That was a very mature answer and completely what I expected because you act just like the people on the site do. All anyone has to do if they are unsure if the site is rigged and the hands are set up is to simply **** talk one of the "players" because they will instantly get a cooler sick hand and a message in the chat and then that play disappears. It is like clockwork.

You haven't answered the question though. Stupid or a cheater?

Maybe you will just call me a do do head again but you keep dodging the question. Since you work so closely with them can you tell everyone what it is that you do? I don't know what an agent is so I'm curious what someone who works closely with GGpoker would actually do and how you could possibly think that this site is on the up and up.

At this point it is safe to assume that literally nobody else cares how this resolves for you. A few people, including myself, gave some genuine advice and quickly identified your mundane situation (despite your wacky yelling), though I did so knowing it would be of no use given your posts.

You are stuck being you for your entire life, so in the end that is your problem. Nobody else cares in the slightest, but thanks for contributing to the riggie thread. Be sure to vote in the poll! Feel free to say I , as well as everyone else, is immature, without the slightest bit of self awareness of how you interact with other humans. Makes it more amusing when you do that.

All the best.

@itsnotrandom

Stop lying to yourself! You are using fake screenshots, or you did make a fake account or break the terms and conditions of GGpoker what a dwed said earlier. You are holding a big mirror in all what you are posting here. Search the word: Narcissistic behavior (Bad human behavior).
You want attention or make GGpoker look bad for something they did to you because of your own action.

Fake screenshots? OK, pretty sure that isn't true and how on earth would I be able to do all of that? This is hilarious because you are just trying to make me look bad to distract from what GGPoker is doing.

So you like playing online poker and being robbed and cheated? That's what you aim for when you play? It must be by way you make false accusations that nobody will believe and say that this whole thing is my fault.

I just went through a couple of hand histories since I received a response back from PokerTracker. I went through one and guess what I found??? You guessed it, theft.

Poker Hand #HD666728307: Hold'em No Limit ($25/$50) - 2021/10/03 00:20:39
Table 'VH Deep1' 6-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: 37ad9a2d ($2,500 in chips)
Seat 3: d4a3a08 ($4,706.75 in chips)
Seat 4: 30c05e34 ($2,862.5 in chips)
Seat 5: 40aaaabb ($5,575 in chips)
Seat 6: Hero ($2,545 in chips)
Hero: posts small blind $25
37ad9a2d: posts big blind $50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to 37ad9a2d
Dealt to d4a3a08
Dealt to 30c05e34
Dealt to 40aaaabb
Dealt to Hero [7c Jc]
d4a3a08: folds
30c05e34: folds
40aaaabb: raises $100 to $150
Hero: raises $525 to $675
37ad9a2d: folds
40aaaabb: folds
Uncalled bet ($525) returned to Hero
d4a3a08: shows [2c]
*** SHOWDOWN ***
Hero collected $332.5 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $350 | Rake $17.5 | Jackpot $0 | Bingo $0
Seat 1: 37ad9a2d (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: d4a3a08 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: 30c05e34 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: 40aaaabb (button) folded before Flop
Seat 6: Hero (small blind) collected ($332.5)

As you can see at the start of the hand, I had a stack of $2545 and collected $332.50 which should equal $2877.50 and what I should start the next hand with correct? Well the next hand I start with $27,750. $150 stolen

Poker Hand #HD666728321: Hold'em No Limit ($25/$50) - 2021/10/03 00:21:04
Table 'VH Deep1' 6-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: 37ad9a2d ($2,450 in chips)
Seat 2: 29db6f75 ($10,842.85 in chips)
Seat 3: d4a3a08 ($4,706.75 in chips)
Seat 4: 30c05e34 ($2,862.5 in chips)
Seat 5: 40aaaabb ($5,425 in chips)
Seat 6: Hero ($2,727.5 in chips)

So that is one hand checked and $150 stolen. If I go through these one by one then I'm sure to find thousands of dollars. But that doesn't mean anything right? You don't care because this is the type of behavior that you want to have in a poker site since you defend them. If adewd works so closely with them then this is more that I found in 5 minutes that he has the entire time he has been working so closely with them and found nothing wrong.

Also I went in the cashier and looked to see if I had been credited the money from the tournament that was cancelled and sure enough I did. I was credited $390. Then I realized and check my notes of my account balance that this was the same day that I had $369 missing from my account in between log ins. Hmmm so that is $519 that I have found in just a few minutes. Just think what I will find when I spend all night going through this. What total would make you concerned? I know it is zero because you already knew before you tried to discredit me. The more you deny it then the more I will provide and you will keep looking more and more foolish.

I am not trying to win an argument here but am trying to show what is going on to prevent others from being stolen from like I have been. I can't think of anyone who plays online poker that wouldn't want to know this so that they can save themself the trouble of getting scammed in the future.

Just send them your documents and you're done! You agreed to their ToS when you created an account. It looks to me, you want attention. You are no different from other people in regard the documents. The screenshots and hand history can all be fake... (Photoshop) That is no proof. So many lies from so many people... And if GGpoker is stealing... I'll only find out when I play at GGpoker myself.

The only legit complaint you can make is that they seem to rake pots that do not see a flop (LOL at that). Otherwise the numbers add up fine.

Seat 6: Hero ($2,545 in chips)

you post a small blind of $25

raises to 150 before you

you 3 bet (then the person folds)

what that means is you collect from the pot - the 150 from the other player + the 50 big blind. You also collect back the money you put into the pot, but net you gained the 150 (what other player raised before folding)+50 (big blind that folded) = 200 less the rake (which is $17.50). Your net increase is thus 200-17.50 = 182.50. The $332.50 you "collect" includes $150 of your own money to match the bet of the raiser.

Your stack before this hand was $2,545. Your stack at the start of the next hand was $2,727.50. Shockingly 2,545+ net gain of 182.50 = 2,727.50!!

Nothing was stolen. You just have no idea how to do simple math. Send in your documents and assuming you did not break any ToS you will get your money and never gamble again after.

All the best.

I don't want attention, if I wanted attention I would be making this more about how they toyed with me and ****ed with me and gave me a jackpot that they had no intention of paying out.

If you read my posts, you will see that I have made this about GG being rigged, and super users not about my jackpot. So actually I would make the strong argument that I don't want attention at all. I mentioned the jackpot one time, if it was about me that is all I would be saying but I am not. The reason is because I want to spread the word so that others can avoid this. Your whole logic makes no sense. Why on earth would I want attention? It's so dumb and do you think if I did that I would go about it like this? I only mentioned the jackpot because it is an obvious indication that they set up the hands and the RNG is rigged.

If you are saying that it is completely random and not rigged and these coincedences are just coincedences then they should have no problem giving me my money when I send them my documents then right? I guarantee you that I will see zero of these dollars. I Guarantee you that.

How dumb would I have to be to believe that when a site allows me to make a deposit, takes my bets on the table, then cheats the me, then plays a trick on me to set up a jackpot that he can't have because they don't think he can withdraw it because his account is not verified, they are stealing from his account left and right, he is paying assloads of rake, they cancelled a tournament he was in, they refunded that money and then took it back when he wasn't logged in, and then gets cheated by one of the worlds top players and you think that these people are going to just let me cash out when I send them my documents?

I am not that naive and let me just ask you why do you keep jumping on these documents??? It is very strange that you keep bringing that up when I haven't. I haven't issued this as being a concern one single time and yet you keep bringing it up and won't let it go. Why is that? It's strange ..

You know the more I think about this it just doesn't sit right and I can't help but think that you are with the site. You would have to be with the site because you keep hounding on these documents, and I have never voiced it as a concern not even one single time. So the fact that you keep bringing it up tells me that you are with the site, you guys set me up because you don't think I can provide these documents. That's what it is and it is the only thing that makes sense. You just keep proving your guilt with every post. And now that I think of it you even brought this up in the other thread as well. You definately work with the site or for the site. It's obvious now. Which also proves that you set me up, which means you can set up the hands, the RNG is not random, and therefore making it rigged. There is no other reason why you would keep mentioning this unless you were with the site and had this planned all along.

Good post, Monteroy. Too bad our new "friend" will be either unwilling or unable to comprehend it.

Point of Information: I am not a real person, either.

Well you are right about one thing. I don't understand it. My whole life I am terrible with counting things. I used to deal blackjack and counting the money at the end of the night, I always would get the wrong amount. I would sometimes get confused what 1.5x the amount bet was on blackjacks. It doesn't matter anyway and I'm laying down my gloves. I realize this was silly and dumb on my part. I apologize to anyone I offended and for getting too emotional. It is one of my many flaws and for that I apologize. I will give you credit because you really had me going at first. I really thought I had won it. I should have known, I think my family knew but didn't tell me. Oh well.

GG GGPoker! Well Played! You definately set the trap alright!

This is my last post but I have to clarify something before I go. We both know I didn't fake those screenshots and didn't use photoshop to fake a HH. That is beyond ridiculous. I guarantee you what you did was when you were snooping around my computer you saw my poker folder where I have decks of cards that I made and stuff like that and you think I was gonna try and create some fake evidence right? I can see why you would think that but I promise you that was not my intent. It is just something I do once in a while to past the time. I tried to create a deck of cards that are different because I know on some sites you can replace their tables and cards with your own. I just did it for a hobby and for something to do. If you go back and look at those folders and look at the dates they were created then you can see that it was way way before any of this happened and if I had planned that then I would have spent time this week making new stuff but I haven't touched that folder. It's just something I mess around with for fun. Not something I was going to try and fake evidence.

One thing you guys should know about me is that I don't cheat and that I am honest. Which is one of the reasons why I hate being cheated so much because I don't agree with it and think it is cowardly. I also don't know any of you and don't know what it is like to walk in your shoes and I don't know your situation and so who am I to judge. I can be narrow minded and ignorant so for that I apologize. I didn't have any ill intent to personally offend anyone or hurt anyone. I just have a bad temper and need to not get so emotional. It's the next skill I will work on and learn to master.

GG GGpoker! Well played

No human on this earth is perfect! We all make mistakes, even Einstein made mistakes.
When you can admit that you are wrong, in my opinion you are the man or woman and you have learned something again. Don't let other people put you down, we all have qualities. Look for what you are good at and move on!

The bolded says all you need to know about our friend itsnotrandom.

Moderator: You might want to consider invoking the "mercy rule" and temp-ban this poster and delete the above post. I personally don't enjoy watching delusional people humiliate themselves in public.

In science, they called them cranks. People who think they figure out the great conspiracy with faulty scientific evidences.

Most famous crank of all time was Ted Kaczynski.

Sure you can ban me for being paranoid and for "delisions" and for humilating myself because I could have some delusions but I also believe that I have found evidence. If you want to consider evidence delusion then who is delusional?

For example, I thought they were stealing from me because I would see amounts missing from my account and my instincts just said that something was off and that the numbers weren't right. I fully admit to being an idiot sometimes and so I seek the help from others who are smarter than me and know more than I do about certain subjects. So I asked someone else to look at the HH I posted here and what they found was theft or at least an error but it wasn't an error how I thought it was.

The one guy said I don't know simple math but I guess he doesn't either. On the HH I posted before there is $25 missing from that hand.

Poker Hand #HD666728307: Hold'em No Limit ($25/$50) - 2021/10/03 00:20:39
Table 'VH Deep1' 6-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: 37ad9a2d ($2,500 in chips)
Seat 3: d4a3a08 ($4,706.75 in chips)
Seat 4: 30c05e34 ($2,862.5 in chips)
Seat 5: 40aaaabb ($5,575 in chips)
Seat 6: Hero ($2,545 in chips)
Hero: posts small blind $25
37ad9a2d: posts big blind $50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to 37ad9a2d
Dealt to d4a3a08
Dealt to 30c05e34
Dealt to 40aaaabb
Dealt to Hero [7c Jc]
d4a3a08: folds
30c05e34: folds
40aaaabb: raises $100 to $150
Hero: raises $525 to $675
37ad9a2d: folds
40aaaabb: folds
Uncalled bet ($525) returned to Hero
d4a3a08: shows [2c]
*** SHOWDOWN ***
Hero collected $332.5 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $350 | Rake $17.5 | Jackpot $0 | Bingo $0
Seat 1: 37ad9a2d (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: d4a3a08 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: 30c05e34 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: 40aaaabb (button) folded before Flop
Seat 6: Hero (small blind) collected ($332.5)

So if you look at this hand and add up the amounts it is off by $25. If $525 was returned preflop that implies there was $150 * 2 plus $75 (blinds) on the table which is $375. But the HH says "Total pot $350" (and from which the rake was subtracted). So the "Total pot" minus rake matches the supposed winnings but the hand bets/blinds figures seem to be $25 short.

So I was wrong about the amount and how it was off but not wrong that there is money missing from pots that I am playing. So I went and checked a couple others and it didn't take long before I found another one.

Poker Hand #HD663139253: Hold'em No Limit ($25/$50) - 2021/09/28 08:34:52
Table 'VH Standard2' 6-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: edb2d6a3 ($5,000 in chips)
Seat 2: 4fd54069 ($4,875 in chips)
Seat 3: 9ab5e635 ($1,276.25 in chips)
Seat 4: f2a3ad77 ($4,875 in chips)
Seat 5: 5f96d4da ($6,707.4 in chips)
Seat 6: Hero ($4,122.4 in chips)
f2a3ad77: posts small blind $25
5f96d4da: posts big blind $50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to edb2d6a3
Dealt to 4fd54069
Dealt to 9ab5e635
Dealt to f2a3ad77
Dealt to 5f96d4da
Dealt to Hero [Js Kd]
Hero: raises $75 to $125
edb2d6a3: folds
4fd54069: folds
9ab5e635: folds
f2a3ad77: raises $426 to $551
5f96d4da: folds
Hero: folds
Uncalled bet ($426) returned to f2a3ad77
*** SHOWDOWN ***
f2a3ad77 collected $285 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $300 | Rake $15 | Jackpot $0 | Bingo $0
Seat 1: edb2d6a3 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: 4fd54069 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: 9ab5e635 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: f2a3ad77 (small blind) collected ($285)
Seat 5: 5f96d4da (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: Hero folded before Flop

This is the very next hand

Poker Hand #HD663139270: Hold'em No Limit ($25/$50) - 2021/09/28 08:35:12
Table 'VH Standard2' 6-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: edb2d6a3 ($5,000 in chips)
Seat 2: 4fd54069 ($4,875 in chips)
Seat 3: 9ab5e635 ($1,276.25 in chips)
Seat 4: f2a3ad77 ($5,035 in chips)
Seat 5: 5f96d4da ($6,657.4 in chips)
Seat 6: Hero ($3,997.4 in chips)

My stack is $3,997.40 and not $4122.40. So that seems like it would be $125 missing. These are just a couple of HH that I have reviewed and already finding money missing it appears like to me and verified with a third party. I don't consider myself delusional when I am right.

I believe that your $525 re-raise included your $25 small blind. In other words, your raise was $500 plus the $25 that you already posted as the small blind. I believe that would account for the "missing" $25.


On another point, my calling you "delusional" was because you accused PartyLove of "snooping around my computer."

Yeah I could be wrong about that but you are ignoring the rest. I don't know for sure who partylove is but I have my suspicions and if I'm wrong then I'll admit that I'm wrong. I don't have to be right and I'm not trying to win any argument but just looking for answers.

Pokertracker is looking into this and they sent the hand to their QA and will get back to me. I don't understand the HH that well so I don't know if you are right or not but since Pokertracker says something is probably off and I don't trust you because you ignore and dismiss everything and only point out something small that has nothing to do with the issue.

You must play online poker at least once in a while if you are here I would think and especially because how often you post and are always saying "riggies" are wrong. You wouldn't form such a strong opinion and not play online poker right? That would be silly to form an opinion of something that you aren't familar with. So this should be a concern to you and you are saying it isn't?

I don't think I figured out any great conspiracy btw but comparing me to Ted K is a little extreme wouldn't you say?

Also the evidence I have provided is not faulty, it's real you just choose to ignore it. Where do you play online poker at? Or where do you play poker live? As an online poker player this doesn't concern you?

I only looked carefully at your first example. My conclusion could be wrong.

I agree; you shouldn't trust me any more than I should trust you.

I don't believe that I have ever said that "riggies are wrong." What I have said is that riggies typically provide no evidence to support their views. It's all based on feelz. I appreciate that at least you are giving some real-life examples of possible malfeasance on the part of a poker site.

I have never said that I am unconcerned about possible shady behavior by online poker sites. There are lots of examples of shady online poker operators.

I am referring to the fact that I provide evidence and you ignore it.
If you are a real person and not a paid shill then why haven't you acknowledged this and only tried to mock and dismiss?

You only provided evidence that you do not understand simple math and that you get extremely paranoid about things that do not exist, like rando posters snooping on your computer (how would that work, and if it did, why would he take that opportunity to just snoop to see if you used Photoshop or something). Your posts show that you think everyone else is fake or has some agenda against you, when literally nobody cares what happens to you. Do not mistaken interaction in a riggie thread with hundreds of thousands of silly posts as an actual personal interaction. Nobody is watching you. Your "evidence" is literally nothing. Nobody wants to know any information about you. No poker sites are cheating you in a way that would be easy to prove if true, because others would have shown this proof by now.

Your instincts are based on paranoia and not reality nor common sense. That is something you may want to work on by finding professionals that will have a proper interaction with you on those problems of yours. You will not get that in an online poker riggie thread. That is the correct suggestion for you, but whether you take it or not is of no concern to me or anyone else here in the end. Do it and likely live a healthier life or create another paranoid world where my making this suggestion is somehow part of the master plan with the sites stealing money from you (when they are not) and that rando poster snooping on your computer. Your choice in the end to add as many fake people to your perceived world as you like.

All the best.

I carefully examined the first hand that you posted, and found the "missing" $25 that you thought the shady pokersite stole from you. How is that "ignoring" your evidence? (Of course, since nothing was amiss, it was not evidence of anything, other than that you made a math error. )

I actually gave you more attention than you deserve, since you earlier literally accused PartyLove of "snooping around my computer", which kinda shows you're probably a few fries short of a Happy Meal(TM).

I already said in an earlier post that I am not a real person. I am a paid shill. I get paid $24.99+S&H for every post in which I mock and dismiss riggies. It ain't a glamorous gig, but it keeps the lights on.

Have a nice day! (And please post again so I can earn another $24.99+S&H.)

So your short anwer is that "I'm a miserable **** who hates his life who only comments on other posts to mock and ridicule and due the sites bidding".

That's what I got from it because you are a smart ass for no reason. I will tell you the same thing I told adewd. You are either the dumbest person on the planet or a shill. You can't be a regular person and come to the conclusions that you make. I may be a few fries short of a happy meal but that just means that I use logic, evidence, and common sense. Those are 3 things that you have none of. You also have no integrity, no backbone, and no spine. As you take the money these crooked sites give you and sell out the community for your own selfish gain.

I just got done playing a session of "poker" on GG and it is the most ridiculous excuse for a poker site that I have ever seen. On top of them just stealing money from every pot (not a math error btw), the cards dealt out and the fact there a ton of super users is so insanely obvious. No wonder Daniel Negreanu has to take the back entrance into every casino when he is recording his vlogs. No wonder he wants lockdown because he knows he can't go anywhere pushing that rigged ass site and then safely go anywhere. It's not poker or even anything close to resembling poker. The site has to be a front for something else because they do not want poker players to play. That is very clear.

It's also not delusional to think that someone from the site was snooping around on my computer but absolute fact. All these sites have that ability when you install it. Phil Nagy even said it in an interview and that's why when you run these poker sites through an anti virus they almost always come back as a trojan.

But I am done wasting my time talking to a miserable **** who hates his life because he can't look himself in the mirror without feeling bad about the decisions he has made because he knows that he is a sellout and a coward and cheats people for a living. So have fun with that because you can't do what you do and cheat people and then expect to be a happy person. It's not possible.

So this is the last $24.99 you will get from me jackass but have fun scamming people and cheating more honest people out of their money and then being ashamed of it because deep down you know you are a coward and a sellout without enough balls to stand up for what is right and to not let bullies get away with cheating and scamming honest people.

fyp

There is a reason that I am a smart-aleck: It's fun!

I'm both.

I've already told you twice that I am NOT a real person. Please try to keep up.

Actually, being "a few fries short of a happy meal" means that you do not use logic, evidence, or common sense.

Agreed.

I'm kinda getting a vibe that maybe you don't think I'm a good person.

Excellent points. What kind of idiot would continue to play on such as site, anyway?

You accused a specific person in this thread of "snooping around my computer." Do you stand by that accusation?

Well, nobody's perfect, right?

You'd be amazed what's possible.

"plus S&H"!

Can I use you as a character reference for my next resume?

Have a nice day!

Glad that after all these years of debate, we can finally close this thread and conclude that online poker is in fact rigged thanks to this undeniable piece of evidence by the visionary "itsnotrandom".

I knew something weird was going on when I ran my two pair into a flush one time.