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The great "Poker is rigged" debate - Collected threads edition
View Poll Results: Is Online Poker Rigged?
Yes
3,452 34.95%
No
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Undecided
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Yesterday , 03:56 PM
You have nearly 500 posts in a riggie thread posting your concerns about the industry. Pretty weird for someone who has no interest or involvement with the industry, but whatever on that. Maybe you do that behavior on a variety of message boards for different industries.

What you apparently have no concern about yet are "intrigued" by is a simulation you created for yourself, so the only one you can really discuss it with is yourself, because it is not an actual thing with anyone else. Again, there are easy ways to show this. If your shuffle/deal thing is an actual thing then can you name a single site in the industry that is doing what you say they should in this regard? You keep avoiding this, because the obvious and correct answer is no, not a single site cares, nor a single regulatory body for the weird distinction you created in your mind. Next step is - does any other customer care? If a ton of customers had your thing as an issue then they can contact the site and demand it be provided. This behavior has happened countless times in countless industries, including this one with a variety of success. The problem you have is that your issue is not one that exists in the industry. The software is verified and approved based on various regulatory conditions. The output (hands) can be studied and would detect anything wrong with the deal (how a few online casinos were caught cheating).

Thus, you are spending hundreds of posts demanding your issue, one that only exists to you on this planet, get "answered." It will not, because as you admit - you are a literal nobody and there are no other people who share your concern or your weird definitions. Its a non-issue pitched by a non-entity. It's literally nothing. It is ?/3, without the entertaining backstory. Now, if you want to use 500 more posts talking about it essentially to yourself, while trying in vain to find personal attacks that have an impact on anyone then go for it as you see fit, but that just makes you a low grade boring riggie, nothing more. Perhaps you are comfortable in that role.

All the best.
Yesterday , 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Monteroy The great "Poker is rigged" debate - Collected threads edition
You have nearly 500 posts in a riggie thread posting your concerns about the industry. Pretty weird for someone who has no interest or involvement with the industry, but whatever on that. Maybe you do that behavior on a variety of message boards for different industries.

What you apparently have no concern about yet are "intrigued" by is a simulation you created for yourself, so the only one you can really discuss it with is yourself, because it is not an actual thing with anyone else. Again, there are easy ways to show this. If your shuffle/deal thing is an actual thing then can you name a single site in the industry that is doing what you say they should in this regard? You keep avoiding this, because the obvious and correct answer is no, not a single site cares, nor a single regulatory body for the weird distinction you created in your mind. Next step is - does any other customer care? If a ton of customers had your thing as an issue then they can contact the site and demand it be provided. This behavior has happened countless times in countless industries, including this one with a variety of success. The problem you have is that your issue is not one that exists in the industry. The software is verified and approved based on various regulatory conditions. The output (hands) can be studied and would detect anything wrong with the deal (how a few online casinos were caught cheating).

Thus, you are spending hundreds of posts demanding your issue, one that only exists to you on this planet, get "answered." It will not, because as you admit - you are a literal nobody and there are no other people who share your concern or your weird definitions. Its a non-issue pitched by a non-entity. It's literally nothing. It is ?/3, without the entertaining backstory. Now, if you want to use 500 more posts talking about it essentially to yourself, while trying in vain to find personal attacks that have an impact on anyone then go for it as you see fit, but that just makes you a low grade boring riggie, nothing more. Perhaps you are comfortable in that role.

All the best.
If he was smarter than a potato and could manipulate an online search he'd learn about the chi-square tests that RNG certifiers use for deal analysis.

Fortunately, he cannot and we can just laugh at him. Equally as difficult to google provably fair poker and see the sitea that try to market based in that. Peak traffic sometimes crosses 50 players.
Yesterday , 04:47 PM
He probably is smarter than most potatoes, and he is trying his best to "cause chaos" and find a way to insult people who are vastly superior to him. I think that is a perfectly valid theoretical strategy for a rando like him to do in this thread, and a few before him had some success with it. One named I think blatantlyrigged was a legend many years ago with his similar routine. However, this guy's version of his personal ?/3 theory/question, combined with his obvious lack of knowledge of this industry (as he admits) and his constantly missing the mark insults just make for a really boring interactive experience.

Now, if his goal was to be as boring as possible as a form of sabotage (in a thread that has no significance) then I guess its kind of working, but that is a plan with no real purpose nor accomplishment, which thinking about it - might be his "thing."

Boring way to end a slow year for riggies, but riggie culture is pretty much dead as most have correctly quit this industry a while ago and moved on with their little lives.
Yesterday , 06:22 PM
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You have nearly 500 posts in a riggie thread ...
Anyone want to explain the irony to Montesaurus?

Have you checked the thread title recently? Whether the dealing of the cards is fair or not is one of the fundemental questions. If it was the non-issue you are making out, why did the sites go to the bother of verifying the RNG? Just answer that simple question. No need for walls of text which avoid the question.
Yesterday , 07:04 PM
For a site like Pokerstars they have to certify it to meet the variety of regulations that apply on a country to country basis, including the USA. If they want to operate there properly then they get certified (along with a whole lot of other things you have no idea about). Not the worst for marketing as well for those concerned about security, though you will never see it as the main messaging in any marketing, because it is not up there in issues that concern the vast bulk of their customers. None of them (sites or regulators) have any deal/shuffle/whatever thing you seem to obsess about.

This thread was created to herd riggies into one place, as otherwise they spammed the boards with their whiny personal theories and trivial bad beat whines. These days that would not be a big deal, as the riggie culture is pretty much dead, but they created a whiny mess during the growth phase of this industry, hence the need to contain them. They never said anything of value, but they did create a lot of noise. Your belief of what this thread is about is of course off target.

As an industry issue, the contents of this thread are a total nothingburger. A riggie went to the Nevada public meeting when they were discussing legalizing online poker. He posted a trip report where he talked about asking about his whatever riggie concern. He was politely dismissed by the Nevada state regulators, because his concerns (much like yours) were nonsensical and detached from how the actual real world works. Like you - he was a total newbie that had no idea what he was talking about, and it showed. It always shows.

Sorry if this text was too much for you to read, but I do not always dumb down what I write just because someone like you needs it to better understand it. I get the riggie turned troll routine you are trying to do in this thread. As I said, it is a pity you are so weak with your approach. You ask "Anyone want to explain the irony to Montesaurus?" and you will get nobody who cares to acknowledge you, because what you say has no impact in a thread that has no impact. For what it is worth, I personally think that it would be fun to have a troll/riggie/derp/whatever that was actually a challenge. Guess I will still have to wait for that to happen, because you definitely aint that riggie.

All the best.

      
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