Just one among many moronic statements he has made.

I brought up some issues awhile back about pokerbros and was asked to record my findings and I've done just that. My videos are posted on YouTube. Videos of hands played and a video of live play. I'm wondering how many can still say after watching my videos, that it's pokerbros is random. Look up Sam Jones Pokerbros on YouTube.

Wow, almost an hour of cherry-picked hands - finally someone has cracked the case!

I just watched about 5 minutes of one of the videos, and I'm thinking maybe poker isn't for you if these are the kind of hands you decided to pick out. KQs is close to a coin flip against an Ace, but it's "ridiculous" to you that you could lose. Limp in with J7s, big raise, and of course you call. Yes, yes, I know...the way they play out just couldn't be random. LOL.

Stop. Delete that post. Randoms hands across several variants. Play is poor, except for folds. I'm not sure what you think that was supposed to prove but it kind of makes you out to be a full fledged riggie without actually understanding of the game. The first hand with a random 7 off suit thrown in for PLO 6 card and limp city.

Your hand isnt good enough to raise preflop but good enough to call a family pot raise??

Aside from showing nothing, your commentary and action pretty much means you'll be bum hunted if it exists at those stacks. Take down the video or at least change your player name. Your videos will cost you money.

I don't think this word "random" means what you think it means.

Thanks for all your replies. I do know that KQ is a coin flip against an Ace. 53 to 48% , but as you see, the Ace wasn't a factor, when the Op flopped and turned trips 7s for a full house. J7 suited is actually an open, according to preflop ranges, plus the fact that this player had been raising profusely when everyone just called and I was right when they turned over 39. I figured you guys reply would be something like this, even though that player flopped trip 3 and was drawing on the turn and hit 9's both runs on the river for a fullhouse. Also, the most ridiculous one of all, is when the player which has been raising profusely, turned and rivered a straight flush against my made flush. The only 2 cards that I could lose against came/come runner runner, with the app pausing before dealing them out. As in the AQ vs JJ hand for a 4 card flush after I hit my Ace and hit my Q on the river. Like I put in my live video, I won 12 or 13 hands straight that I folded pre, it's as though the app baits you with a better hand then kills you... Once again I want to thank you for your replies and for taking the time out to look at my videos.

don't know the hand you're talking about, but i hope you're not replying to my 8 minute video, none of those hands were played other than the way the they should be. I was ahead on every single hand, actually wayyyyyy ahead, and I doubt that you would play them any differently, especially the way the others were literally jamming any hand with an Ace. Maybe you should go back and watch it and explain what you're saying. I'll wait

I watched about 3 minutes. You were sitting with 14 BBs at a table where a couple people were tossing it in in just about every hand. When you had to reload your balance was about 25 bucks. The other players at the table would not have even noticed if they won a pot with you with your short stack. It was as if you were not even there.

Looks like a good game if you actually had the money to be bankrolled, had some level of skill to know how to play in games like that and had the patience to accept the variance of wild games like that. For now you have 0 of those 3 qualities, so probably best that you quit poker or convince yourself that the world is rigged against you to get your 30 buck bankroll. No difference to me.

If nothing else, perhaps making those videos made you feel better and that process certainly was a better hourly rate ($0) for you than playing, so consider doing more in the future.

All the best.

I didn't watch the video and this is as far as I had to read in your reply to know that nobody will take this guy seriously. I don't even look in the direction of short stacks at a table.

I mean the verbal reasoning. J high flush I'll see a flop, and it was 5 handed. You're only getting called at showdown by a better hand. I guess 8/9/10 c could have happened but super low odds. J/7c is really not a hand you're looking to go 5 ways with. So it ends up spewing chips.

The games/MTTs on pokerbros are very good overall because of a lot of play like that. I play 200 PLO a couple hours a day and often run into preflop action like that hand, limp/c/c/pot and everyone calls, then limp/c/c/pot and everyone folds.

That is the kind of action you like to see and you want people entering pots with J7 type hands. No snark intended, but you're spewing chips very much unnecessarily and then you end up with 5 or 6 bigs, GII preflop with AQ and have 3 callers losing to 7/8off.

Your comments are crass. Of course if you lose a bunch of hands to bs, your stack gets cut. Not one statement was made to answer my question. You take one look and try to find something to say other something that's relevant to the questions at hand. It's easy to see in the video, that neither play er had any chance at winning on the flop, even if you look at those flush hands. I understand that here, even if pokerbros themselves come on here to 2+2 and say they set the hands up, you guys would still deny them and say the same thing you're saying to me. This is the main reason why we have online poker games playing like this... It's ridiculous. Now I don't have a club, but I guess you guys do and are making a killing... If you're not going to watch the videos and comment with relevance and class, then why comment at all.?

Sounds good. Keep playing or do not. Keep posting videos that get a dozen views (only because you mentioned it here) or do not. The only one that has you as a character that matters in the poker world is you. Literally nobody else cares. Crass? Maybe. Accurate? Definitely. What you choose to do about it, if anything, is up to you, and nobody else will remember to ask what you did in the future. Still, better luck with that $30 bankroll as you do min buyins/short stacking in the future. WIld guess, if you ever double up early you likely insta leave the table to buy back in short... Anyway, at least you will not lose as much as that dude who was rando betting on horses that went silent about how that was going (gee, I wonder why).

By the way, I did chuckle in your one video where you made it clear that "watch, if I dont run it twice he will definitely get a king or queen on the river." Then you went Boom - ans a 5 of clubs came. You stayed on message by saying "see, that's been happening to me all day, kind or queen on the river" as if the 5 river did not just happen. There you go - some specific feedback, reminds me of the dude many years ago who used to say "D" in chat when he had a premium hand to prove he would always lose with them, and he posted examples. At the time PTR tracked hands so he stopped posting once I posted his top 10 winning hands (all of which he had said "D" in. Guess he was a mentor to you!

By the way, this guy did what you are trying to do, only he did it over 15 years ago. He was way ahead of his time, and should be in the poker Hall of Fame in my opinion.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uszcu3WsPvk

All the best.

Monteroy, here's a quick question for you. Do you play on pokerbros? If you do, can you pm me the club id?

I would never want a riggie like you in an affiliate/club/agency of mine. The handful of bucks you would make me a month is never worth the annoyance and constant whining. I have had a few people over the years de-tagged just for that purpose, and never regretted that choice.

Enjoy the Tuff Fish videos. He never monetized them (way before his time), but they were very entertaining for the time they existed. Your videos (watching about 4-5 minutes) are not actually the worst ones I have seen from the riggie crowd lately - your commentary, while hardly innovative, is not deeply awkward like the others. Still, your videos do not really tell a proper message or a story - they are just more like hearing a rando ramble on, and to be blunt - that aint gonna ever sell.

There was a different guy who also did videos whining about rigging about 10 years ago that a lot of riggies liked. He did get some minimal traction, and I found his work to be a bit too laden with random swearing and whining to ever go anywhere. He did the videos mainly for show as he was an okish reg in the games he played, so he was pretty much pretending to be a riggie. Riggies did not care as they were being told what they wanted, so consider that if you plan to do more videos. His voice was whiny, but it kind of fit his character. He also tried to add other unrelated video clips (movie scenes etc.) to his stories. They were not great, but showed a bit of effort for his minimal production value.

http://www.youtube.com/user/magic612/videos?view=0

There you go - constructive feedback and a supply of resources for you. More than you would have expected!

All the best.

A more important question for you: if you think pokerbros is rigged, why keep playing there? Or why have this back and forth discussion? Move on to a new site. If you're American, I recommend ACR.

On the contrary, still sat here printing the money. The last couple of weeks weren't quite as good as July was - I've only made around $11,000 this month, in comparison to $25,000 in July, but that's variance for you.

Will be upping the stakes soon to make even more, while the stable you leech from gradually have to reduce stakes in this dead industry, as higher limit games run less and less, and the skill level gets ever higher with each passing year. Your income is contracting with each week, while mine has fantastic current and future prospects.

Just a tip, you probably don't want to speak to your future collegues in McDonalds like you do here, delusions of self-importance while you're flipping the burgers won't go down well.

Welcome back! Congrats on your undocumented pretend earnings, and continued fake success in your future. You should post your results in the Sports Betting forum here - they really respect people with no actual proof of success.

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/40/sports-betting/

They even have a horse racing specific thread, so you can show those wannabes what real success is with your claims.

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/4...thread-447098/

I offer you these links knowing there is 0% chance you will post in them, because you would then have to show some specific results or expertise. We both know that will never happen.

All the best.

I've already explained this, donk, but you will never get it. No one when making a bet 'knows' that a horse will win, not even the trainers and yard owners can know this. You can only know that the odds offered are not representative of a given horses chance of success, and so represent 'good value'. I do not win on every single horse I back, and a donk like you will claim that's some sort of failure, when in reality it's no different to getting your chips in as a slight favourite in poker and then losing the runout. Whether bets are good or bad depends on the odds taken, and just because I posted here that I backed horse X doesn't mean that's a good bet for everyone reading that post since the bookmaker has likely already cut the price on the horse by the time you see the post.

Horse racing is not like sitting here and analysing a poker hand, where hours after the hand the discussion is still valid. A 'good decision' or a 'bad decision' in horse races can literally be the difference between 'I put the bet on 1 minute earlier than you and got 14/1 odds, while you got 12/1 odds'.

I am very familiar with sharps and what they do and how they expand their business when they run into heat. You clearly had no idea there was even a topic on this forum about what you claim to do, you should at least check it out once!

We both know you are simply a lone rando, nothing more. If you want to pretend claim to make a fortune betting in a riggie thread after your failure in other gambling ventures (of which you take no blame) - then go for it, but if you had the ability you would step back and think - how believable is a rando who has always failed at nano stakes gambling that suddenly talks about long term success without any verification or clear knowledge. Hint, it aint that believable, but it is clear that it is your latest form of venting, one we have seen many times in this thread before. Tons of fake riggie millionaires, with zero evidence to back their claims, have come before you, and likely more will follow you. I always wish them well on their pretend success whenever they show up.

Good luck with your pretend successes in the future.

All the best.

You're not familiar with anything, otherwise you'd know how stupid asking for a list of horses backed that day/week/month actually is. It's very similar to starting from the end result of a poker hand, and declaring because that hand won/lost it was a good/bad decision. The EV depends on the odds taken , and it's very common for horses that ultimately win to shorten in odds significantly by the race start time compared to the point I backed them: that doesn't mean they were a good pick at race start, the only thing I can guarantee is that they were a good pick AT THE PRECISE SECOND I CLICKED THE 'BET' BUTTON.

I am very familiar with how it works, and I know the type of analysis that actual sharps do to find odds that are off. I also know how the books work when they post odds they consider wrong after the fact, and the effectiveness of the tools they use to detect actual sharps. I know how much actual work it takes to succeed long term in what you are now doing, and you have shown nothing to indicate you are anything but a rando who bets his gut.

Anyway, as I said - you are just the latest pretend riggie success story. At least some of the people who stumbled into crypto years ago (due to their political beliefs) posted about their investments beforehand, so they could show they succeeded, even if it was out of mainly luck. You can't even do that. You are just a degen gambler, one who did not even have the actual skills to beat the nano and micro stakes at poker. Long term it is not hard to predict how it ends for you, regardless of how much empty boasting you do that fools nobody.

Good luck with your pretend successes in the future. Keep us posted (I say this to all people like you, but most vanish not long in the future, usually after a couple fake updates).

All the best.

'Analysis'? What a joke, utter waste of time. Just LOL if you think it's about sitting there watching bloody racing interviews and studying horse form.

All you need to do is compare the odds on the bookmaker, with the odds on betfair. A donk like you probably doesn't even know what that is - google it. If the bookmaker odds are higher than that on betfair, put the bet on at the bookmaker, long term you'll make profit, I guarantee it. Of course you will do none of this, preferring to grind out an ever diminishing pool of shekels in a dying industry.

I backed a sports betting arbitrage group long ago, and it was genuinely crazy to see the setup they had and what they had to do in terms of wagering and moving money around. I also knew first hand the bankroll needed to do it properly. Hint, it was not the same as the 10NL games you failed at.

The method you use is literally called the newbie method. Lots did exactly what you are doing (they used Pinnacle as their odds base for sports betting), and some had some minor success when paired with bonuses (though online sports books were notorious for banning people fast). I figured it would not be hard to get you to explain your strategy, and I also knew it would be about the level you presented. Hey, at least you are not doing martingaling, so there is that. Congrats on uncovering an online strategy used by casuals for over 15 years!

Good luck with your pretend successes in the future.

All the best.

I never claimed it was a highly complex strategy. I actually said earlier in this thread that the edge with horse betting was massive, and it was much easier than poker. Quite frankly, I care nothing for whether something is complex or not, so long as it works. Yes, it's much harder to beat 10nl than it is to win on horses, but given I'm the one raking in the money while the 10nl guy is sitting there with his solvers and his coaching group just to make the equivilant wage of a McDonalds worker in East Europe, I'll take my 'simple' approach any day of the week.

Now why don't you have a google for 'betfair' and also while you're at it, look up 'efficient market hypothesis'. Betfair closing prices are very accurate - within 1% of the true odds of an event happening over a large sample, so if you're consistently beating betfair prices, you will win in the end.

Now compare that simple strategy than anyone can learn to print money in about an hour, with the level of work it'd take to make decent money at poker. It's not remotely comparable, it's clear horse racing is by far the winner in, and my future is pretty bright, while yours involves the dole queue.

I had a Betfair account long, long before you discovered it. Sadly they removed Canada from who could wager there a while ago. I am also familiar with pretty much all the other betting sites, many of which you likely have never heard of.

The older forums (over 10 years ago) had a sub forum that discussed this and lots did basically what you are doing now, though they incorporated bonuses in the mix. If you want to bother to research it then you can see how long the approach you are using typically lasts before it runs into issues, and that was at a time when one could get away with a lot more than these days in terms of gnoming and moving money around. Or don't so any research and assume it will work without any issues forever!

Good luck with your pretend successes in the future.

All the best.