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10-22-2021 , 06:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Bobo Fett
Yes, it does matter. A lot. To make it simple:

https://www.omnicalculator.com/stati...ip-probability

7 heads out of 10 flips of a coin (70%) - 17.2% chance
70 heads out of 100 flips of a coin (70%) - 0.003925% chance

55 heads out of 100 flips - 18.4%
550 heads out of 1000 flips - 0.0865%
To be fair, this is not really a valid comparison; you should compare the odds of the result falling into the 7th decile for both runs. 7/10 is still massively bigger, of course, but lets not give the "I can count to potato" riggie any more ammo.

Last edited by Kalaea; 10-22-2021 at 06:10 AM. Reason: Did I say ammo? I meant tinfoil.
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10-22-2021 , 06:14 AM
As I said..."To make it simple".

I'm far from a statistics expert, which is why I suggested the Probability forum if he wants to get serious about this. But I do know enough to understand how sample size works, and figured that would be as simple a demonstration as any. And I think he is looking at it the same way - "So 10% of 100 is the same as 10% of 1,000,000."
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10-22-2021 , 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by sharkbait456
Yes please you can use me as a charachter reference and let me give you a preview of what I will say

List of traits that this individual will bring to your company:

- pretends to be something he is not
- piggybacks on what he perceives as popular opinion, probably due to his small penis
- mocks, dismisses, and personally attacks people for posting concerns about people having their money stolen and then why they mention that they are being robbed, he will mock and make fun of you for it and make you try and think that you have lost your mind
- will say things behind your back when you have no opportunity to defend yourself, again probably because of his small penis
- never acknowledges when a corrupt website that is run by literal criminals does something wrong or unethical like they have done so many times
- the only reason why someone gets robbed by a criminal is because the person is bad at what they are doing even though he doesn't even carry $1 with him because he gets robbed too but won't ever acknowledge this because of his small penis issue
- he will aggrevate and annoy everyone he works with and if anyone tries to have a reasonable conversation he will only mock and hurl personal attacks at them if it is not what he thinks popular opinion. he would have made a great high school cheeerleader.
- he will have a stupid image for his company ID
- he is not very smart, for example he doesn't think a website that is run by criminals has a history of super using and cheating people, has admitted to cheating people, has robbed people, open admitted to robbing people, nobody wins on their site, if someone does win they get their account closed for "bum hunting" or some other made up bullshit for an excuse to steal the money, he actually thinks the site should do it and did nothing wrong when they do this, he can't comprehend that the whole thing he is overlooking is that the reason they close the account is not because of bum hunting but because of the actual stealing of the money, he also then believes these criminals that say that they redistribute the money to those affected when nobody has ever said "hey I got a refund this site that is more than $1.00", and yet he doesn't think that these sites run by actual criminals that literally can make this happen easily with a simple algorithm thinks that anything could possibly not be fair and equal and that these actual criminals might do something shady or illegal to profit from it. Did I mention they are actual criminals and he doesn't understand that criminals commit crimes. Anyone who can't understand that isn't someone who is going to be a good asset for you unless you want to screw over your employees and need someone to piggyback on your policies that are robbing your employees blind and need someone to pretend that they think it is ok and good and anyone who says that isn't then he will attack and mock and tell that person that they are crazy.
- He doesn't understand that the world isn't always as it seems and doesn't understand that people will do things that are not nice to gain money from it. His world view is nothing but fairy gumdrops and lollipops and tip toeing through the tulips while he holds his mommy's hand and they all talk about how great and fair the world is.
- In his world, nobody has ever cheated or done anything wrong other than the people that play online poker and put up their hard earned money and watch it evaporate in the most unrealistic ways possible and yet he doesn't recognize that because that's not what the "cool" kids believe so he pretends to believe the same thing. He is a sheep and will go along with anything if he thinks he will have public support. Again probably due to his small penis and obvious missing testacles.

So if you want someone who is smart, capable, will stand up for rights right, who has high moral charachter, who won't let people bully him, who sees the world as it is, understands when something doesn't follow the rules of nature that there is a reason for it and that thing leads to someone profiting from it, will do the right thing, will help others and be a good colleague, will report illegal activity to their superiors, and anything that involves something positive then this is not your guy.

If you need a token ******. Think of office space and the stapler guy. Then this person gets my glowing recommendation. I'm sure there are tax breaks for hiring people like him.
Am I the only one who finds all the penis-size references downright creepy?
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10-22-2021 , 05:27 PM
Is this nonhuman superuser really multi accounting and colluding against lagtight?
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10-22-2021 , 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by sharkbait456
Yes please you can use me as a charachter reference and let me give you a preview of what I will say
Thanks!

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List of traits that this individual will bring to your company:
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- pretends to be something he is not
I've already told you at least four times that I am not a real person (i.e. I'm a shill). I thought we were at least on agreement on that point.

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- piggybacks on what he perceives as popular opinion, probably due to his small penis
That's only one of the reasons.

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- mocks, dismisses, and personally attacks people for posting concerns about people having their money stolen and then why they mention that they are being robbed, he will mock and make fun of you for it and make you try and think that you have lost your mind
I'm glad you are above personally attacking people in this thread.

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- will say things behind your back when you have no opportunity to defend yourself, again probably because of his small penis
If you actually read what I wrote when I quoted your post, I actually praised you for showing genuine contrition.

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- never acknowledges when a corrupt website that is run by literal criminals does something wrong or unethical like they have done so many times
I've said many times in this Forum that there have always been corrupt individuals and websites in the online poker industry. Why are you lying?

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- the only reason why someone gets robbed by a criminal is because the person is bad at what they are doing even though he doesn't even carry $1 with him because he gets robbed too but won't ever acknowledge this because of his small penis issue
huh???

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- he will aggrevate and annoy everyone he works with and if anyone tries to have a reasonable conversation he will only mock and hurl personal attacks at them if it is not what he thinks popular opinion. he would have made a great high school cheeerleader.
I was given a silver plaque is honor of my being captain of the cheerleading squad in HS. (I was so proud of it, I had in bronzed!)

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- he will have a stupid image for his company ID
I can't help it if I look stupid.

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- he is not very smart, for example he doesn't think a website that is run by criminals has a history of super using and cheating people, has admitted to cheating people, has robbed people, open admitted to robbing people, nobody wins on their site, if someone does win they get their account closed for "bum hunting" or some other made up bullshit for an excuse to steal the money, he actually thinks the site should do it and did nothing wrong when they do this, he can't comprehend that the whole thing he is overlooking is that the reason they close the account is not because of bum hunting but because of the actual stealing of the money, he also then believes these criminals that say that they redistribute the money to those affected when nobody has ever said "hey I got a refund this site that is more than $1.00", and yet he doesn't think that these sites run by actual criminals that literally can make this happen easily with a simple algorithm thinks that anything could possibly not be fair and equal and that these actual criminals might do something shady or illegal to profit from it. Did I mention they are actual criminals and he doesn't understand that criminals commit crimes. Anyone who can't understand that isn't someone who is going to be a good asset for you unless you want to screw over your employees and need someone to piggyback on your policies that are robbing your employees blind and need someone to pretend that they think it is ok and good and anyone who says that isn't then he will attack and mock and tell that person that they are crazy.
I think a lot of this is redundant. Please re-edit before submitting to my prospective employer. Thanks oodles and bunches!

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- He doesn't understand that the world isn't always as it seems and doesn't understand that people will do things that are not nice to gain money from it. His world view is nothing but fairy gumdrops and lollipops and tip toeing through the tulips while he holds his mommy's hand and they all talk about how great and fair the world is.
I also understand that the world is rainbows, kittens and sunsets. (And unhinged riggies!)

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- In his world, nobody has ever cheated or done anything wrong other than the people that play online poker and put up their hard earned money and watch it evaporate in the most unrealistic ways possible and yet he doesn't recognize that because that's not what the "cool" kids believe so he pretends to believe the same thing. He is a sheep and will go along with anything if he thinks he will have public support. Again probably due to his small penis and obvious missing testacles.
I have only one thing to say about your accusation that I am a sheep: BAAAAAA!!!

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So if you want someone who is smart, capable, will stand up for rights right, who has high moral charachter, who won't let people bully him, who sees the world as it is, understands when something doesn't follow the rules of nature that there is a reason for it and that thing leads to someone profiting from it, will do the right thing, will help others and be a good colleague, will report illegal activity to their superiors, and anything that involves something positive then this is not your guy.

If you need a token ******. Think of office space and the stapler guy. Then this person gets my glowing recommendation. I'm sure there are tax breaks for hiring people like him.
Thank you, sir, for your glowing endorsement! Getting a high-paying, cushy job should be a cinch now!

Peace!

Last edited by lagtight; 10-22-2021 at 05:41 PM.
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10-24-2021 , 09:36 PM
a nice stroll down memory lane

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/3...7-1-a-1366439/
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10-24-2021 , 11:15 PM
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Originally Posted by rickroll
Just read that thread. A "must read" (as they used to say) for gamblers everywhere. Both amusing and instructive.

Thanks for sharing that gem of a thread from the Wayback Machine (2013), rickroll!
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10-24-2021 , 11:43 PM
lol that's a good one, meant to share this one though which is more relevant to the great rigged debate

that entire account is a goldmine

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/2...99/?highlight=
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10-25-2021 , 02:26 AM
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Originally Posted by rickroll
lol that's a good one, meant to share this one though which is more relevant to the great rigged debate

that entire account is a goldmine

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/2...99/?highlight=
I couldn't imagine that the earlier thread that you posted could be topped, but the one you just posted above actually did.

The sad part is, there is basically no chance that the OP was merely trolling.
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10-25-2021 , 03:37 AM
TBAB has had dozens of accounts here, and OOT has been happy in the past to let him come back on new accounts at times; not sure if that's still the case. He probably has the largest volume of complete crap 2+2 posts of any one person. At least I hope so - I pity anyone with more.
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10-25-2021 , 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Bobo Fett
TBAB has had dozens of accounts here, and OOT has been happy in the past to let him come back on new accounts at times; not sure if that's still the case. He probably has the largest volume of complete crap 2+2 posts of any one person. At least I hope so - I pity anyone with more.
I would pity anyone with even half as many poop-posts. (Does that mean I should pity myself?)
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10-26-2021 , 07:55 AM
Well well, did some catch up reading. Interesting...
The fact that you banned this dude is a big tell.
On Jokerstars you will never have these sort of problems with withdrawings because you will never get to that part. Jackpots like Spin&Go will always stay in house, their own bots or superusers will collect them. Maybe from time to time they will throw a bone to a popular streamer to bring fresh meat.
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10-26-2021 , 08:59 AM
We are all in it to screw people like you from your $20 bankroll, and the best part is there is nothing you can do about it but whine in a riggie thread where our team of hired shills shut it down before it can go viral. That is the beauty of being part of an efficient Bond villain like infrastructure that has millions of dedicated shill employees. Muhahaha! Also, good luck at the nano tables this week.

All the best.
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10-26-2021 , 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by johnnysnow
The fact that you banned this dude is a big tell.
I'm curious...of what?
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10-26-2021 , 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by johnnysnow
Well well, did some catch up reading. Interesting...
The fact that you banned this dude is a big tell.

On Jokerstars you will never have these sort of problems with withdrawings because you will never get to that part. Jackpots like Spin&Go will always stay in house, their own bots or superusers will collect them. Maybe from time to time they will throw a bone to a popular streamer to bring fresh meat.
Apparently, you didn't do quite enough catch-up reading. itsnotrandom made it unambiguously clear that he was completely done posting on this site, so a moderator assumed he wasn't lying and banned him. (That's why under his SN it says "self-banned".)

itsnotrandom straightaway created a new account here (sharkbait456), under which he has made several posts in this thread and has not been banned.

Be well and stay safe!
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10-26-2021 , 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Bobo Fett
I'm curious...of what?
That you and all of the other mods around here are a bunch of dirty rotten so-and-so's?
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10-26-2021 , 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by lagtight
Apparently, you didn't do quite enough catch-up reading. itsnotrandom made it unambiguously clear that he was completely done posting on this site, so a moderator assumed he wasn't lying and banned him. (That's why under his SN it says "self-banned".)

itsnotrandom straightaway created a new account here (sharkbait456), under which he has made several posts in this thread and has not been banned.

Be well and stay safe!

From what I recall, maybe I am wrong (my time is too important to browse history posts) Monteroy himself threatened a few times to be done with this thread and not post again. Hmm, maybe was underpaid and couldn't afford his rolex cereals. Nvm, nobody banned him?
Several, several posters said the same, never got banned.
Yet, this dude won a 50k Jackpot, never got paid. Site decided he is a problem gambler and shut his account.
He comes here to talk about it, you pick at him like snakes and try to play self-banned card, just like the poker site. From what I understand he never self excluded from them or this infected forum. What surprises me is that you kept his posts and didn't delete them, maybe you thought he messed all up with other theories (of which, some may hold some truth) and decided he sounds ridiculous enough to not be a threat, anyway you post right after plenty of **** to cover it up and create new pages so all stays behind. This new bald dick will fill pages with dumb posts like 'well I am not sure about that but you may ask someone who knows' and basically write an essay about him not knowing ****.
Monteroy, $20 from me, $20 from another few hundred thousands adds up quickly, don't try to play this game with me dog.
You are too sticky in here for someone that does not think poker is rigged and too eager to wash the balls of poker sites owners. You stink like bad cheese and have red flas on your foreheads.
Someone said Monte was a bully in school, nah it's too obvious he got locked in the closet much and is seeking revenge now.
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10-26-2021 , 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by johnnysnow
From what I recall, maybe I am wrong (my time is too important to browse history posts) Monteroy himself threatened a few times to be done with this thread and not post again. Hmm, maybe was underpaid and couldn't afford his rolex cereals. Nvm, nobody banned him?

Several, several posters said the same, never got banned.

Yet, this dude won a 50k Jackpot, never got paid. Site decided he is a problem gambler and shut his account.

He comes here to talk about it, you pick at him like snakes and try to play self-banned card, just like the poker site. From what I understand he never self excluded from them or this infected forum. What surprises me is that you kept his posts and didn't delete them, maybe you thought he messed all up with other theories (of which, some may hold some truth) and decided he sounds ridiculous enough to not be a threat, anyway you post right after plenty of **** to cover it up and create new pages so all stays behind. This new bald dick will fill pages with dumb posts like 'well I am not sure about that but you may ask someone who knows' and basically write an essay about him not knowing ****.

Monteroy, $20 from me, $20 from another few hundred thousands adds up quickly, don't try to play this game with me dog.

You are too sticky in here for someone that does not think poker is rigged and too eager to wash the balls of poker sites owners. You stink like bad cheese and have red flas on your foreheads.

Someone said Monte was a bully in school, nah it's too obvious he got locked in the closet much and is seeking revenge now.
No. The guy is a clown. I'm an agent on GG and tries to help him. He said I was a paid shill and in on some elaborate scam to hurt him.

He has mental problems. Last place he should be is around poker or gambling.
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10-26-2021 , 04:03 PM
50k missing can make you lose control, no?
You are an agent, okay, ask them about the guy that recently won the bb jackpot and tell us the full story. I post again because I am very curious and I'm sure many guest are wondering also. I was a victim of something similar recently, what happened I was playing slots and accidentaly increased the bet to maximum then got the best deal x500, all in all it was around 10k and it was too obvious they where trying to hold it and not give up. Had to contact police and national gambling organization to sort it out. Verification which is stated clearly takes 24-48h took 2 weeks. When chatting with them of course I was angry qnd they threatened to close account if I bother them too much. What kind of people open gambling sites? Unscrupulous, money hungry, selfish people and they would go to any length to protect and increase their capital. Legal and illegal if they got support and influence.
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10-26-2021 , 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by johnnysnow
50k missing can make you lose control, no?
You are an agent, okay, ask them about the guy that recently won the bb jackpot and tell us the full story. I post again because I am very curious and I'm sure many guest are wondering also. I was a victim of something similar recently, what happened I was playing slots and accidentaly increased the bet to maximum then got the best deal x500, all in all it was around 10k and it was too obvious they where trying to hold it and not give up. Had to contact police and national gambling organization to sort it out. Verification which is stated clearly takes 24-48h took 2 weeks. When chatting with them of course I was angry qnd they threatened to close account if I bother them too much. What kind of people open gambling sites? Unscrupulous, money hungry, selfish people and they would go to any length to protect and increase their capital. Legal and illegal if they got support and influence.
Sure. I'll call JC up amd demand an explanation for 2+2.

Not sure you understand much of any of this and how it works and probably pointless to explain.

I did try to explain to the riggie that isnt good at math and name calls everyone how to find out about trying to find answers.

I'll say this, some well known grievances and accusations about GG were not exactly the full story. Like players having funds confiscated for bunhunting after strict warning about continued activity and clear statement saying I'd you try to circumvent the warning by using another skin or creating a new account it will result in confiscation of funds. Someone that had funds frozen had asked me privately if I could help. Imagine my surprise when they said they did exactly what the warning about confiscating funds said re another account.

I tries to help itsnotrandom in this thread and his response was one of sheer unadulterated stupidity and accusing me of being in on it. Naturally, that ended any of my interest in seeing him get resolution.

I have winning players on GG that have withdrawn funds monthly for well over a year. They do not violate TOS. GG has given me a warning about my agency balance as it pertains to their ecology, twice.
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10-26-2021 , 04:41 PM
Wait, do we actually believe the dude hit the bbj? Thought it was one massive troll tbh.
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10-26-2021 , 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by johnnysnow
From what I recall, maybe I am wrong (my time is too important to browse history posts) Monteroy himself threatened a few times to be done with this thread and not post again.
Not sure what you are talking about, other than long ago we would organize blocks of times where shills would not participate to see what the thread would be like when it was only riggies. Was kind of dull, as riggies tend to parallel play like toddlers rather than work together, and the fun in theory was watching silly riggies try to work and think together.

I certainly post less in the thread now, because online poker riggies are kind of a dying species, as most have had to quit an industry they could not compete in, such as I assume you (whoever you are) at this point. Most riggies now are pretty much bad beat whiners or people who did something dirty yet do not tell the whole story, like the latest dude.


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Originally Posted by johnnysnow
Hmm, maybe was underpaid and couldn't afford his rolex cereals. Nvm, nobody banned him?
Several, several posters said the same, never got banned.
Who cares. He has multiple low post count accounts, probably like you. Gives him a chance to vote in the riggie poll multiple times. Kind of sad that with all the multi accounting riggies they still cannot get a riggie poll in a riggie thread to be above 35% rigged.


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Originally Posted by johnnysnow
Yet, this dude won a 50k Jackpot, never got paid. Site decided he is a problem gambler and shut his account.
There is likely a lot more to the story than what he has said. He made up all sorts of claims that were easily disproven. You can believe him at face value if you want to be naive like that, but if he genuinely lost that money and he did nothing wrong (account in his name, not a multi account etc) then he would not be here screaming about his inability to do addition and posting a couple hours of partial hand history data. He would lay out all the details in a proper manner, along with all the communication in a new thread in this forum.



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Originally Posted by johnnysnow
He comes here to talk about it, you pick at him like snakes and try to play self-banned card, just like the poker site. From what I understand he never self excluded from them or this infected forum. What surprises me is that you kept his posts and didn't delete them, maybe you thought he messed all up with other theories (of which, some may hold some truth) and decided he sounds ridiculous enough to not be a threat, anyway you post right after plenty of **** to cover it up and create new pages so all stays behind. This new bald dick will fill pages with dumb posts like 'well I am not sure about that but you may ask someone who knows' and basically write an essay about him not knowing ****.
The dude posted multiple false claims and then went full riggie with the super user changing user names to troll him crazy. If you want to believe him then say you believe him. That would be entertaining.


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Originally Posted by johnnysnow
Monteroy, $20 from me, $20 from another few hundred thousands adds up quickly, don't try to play this game with me dog.
Whatever you want to believe. If you want to believe that hundreds of thousands of people are all part of a secret cabal, all working together and remaining silent to steal 20 bucks here and there from randos - go for it. Riggies and common sense are not a natural combination.


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Originally Posted by johnnysnow
You are too sticky in here for someone that does not think poker is rigged and too eager to wash the balls of poker sites owners. You stink like bad cheese and have red flas on your foreheads.
Someone said Monte was a bully in school, nah it's too obvious he got locked in the closet much and is seeking revenge now.
If saying that makes you feel better about yourself that is great. No difference to me what your inferiority issues are. You can get help with those, or do not. You should quit all forms of poker, and perhaps one day start being a bit more aware that people with a documented history of lying should not have what they say taken at face value, especially when there are simple alternative ways for them to present their information to get a healthy sum of money back if they are telling the truth.

All the best.
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10-26-2021 , 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by johnnysnow
From what I recall, maybe I am wrong (my time is too important to browse history posts) Monteroy himself threatened a few times to be done with this thread and not post again. Hmm, maybe was underpaid and couldn't afford his rolex cereals. Nvm, nobody banned him?
Several, several posters said the same, never got banned.
Yet, this dude won a 50k Jackpot, never got paid. Site decided he is a problem gambler and shut his account.
He comes here to talk about it, you pick at him like snakes and try to play self-banned card, just like the poker site. From what I understand he never self excluded from them or this infected forum. What surprises me is that you kept his posts and didn't delete them, maybe you thought he messed all up with other theories (of which, some may hold some truth) and decided he sounds ridiculous enough to not be a threat, anyway you post right after plenty of **** to cover it up and create new pages so all stays behind. This new bald dick will fill pages with dumb posts like 'well I am not sure about that but you may ask someone who knows' and basically write an essay about him not knowing ****.
Monteroy, $20 from me, $20 from another few hundred thousands adds up quickly, don't try to play this game with me dog.
You are too sticky in here for someone that does not think poker is rigged and too eager to wash the balls of poker sites owners. You stink like bad cheese and have red flas on your foreheads.
Someone said Monte was a bully in school, nah it's too obvious he got locked in the closet much and is seeking revenge now.
Hi, Johnnysnow.

Here is the relevant part of itsnotrandom's post in which he did a lot more than merely threaten to stop posting:

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Originally Posted by itsnotrandom
Plus the last thing on earth I want to do is post on this site and talk to any of you trolls. Who do nothing but mock and bash and ridicule anyone who makes a claim different than what you believe. I'm not having my day being ruined for a short time by you miserable ****s so enjoy. You have the forum to yourselves. No more riggie from me as there is no point in trying to have a discussion with someone who doesn't want to have one.
I was a bit disappointed when I saw that he had been banned, because he was one of the more entertaining riggies we've had in these here parts in a while.

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Sure. I'll call JC up amd demand an explanation for 2+2.

Not sure you understand much of any of this and how it works and probably pointless to explain.


I did try to explain to the riggie that isnt good at math and name calls everyone how to find out about trying to find answers.


I'll say this, some well known grievances and accusations about GG were not exactly the full story. Like players having funds confiscated for bunhunting after strict warning about continued activity and clear statement saying I'd you try to circumvent the warning by using another skin or creating a new account it will result in confiscation of funds. Someone that had funds frozen had asked me privately if I could help. Imagine my surprise when they said they did exactly what the warning about confiscating funds said re another account.

I tries to help itsnotrandom in this thread and his response was one of sheer unadulterated stupidity and accusing me of being in on it. Naturally, that ended any of my interest in seeing him get resolution.

I have winning players on GG that have withdrawn funds monthly for well over a year. They do not violate TOS. GG has given me a warning about my agency balance as it pertains to their ecology, twice.
Our "friend" ranted and raved about how GG was "stealing" from pots he had won, which would have been easily forestalled if he understood basic arithmetic and how to read text from a hand-replayer.

After that was explained to him, he moved on to another tirade about getting ripped-off, which involved him not understanding that a game with a Jackpot typically has a Jackpot fee to fund it. Even a basic understanding of the rules of the game he was playing would have forestalled his claim of being ripped-off.

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Originally Posted by johnnysnow
From what I recall, maybe I am wrong (my time is too important to verify if I'm telling the truth or not) Monteroy himself threatened a few times to be done with this thread and not post again. Hmm, maybe was underpaid and couldn't afford his rolex cereals. Nvm, nobody banned him?
Several, several posters said the same, never got banned.
Yet, this dude won a 50k Jackpot, never got paid. Site decided he is a problem gambler and shut his account.
He comes here to talk about it, you pick at him like snakes and try to play self-banned card, just like the poker site. From what I understand he never self excluded from them or this infected forum. What surprises me is that you kept his posts and didn't delete them, maybe you thought he messed all up with other theories (of which, some may hold some truth) and decided he sounds ridiculous enough to not be a threat, anyway you post right after plenty of **** to cover it up and create new pages so all stays behind. This new bald dick will fill pages with dumb posts like 'well I am not sure about that but you may ask someone who knows' and basically write an essay about him not knowing ****.
Monteroy, $20 from me, $20 from another few hundred thousands adds up quickly, don't try to play this game with me dog.
You are too sticky in here for someone that does not think poker is rigged and too eager to wash the balls of poker sites owners. You stink like bad cheese and have red flas on your foreheads.
Someone said Monte was a bully in school, nah it's too obvious he got locked in the closet much and is seeking revenge now.
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10-26-2021 , 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by johnnysnow
What surprises me is that you kept his posts and didn't delete them, maybe you thought he messed all up with other theories (of which, some may hold some truth) and decided he sounds ridiculous enough to not be a threat
Yeah, imagine that! Could it possibly be that mods actually aren't motivated by suppressing posts that are critical of poker sites? That might explain the thousands and thousands of posts on 2+2 that are critical of pretty much every poker site that has ever existed, and have never been deleted. Or the fact that the poster in question created a new account the very next day, which hasn't been banned.
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10-26-2021 , 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Bobo Fett
Yeah, imagine that! Could it possibly be that mods actually aren't motivated by suppressing posts that are critical of poker sites? That might explain the thousands and thousands of posts on 2+2 that are critical of pretty much every poker site that has ever existed, and have never been deleted. Or the fact that the poster in question created a new account the very next day, which hasn't been banned.
Please stop polluting our dear Riggie thread with facts. Thanks in advance.
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