Your posts make no real sense, even for a riggie, and I assume this process helps you in some way with your issues.

I believe the deal is fair, because if the cards were dealt in any kind of "unfair" manner then it would be easily detected from hand history database analysis, and the power of that tool is something you will never understand, nor accept, but you accepting it is irrelevant, as you do not matter. If you want to create a weird fantasy where I do not believe the deal is fair, then go for it - literally no difference to me. If I genuinely thought the deal was unfair at a site then I would be the first to post about it (with evidence), and I would never do any business there. Still, it seems to be your thing to take what people say and suggest they are saying the opposite. If that is a troll, it is a weak one, and a lot of paranoid people like you do create mental constructs where night is day in all shapes and forms. Your problem in the end.

Now, while I believe the deal is fair and I participate in this industry (and do well) - what you believe is entirely your choice, and I have no interest or obligation to prove to you or any rando anything. You can insist on proof, but that is your issue and demand, not mine, so you will have to resolve that for yourself.

Other riggies just like you (that also failed in this industry) have eventually let go of their need to come back and participate, even on these outdated forums. They have moved on with their trivial lives, and perhaps one day you will, but again that is your problem, and how or if you ever resolve it is of no concern to me. I assume you will poof in the near future and if you come back remind me that you are the Cowardly riggie, as better chance I will remember you at that time, but given that this interaction has been so basic and mundane - good chance even the nickname will not do it.

All the best.

Nice try, Juicy! You were dodging that question long before I asked you to define what a "fair deal" was.

Having said that, let's try a question that can be answered Yes or No:

Have you written to any poker sites asking them to provide proof of a fair deal?

Looking forward to your answer.

That's a lot of words to totally ignore the question. Why do sites verify their shuffle but not the deal?

You should be able to recognize ignorant everytime you see a mirror.

Why are you too stupid to google provably fair poker? Then ask your dull self why 99% of the players don't care enough to switch to the sites with probably fair poker including.......wait for it.....the deal. It's because those with math level understanding above 8th grade can see it on their own without needing the site to show them. In fact, capable math skills allows one to prove a site is not fair, the RNG is off, the deal is off, and any other issues that violate standard deviation.

You're just not very bright. You can rest easy though, almost every site rigs their game to be fair and honest.

Ask the sites. Or ask the Tooth Fairy. Do whatever "research" you want with that weird hot take of yours. In the end it is only your issue, so you deal with it however you like. My suggestion is a person like you should not participate in the online gambling industry at all. It is clear to me that you cannot compete, hence my suggestion, but you are free to interpret that however you like to suit your odd needs. If that means your "research" is ask in a meaningless riggie thread why sites according to you " verify their shuffle but not the deal" then I guess you did that. If that "research" leads you to believe that all sites are corrupt then sure. Your "research" for your personal problem, so do with it whatever you like.

Nobody else genuinely cares of your concern other than to troll you for entertainment purposes, but you manage to be unremarkable in that regard, as you seem to be with everything. I like to keep it simple - you should quit all forms of poker, and never play again.

All the best.

The question was, why verify the shuffle but not the deal? You haven't answered that.

Seems you're the one who's not very bright.

Better luck next time, placard boy.

Or ask the chef if his food is any good. We've been here before. You're a self-proclaimed "industry expert" without a clue. At least you now understand what a fair deal is, so there is that. Please do explain it to the other mugs who are still struggling.

No dummy. Sites have all of the above, as I said dimwit.

Google it. Provably fair poker. You'll even get a link to a ghost town site that specifically brags about the deal. Jump in and join as many as 30 other players taking comfort in the provably fair, by the network, poker. They have your stake levels too, 5mbtc

Let me know when you're capable of answering the question, or having an adult conversation (unlikely).

Until then, let me give you the same advice I gave the other dullard, stay away from the keyboard.

Actually I said you can ask whomever you like to fit your needs. Not sure why you think I care who you actually ask (if anyone). Ask everyone or ask nobody or any variation between that in whatever way you like. Your choice for your individual problem. The reason nobody answers you in a genuine way is because your question is nonsensical and you do not matter. If you need to believe I have no clue about this industry then that is your uninformed choice to make, and I will somehow manage to carry on making more in a year than you will ever make in your life. Nothing you say or believe will ever change that, so create whatever mental constructs you need to help you with your issues. I always ask that people like you do it in an entertaining manner (as that is what this thread is about), but fairly obvious you lack any creativity to do that.

All the best.

I eagerly await monteroy's next annual list of riggie "issues/concerns" to see if "the shuffle is random, but what about the deal?" is added to the list.

I really shouldn't divulge this, but here is the super-secret code for how online poker sites deal hole cards:
There is a similar routine for how the community cards are dealt, but I fear for my life if I divulge that code.

I have not added anything that guy said yet, as none of it has been interesting. Its all been very standard Commandment 1 stuff (Thou shalt ask others to prove it false). There have been a handful of new additions, but they were the more entertaining wacky riggies such as the following:

The question remains open, why verify the shuffle but not the deal?

No amount of copy/pasting code from the Internet, or talking about riggie beliefs answers the question.

The nonsensical question you keep asking is only of significance to you. Nobody else cares. You declaring your personal issue unresolved only impacts you. For what it is worth, this riggie did your behavior routine properly, as he was entertaining.

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/2...tally-1706112/

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/2...41/?highlight=

Pity you lack the ability to be entertaining like that riggie. You are a low grade riggie.

All the best.

Ah, good times. And that person introduced new concepts!

He blended unqualified and arrogance very well, and did it in the math forum when that was fairly active with actual math experts. Have to give credit where credit is due (he has made the riggie list obviously). In contrast, this current guy does the same needless repetition of a meaningless personal definition/question, but completely lacks the fun of that other riggie.

Yes or No: Have you written to any online poker sites asking them to prove to you that their deal is fair?

If your answer is No, then your concern for a "fair deal" is fake news.

So, the answer to the question is No.

Given that the answer is No, you obviously aren't serious about this topic and are just trolling.

Stay well and be safe!

Lots of riggies try to go the troll routine once they give up on their original riggie whatever theory. No idea what this latest one's original nano stakes complaint was - and no chance it stood out anyways. Still, it would be nice if one of the riggie to troll hybrids was actually good at the trolling, as that would be entertaining. Most end up being fairly pointless like this latest one, and repeating the same meaningless stuff over and over does not give it meaning. Just makes it more boring. Hopefully the next riggies will be an upgrade over the current inventory.

Thanks for the lack of insight.

If a restaurant doesn't show steak anywhere on it's menu, I generally don't go in and ask them if they serve steak. Logic lets you deduce that it's likely not served. Most humans are capable of such feats of logic, you're clearly not.

Maybe one day we'll get a proper industry expert who can answer a simple question on shufflle vs deal verification, as opposed to the self-proclaimed experts who clearly know nothing.

Until then ....

Have a nice day shilling, placard boys.

Your analogy, while weird to begin with, does not make sense, since the question you are repeating is completely nonsensical in nature, and is one literally no other human thinks is relevant. Thus, it is the equivalent of you not seeing some made up food item you created in your imagination on a menu, and then continually asking random people while your made up item is not listed. When nobody else cares, because nobody else is interested in your fantasy imaginary food item, you simply repeat the request and suggest your question (which only matters to you) remains unanswered.

It really is a very low end riggie turns troll routine, but seems you are not particularly skilled at this, so guess it is as good as it gets. Even your attempt at a signoff thing makes no sense, other than in your imagination. Weaksauce is the best way to describe your online presence. I would be mildly curious what your original genuine riggie nonsense was about that you likely long abandoned, but really its fine if that is never answered as who really cares. If I had to guess you lost a small amount of unverified hands at 5NL or in freerolls against what you think were worst players. That is always a safe starting point with riggies like you.

You should definitely quit participating in this industry, or continue contributing to it if you like. I have no problem having money move from derps like you to successful people like me, but your best choice is to quit.

All the best.

Let's be 100% clear, I'm more than happy to take an example (let's say Pokerstars) and discuss what they have bothered to verify and what they left out (what's not on the menu).

Your example would just be you asking the same meaningless question. That's all you currently do. If you want to attach some meaning to your little thing then give an example of a site that does whatever it is you want to see and show how they do it to your satisfaction. If literally no sites are doing whatever it is you are imagining that they need to do, then reality is that it is not something that even exists as a topic in this industry other than in your mind. Again, it is your personalized imaginary food item, nothing more.

A lot of people with genuine mental issues construct intricate worlds that only exist and make sense in their minds and are completely detached from reality. Perhaps you are doing this, or perhaps it has an element of low end trolling. Your issue in the end.

You can of course always post your whatever question in other forums that have experts in programming or math or the area of law/regulation it would fall under, but I say that knowing that people like you will never do it. If you did then you would be dismissed, because your issue is only one that exists in your mind, not reality. You want your place to yell at the clouds, and that is what a riggie thread is for. The shame is you are so utterly dull as you do it, given this thread is meant to be a source of entertainment.

All the best.

I figured that when it came to the nitty gritty you would have no interest in discussing what was verified. You're simply here to troll. You want to continue to post as if it's 2010 and you can bucket riggies together. The world has moved on and you're stuck in the past. That conversation is not releveant to me. You're somewhat of a dinosaur.

ps - The only people struggling mentally were the ones who wouldn't understand what a fair deal was. Glad we've cleared that up now.

There is no nitty gritty other than to you in this imaginary construct you created. You cannot change that no matter how many times you want to try.

For what it is worth, I did tell you how you can better define your topic by showing an example of it in practice. That way you can show how company A does it and the benefit they get from it vs. all the ones that do not. This is of course what a normal person would do if their issue existed in the real world, but you completely ignored that suggestion, because you kind of know that your issue is just a figment of your imagination.

But, playing along - since I and nobody else here want to play along with your personalized nitty gritty topic, why don't you bring your specific concern to some other forums that have expertise in the areas I suggested. Post there and see what kind of reply you get, and update this thread with that. If your issue concerns you then this is exactly what you should do, but of course there is a zero chance you will, because your entire premise is just a made up thing that only you seem to believe in. Your problem in the end, but at least its a relatively harmless one. Go to other forums here and you will see genuine Qderps posting similarly weird stuff as you, but theirs is a lot more cringeworthy, so do your best not to progress down that path with your form of mental illness. I actually hope you seek out and get the help you need, but in the end that is your choice to make.

All the best.

Thanks Montesaurus.

You're still struggling with the basics. I don't have concerns and whether sites are legit are not makes zero difference to my life. I don't use them. I'm sure you'll figure that out over time, like you did with the "fair deal" issue.

But I am intrigued. Why would a site verify the shuffle but not the deal? That's a question for those who don't know. It's not a concern, nor a riggie belief, nor some sort of mental issue. It's a simple question that I thought might be answered in a few minutes. We have a couple of self-proclaimed industry "professionals" who seem clueless when confronted with that question. Very weird indeed. To cover up their ineptitue, they respond with nonsense. Or questions like "what does a fair deal mean to you"

Maybe one day we'll get an answer.