations.
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Originally Posted by itsnotrandom The great "Poker is rigged" debate - Collected threads edition
I could also point out how a lot of these people who are successful online poker players seem to be attractive good looking people.
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Originally Posted by dacy The great "Poker is rigged" debate - Collected threads edition
The cards for the remaining players in the hand after pre-flop are semi-randomly distributed according to the assigned success rate numbers.
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Originally Posted by somelunch2 The great "Poker is rigged" debate - Collected threads edition
ive lost all my hands where i should have won.
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Originally Posted by rexchex The great "Poker is rigged" debate - Collected threads edition
the people who play 25c sng have severe cognitive deficienies, lower than 90 IQ for sure
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Originally Posted by rexchex The great "Poker is rigged" debate - Collected threads edition
will stream 25 cent spin and gos until I hit 100k of them
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Originally Posted by RFlushDiamonds The great "Poker is rigged" debate - Collected threads edition
Yeah, I'm a life riggie.
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Originally Posted by LimpingManiac The great "Poker is rigged" debate - Collected threads edition
Flopped quads vs quads twice today.
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Originally Posted by slowtroll The great "Poker is rigged" debate - Collected threads edition
even if he proved anything he didnt prove anything because you didnt provide proof about him proving anything.
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Originally Posted by loliwin34 The great "Poker is rigged" debate - Collected threads edition
if someone wants to teamview and watch the bullshit happen live they can , ill make you a beleiver
- what could go wrong with that offer...

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Originally Posted by johnnysnow The great "Poker is rigged" debate - Collected threads edition
And I also love when you ask 'Why would they use a personalized rig to traget you?' everytime when we know that everybody is targeted except house bots and some sponsored muppets
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Originally Posted by itsnotrandom The great "Poker is rigged" debate - Collected threads edition
ANOTHER ****ING IDIOT MOD ****** DUMBASS WHO IS TOO LAZY TOO ****ING LOOK THROUGH A POST OR TWO OR TOO DUMB TO SIMPLY FIGURE THAT 1+1=2. HERE COMES THE MASTER OF ALL SITE DEFENDERS BOBOFETT. WHO HAS NEVER SEEN AN ACCUSATION THAT HE WON'T SHOOT DOWN UNLESS IT'S A WORTHLESS ACCUSATION THAT THE SITES WANT TO PUSH TO DISTRACT FROM THE REAL ISSUES.LOOK AT THE DATE MORON, WHAT DATE IS IT? WAS IT THE DAY I POSTED? NOPE OF COURSE NOT. DID YOU NOT SEE THE POST WHERE I SAID THAT THEY CLOSED MY ACCOUNT AND TOOK THE MONEY JUST LIKE I SAID THEY WOULD??? NO OF COURSE YOU DIDN'T BECAUSE YOU ARE TOO BUSY MOCKING ME AND FINDING TO A WAY TO JUMP IN AND BE PART OF THE CROWD AND SWOOP IN TO MAKE AN IDIOT ******ED STUPID STATEMENT LIKE YOU MADE. WHEN THE NEW OWNERS TOOK OVER 2+2 WHY DID YOU LET YOU STAY? YOU DO JUST AS MUCH HARM TO THE POKER COMMUNITY AS THESE SITES THEMSELVES.OBVIOUSLY WHEN I DID PLAY, I DIDN'T THINK IT WAS RIGGED. MY OPINION IS BASED ON MY EXPERIENCE SO THAT HAPPENS AFTERWARDS WHICH MEANS IN THE PAST. PAST TENSE IS DIFFERENT THAN PRESENT OR FUTURE TENSE. SO THE DATE ON THE VIDEO, IF THE DATE ON THE VIDEO WAS ON THE DAY I POSTED OR THE DAY BEFORE THEN YOU WOULD HAVE A POINT BUT WHEN ITS AFTER I POSTED THAT THEY CLOSED MY ACCOUNT AND STOLE THE MONEY LIKE I KNEW THEY WOULD THEN YOU CAN'T PUT IN CAPITAL LETTERS ASKING ME WHY I PLAY BECAUSE IF YOU HAD TAKEN TWO SECONDS TO READ MY PREVIOUS POSTS THEN YOU WOULD UNDERSTAND THAT I AM NOT PLAYING THERE ANYMORE BECAUSE THEY CLOSED MY ACCOUNT AND STOLE MY MONEY WHICH I SAID THEY WOULD. ALSO FOR YOUR INFORMATION, THEY STOLE $369 FROM MY ACCOUNT WHEN I WASN'T LOGGED IN. HOW CAN YOU NOT CALL THAT THEFT? I CAN'T SPEND THE MONEY WHEN I'M NOT LOGGED IN, AND I WROTE DOWN MY BALANCE WHEN I WOULD LOG OUT AND WHEN I WOULD LOG IN.I CAN'T WAIT TO HEAR YOU DEFEND THE SITE THAT YOU KNOW IS RIGGED AS YOU COME UP WITH MORE EXCUSES TO DEFEND THESE CROOKED SITES. I KNOW YOU WILL, I HAVE SEEN YOUR OTHER POSTS AND YOU DO NOTHING BUT DEFLECT ATTENTION FROM ANY REAL ACCUSATIONS AND DO NOTHING BUT MOCK AND RIDICULE PEOPLE FROM THE SIDELINES BECUASE YOU ARE TOO BIG OF A COWARD TO PLAY ONLINE POKER. YOU WOULDN'T BE NOT PLAYING ONLINE POKER BECAUSE YOU KNOW IT IS RIGGED RIGHT? SO WHY WOULDN'T YOU PLAY? CUZ I GUARANTEE YOU THAT YOU DON'T BECAUSE WHY? I'D LOVE TO KNOW WHY YOU DON'T PLAY IF THESE SITES ARE CREDIBLE AND COMPLETELY RANDOM AND NOT CHEATING ANYONE????
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Originally Posted by bornlooser The great "Poker is rigged" debate - Collected threads edition
But that doesn't stipulate that it was obvious because obviously it wasn't obvious to me.
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Originally Posted by LimpingManiac The great "Poker is rigged" debate - Collected threads edition
I saw, I **** you not, 25 stacks full of action be lost in less than 1 hour. The game was giving people Boat vs Boat, flush vs flush, all these crazy things. I could list all the insane tiny % chance of happening hands (obviously rigged at this point, no denying that). Edit: As I wrote this, LITERALLY as I wrote this, I had my max raise kings cracked by a J6 o fullhouse flop. Luckily, I knew global isn't real poker, so I realized the board was set up against me. There is my proof.
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Originally Posted by ScreaminAsian The great "Poker is rigged" debate - Collected threads edition
astronaut food is gross and i'm sure it's the #1 reason people don't want to become astronauts anymore. so nasa can buy this or fall into obscurity forever, it's their choice.
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Originally Posted by Faen The great "Poker is rigged" debate - Collected threads edition
Since you mention technology somewhere, I'll give you a basic introduction to how poker is rigged. As an engineer I've read about AI. So what is AI and what makes it useful? Well the end of a long story is that, AI helps us classify complex situations, which is the basic property of a neuron. Wow I feel some strange feeling talking about the existence of such a universe which only exists for a brief week after any big deposit (my consistent experience in my entire poker career).
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Originally Posted by Max Jam The great "Poker is rigged" debate - Collected threads edition
i said it seems that way. anyone have the definition of seems?
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Originally Posted by Riggedamortiss The great "Poker is rigged" debate - Collected threads edition
So I was running into a terrible time on Bodog where it seemed like I just couldn't win. 2 outers on the river, I'd have Kings vs Aces etc. I talk to one of my friends at work who is without a doubt a PHENOMENAL poker player, both live and online. 23 year old kid who has already won 20K playing poker this year. Anyways, I tell him of my problems online and how I just can't win. I dare to use the "rigged" word. He immediately starts laughing at me.
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Originally Posted by DonCheckRaiso The great "Poker is rigged" debate - Collected threads edition
What you lose somebody else wins, doesn't necessary imply that your opponent is winning. You both could be losing, its not you are losing so somebody else is winning.
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Originally Posted by QuarantinePoker The great "Poker is rigged" debate - Collected threads edition
Nothing that requires less skill than online poker. Total joke. Clowns. Most rigged entity(ies) ever. Completely ridiculous. Worst players ever win somehow. Total bullshit. I think there are people who kick money back to the sites to win. These people play garbage poker yet win all the time. I am in LA real estate development.
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Originally Posted by jungmit The great "Poker is rigged" debate - Collected threads edition
How would I run a report showing what my win rate when I play call a raise preflop after the flop?
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Originally Posted by Hronmeer The great "Poker is rigged" debate - Collected threads edition
This is exactly what I mean (hand I experienced minutes ago after writing that above) and it's far too frequent I experience similar things. Still, I'll continue playing for the time being
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Originally Posted by Ican The great "Poker is rigged" debate - Collected threads edition
You are typical mindset human - unfortunately you are the majority on the planet and you defeat logic and common sense. Thank you consumer.
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Originally Posted by PartyLove The great "Poker is rigged" debate - Collected threads edition
If you start to delve into the Universe and how people work (The world) then you will understand. Then you will understand a lot...
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Originally Posted by kameshbhai32 The great "Poker is rigged" debate - Collected threads edition
I was some delusional regard, now I'm a shill for casing's? My uncle is in the United States House of Representatives and why doesnt everyone concede its rigged so the regards can gtfo?
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Originally Posted by tilter29 The great "Poker is rigged" debate - Collected threads edition
First let's start with the sample size nonsense. What I did was I wanted to know what it was like to play with a deck that I knew for 100% was not rigged. So I have a deck of cards, I verified all 52 cards were there and would test out some common scenarios. That's why when you have a % it doesn't matter what the sample size is. I also did this with just dealing 6 hands face up and seeing how often AA vs KK or other coolers would happen. Again, the math was right on. That sample size thing is nonsense because when it comes to % it really doesn't matter. Sample size matters when it comes to experience, but not about variance. That's completely wrong. If anyone doesn't believe me, just do it for yourself. Take a deck and give yourself some scenarios and deal them out one time. Shuffle and do it again. Then you can see what a non rigged deck is really like.
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Originally Posted by rexchex The great "Poker is rigged" debate - Collected threads edition
I'm taking on an 11 billion dollar empire of sheisters by myself, going to take a year before I'm best at my format, then I need a statistician, mods, etc, then they're through.
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Originally Posted by jungmit The great "Poker is rigged" debate - Collected threads edition
If they create these situations winners win winning less loses lose less losing
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Originally Posted by johnnysnow The great "Poker is rigged" debate - Collected threads edition
I played cash on stars a few times, you don't need more to realize that the boards are juiced. Just shut up with your large samples theory, large samples are made of many small ones which are ridiculous.
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Originally Posted by Hronmeer The great "Poker is rigged" debate - Collected threads edition
There's a reason why despite the best rakeback I am still barely even, and this is exactly why.
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Originally Posted by dusbeg The great "Poker is rigged" debate - Collected threads edition
Just because I don't spend my 24/7 here like a loser of your sort doesn't mean I don't have a track record, in fact we have sites and tools to keep that. If you want to see my graph well you'll have to suck me for it, but if you do not comprehend the term 300 BUYINS BELOW EXPECTED VALUE then please keep your ******ed oppinions to yourself in the future, thanks.
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Originally Posted by JamesHarrison The great "Poker is rigged" debate - Collected threads edition
I guess, my first suspicions of online poker being rigged came when i was playing on Party, Full Tilt and Ultimatebet, back in the day (early 2000s BEFORE THE POKER BOOM). Just the same way other people suspected it, but i was really young and really dumb at the time so i just kept playing kind of like today but i complain now. I've already emailed 888 20 times, its a rigged scam. They banned me for reporting the violence. Poker players are worse than a violent person or a pedophile because while im being raped or threatened and banned you just sit back and laugh. IDC ban me on Twoplustwo as well. I'll come back with Tor browser 100 times if i get banned 10x stronger than your mortal ass. The high courts of heaven will have your ass that is my firm belief. I cannot do anything on this earthly plane. i wash my hands.
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Originally Posted by BuffStu The great "Poker is rigged" debate - Collected threads edition
I urinate on your fires of hate, and state that you are incorrect in your assumptions. Trolls, haters and idiots who think it is a 100% legit system are fools who need to wake up and smell their own fake chickens!! Also, I would be happy to discuss poker spots with you or anyone on here.

Hope this list helps, and good luck to all riggies on their riggie adventures.


All the best.
01-03-2022 , 02:57 PM
I was looking for this thread. I have played live and online. I don't notice any cheating. I am sure I have been cheated before, but its probably occurred a very small percentage of the volume I have played. It should not affect the overall results for an entire year of grinding. If you are losing then work on becoming a better player. Saying its a rigged is not going to help. The first year I played live and online I lost. It sucks to lose but I didn't make excuses. I knew I was an inferior player. I was getting out played by better opponents who had a lot more experience then me. Then I kept working on my game and improved a little bit every year through small adjustments and experimenting trying different strategies and my results have gotten a lot better. I have profit in live and online games. Its very simple strategy. Trial and error with small adjustments and a lot of patience. Poker is the only gambling game I know of where you can make a bet and be a huge favorite. If you want those kind of odds when you make a bet, poker is the answer. I don't know how anyone would complain about a game where sometimes we have our opponents drawing dead with all the money in the middle.
01-05-2022 , 06:24 AM
And how would that help the riggies ?

Did you forget the 10 riggie commandments ?

Spoiler:
Its still fun to read tho
01-11-2022 , 10:59 PM
Some of those quotes are pure gold. Always forget about the annual compendium and am pleasantly surprised when it apparates.
01-21-2022 , 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Monteroy The great "Poker is rigged" debate - Collected threads edition
Lists
Cool lists. Handulator riggie not get a mention?

Tres sad.

      
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