Hello Dud.

Did you ever find the documentation you pretented to have for some of the major poker sites, which proved that the deal (i.e. all cards) was fair? We all know you don't have any such documentation because it doesn't exist. Now might be a good time to admit that and we can move on?

And why do we need such documentation if we can rely on the math? You're not making much sense recently. Honestly though, you've never really made any sense.

Sure, I have it as I said. I also said its more fun to watch you make assertive claims of being a fool. You know....like no site has probably fair poker.

The best part of this is you carried on for 8 months about probably fair blahs blahs whines while incapable of a simple Google search. I will say the deal aspect of the RNG certification is a half step more difficult to find but no need to be a jedi to find it.

You just keep telling everyone you cannot do anything on your own or for yourself. Its fun.

Intelligent people can prove fairness and that a site is lying if they claimed they were. Intelligent people can also read how a company certifies RNGs, deals, etc.... Its not hard to do. You should try not being lazy. The other downside is, if I used posted screenshots of the labs explanation, you might not have anywhere to move the goalposts. I'd get hate for cancelling the village idiot.

Nah, you don't have any such documentation.

As for the fair poker stuff, you're intent on moving the goal posts. I asked for any major site with a proven fair deal (that question is still open by the way). You messed around for a few months before pointing me to a site that has about a dozen players. Not exactly the proof I was asking for and you know it. But I'm sure we'll clear all that up when you produce the other documentation that you don't have. And why do we need such documentation if we can rely on the math?

Heh, donk amateur riggies for $200 please, Alex.

Updated list comes out in just over a week - see if you can do something to earn a spot. Or do not. In the end, nobody particularly cares. You define boredom. By the way, I made more this week than you do in a year.

All the best.

"We", as in thinking player base, do not need it. It's something potatoes want.

You said no site has provably fair poker. You moved the goalposts after I showed you three to major sites. Much as I proved you wrong the first time I could also do it now but as I said, I'd rather have you continue to make a fool of yourself.

I did give you the name of the test the labs use for the deal aspect of certification. No surprise you are too lazy to even search that.

Here is another tip for you. Well, to be fair it's actually so other readers can see you continue your crusade of declaring yourself a clown.

John Mellor-Crummey/Rice University RNG testing.

Think we all know you will have a valid reply again.

Stay special, its fun.

You remind me of the ?/3 riggie, constantly throwing out nonsense without any proof to back it up.

If you have documentation (you don't) then post it. Otherwise just accept that you're no different to any riggie who fails to produce proof.

Post proof of earnings.

You try hard bit fail at most everything you do. Don't change. Even giving you the proof, you're too stupid and lazy to look it up.

Normally, would never laugh at or belittle someone with a lower IQ but you're special. Special in a short bus kind of way.

You're the one making all the claims and refusing to back them up. Pretty clear for everyone to see. You've backed yourself into a corner here.

Just post the documentation that you claim to have, showing proof that the deal is fair for the major poker sites.

Obviously it needs to be official documentation from the sites and not some rando nonsense that you dream up.

We both you know don't have it, so stop pretending. No more outs, just admit you were straight up lying.

Lol. You're the gift that keeps on giving.

Fun convo I had live with an "online is rigged" clown. I normally don't engage riggies because there's little point, but this guy was carrying on about how site X is rigged because his aces get cracked "too much" there.

Me: You understand AA doesn't always win.
Him: If the site were running an honest game, they would.
Me: Wait, what?
Him: If the site were honest, my aces wouldn't get cracked.
Me: Surely you must understand that if a site made it so that AA never loses, that actually would be rigging the deal?
Him: ...... <crickets chirping>

it's never rigged when you win it's only rigged when you lose!

Virtually every player who carefully analyzes their PokerTracker stats without finding inexplicable anomalies is proving (or at the very least providing strong confirmation) that the site they are playing on is fair.

Good question. Report my post and see if I get a warning and/or an infraction.


Back to this, which you again (as do all riggies) dodged:

Defend or Criticize:

Any riggie claim backed by evidence about a specific rig on a specific site would find its way into its own thread and would be taken seriously by the 2+2 community.

I have no faith in your ability to analyse stats, or do very much else really. Based on your posts I have no reason to believe you are truthful even if you did know how to analyse them. Why would I take your word for anything? Or any other rando on the Internet?

It's the job of the poker site to prove that their deal is fair. Whether you think it's fair or not is utterly irrelevant. That's the point you fail to grasp over and over again.

Noone is dodging your comment, it's just irrelevant. Hopefully I've clarified above

In this industry you are the one who is the complete rando, and you and your ever changing poorly defined individualized needs (that basically nobody else places value on) that you only whine about in a meaningless riggie thread get dismissed accordingly. You also make less in a year than I often make in a week. What can I say, I like competing against donks like you, because of how superior I am in comparison. Its why your kind are always on the fringe doing the whiny riggie/part troll stalky thing as you continue to fail, while I continue to succeed. Amusing how much that clearly annoys riggies, but that is their problem in the end. If you are still not sure what time it is, feel free to ask and I will look at my watch that has more value than your net worth.

All the best.

Hey baller, did you post proof of earnings?

You didn't (and won't). You're the same as Dud and the riggies, lots of theories but no proof.

Low IQ rigrard not trusting of online poker wants operator they don't trust to prove something they won't believe.

High IQ people believe facts and proof. They don't need someone they don't trust to do it. They can do this on their own. Where you ever in a math class and asked to prove your work or did you have your lobotomy at an early age? A square has 5 inch sides. The area is 20 square inches. People that are not dolts can prove that is incorrect because they know math. Players that have large HH do not need a site to prove a thing, because they know math. They understand frequency and can see if there is any violation of distribution by.....wait for it..... almost here.......math!

Please never stop with your display of stupid whining. When I so post the proof, after months of you embarrassing yourself, then you will simply say the labs cannot be trusted where is theory proof. The answer will still be the same....math.

Hey wannabe baller, I look forward to the proof that you won't post because it doesn't exist.

There ya go. We both know you're too lazy to search that info and far to incompetent to read it.

You will opt for a response of drivel. Imagine having a bona fide interest in something and not being capable of a simple internet search. Loosen up your chin strap a bit, I think your helmet might be a little too snug.

Go have some egg nog, I hope you and yours enjoy your holiday, relaxing with loved ones, and come back all fresh in the new year with more repetitive posts.

I did say that my watch has more value than your net worth, so fair enough asking for proof it exists. Here is the proof.

http://www.pokerplex.com/tournament_winners.shtml

I was the December winner and once you read what I wrote about it, you will see it is exactly my style of writing.

I did have the watch, along with a few other items worth more than you will ever have in your life, recently assessed for insurance purposes. The watch came in at just over $30,000 Canadian, so with the current exchange rate let's call that about $24,000 US.

My theory, and I am confident about it, is that your entire net worth is less than that. Since you are into the whole "proof" thing, it is now on you to prove you are actually worth more than $24,000, otherwise every time I remind you that my watch is worth more than you - I am stating a simple fact, one that clearly annoys you, but you being inferior to me is your issue.

See, that is the fun part about being superior, as I am. It makes interactions like this so easy, and it is why I always hope riggies will bring some type of challenge when they appear. All you do is call people "dud" and clearly have zero money. You are clearly inferior, and you know it, but the worst part is how utterly boring you handle the situation! I would suggest buying some wit, but safe to say - you cannot afford it.

All the best.

1. I also have no faith in my ability to analyse stats. I single-table nanostakes games. But there are players who do analyze their stats regularly, and any anomalies would be duly shared in the various poker forums.

2. I never said you should take my word for anything. You have no reason to take my word for anything any more than I have reason to take your word for anything.

Says who? They can choose to prove that their deal is fair, or they can choose not to. Anyone who is bothered by the lack of proof shouldn't play on such a site.

Okay. Similarly, whether you think it's fair or not is also utterly irrelevant.

I will leave it as an exercise for the discerning reader to decide who is failing to grasp various points in this thread.


Everybody is dodging my comment. It's relevant, because this discussion is taking place in a low-content containment thread that exists for giggles and grins. That's kinda the point that you are failing to grasp.

Merry Christmas!!!

Just LOL baller. Just LOL.

You do the opposite of annoy me, you're my little play thing. I get a good laugh from your posts.

Here's the thing about making claims, someone (me in this case) is going to call you out on them. So post proof of earnings or you lose whatever credibility you have left. Granted that's almost zero.

A pic of you holding a sign saying "I am Montesauraus, the biggest shill on Earth" will do, along with your monthly statement. And of course, today's date. Otherwise, it's all just nonsense like everything else you write.

Your watch is worth almost twice as much as my net worth.

You still got that other guy beat.


Other than your standard low level personal attack, I see no evidence of you disproving my claim of my proven to exist watch is worth more than you. Isn't that cool? I wear something on my wrist that is worth more than you will ever be worth.

Now, to be festive we can do a sit down at the tables on Stars challenge like I did with some rando derp years ago who then tried to threaten me via PM. To his credit, he did join me at the table with a whopping $2,000 or 3,000 (which also is probably more than you are worth), but I believe in the Razz game I was sitting with 123456.78 at the time, just for funsies. If you are up for a similar challenge you just let me know, though we would need to have a prop bet involved of at least $10,000 (with escrow). Let me know! Heh, Povs...

What can I say, it is fun being superior and very fun competing against such weak opponents when it comes to making money (I still miss the 2020 Trumpderps who bought me a new house that was fairly well documented here in the Politics forum), but I do hope next year provides at least one riggie that proves to be an intellectual challenge.

All the best.

Nah baller, I make more in a day than you do in a month.

We can make any sort of statement we want if we have no intention of backing it up. Like you. And Dud. In the end, it has no value and you have no credibility left.

If you ever feel like posting proof of earnings to back up your claims (you won't), do let me know. I expect to see them around the same time Dud posts proof that the deal is fair for the major poker sites i.e. never.

The challenge is still open. If anyone out there has proof of a fair deal at any of the major poker sites do let us know.