I know all this, I just wanted to see how far TJ would move the goalposts once he got a specific answer to his quest. Exactly what I expected to happen, happened.

Well that counts for nothing, much like the rest of your posts. Thanks for wasting everyone's time. I mean, literally wasting everyone's time.

He gave you what you asked for, but I agree that was a waste of time, because your needs are completely irrelevant and as you would say - are literally meaningless.

If you doubt this then feel free to post your concerns about a proven fair site with whatever your changing conditions are in a new thread here or if you think 2+2 does not treat you literally fairly - then literally post it literally on any website and see what kind of discussion it literally generates.

The market literally does not care about your personalized concerns. If you cannot beat the freerolls or 2NL games you play then quit playing. You will literally never find a site that you believe is fair, and you will change your requirements if anyone offers you one that meets a prior question. Thus, you asking is literally a waste of everyone's time. Your time is literally valueless, so wasting your own time is literally meaningless to you, hence why you will do this literally nothingburger quest of yours for years. However, try to see how much traction your concerns get anywhere on the internet then report back to us with your success. The odds of you doing this are of course literally zero, because people like you literally do zero work to back your concerns - you always ask it of others. Quit poker and stop being so literally lazy.

All the best (not literally).

For the site? No, I generally avoid derailing threads with that silliness, but it was fun this time. There's really no way to derail your discussions, since it's just repetitive nonsense, so I thought I'd have a little fun. Maybe a person or two appreciated it, possibly not.

Yea, the poker sites were worried that you were getting too close to the truth, so they asked me to step in.

I literally appreciated your effort. Been pretty dull in this thread with no interesting new riggies, so you gotta do what you can with the beyond dull retreads. Not an easy job, but that is why you get paid the big shill bucks!

Well if you're correct, TheoryJuice, you should stop posting here so they won't get paid.

I have told them that many times in the past when they say I get paid to reply to them, but riggies tend to make choices that are essentially opposite to common sense, so odds are he will continue to post and will also continue to play on rooms he believes are unfair, all the while making literally nothing from this industry. Just part of the riggie inferior lifestyle. This is why riggies need to be entertaining, as they do not serve any other purpose.

It is literally (sorry) impossible to prove that a poker site is on the up-and-up.

But, as has been pointed out a gazillion times in this thread, there are dozens of better ways for a shady site to fleece the flock than messing with the RNG. Ever heard of Lock Poker?

My recommendation: Never invest more money on any poker site that would cause any significant financial or emotional hardship if all your money on the site disappeared tomorrow.

edit: I have $16 on Global. My nickname isn't "Big Stack Chucky" for nothing (my handle on global is chuckychess)!

Can I have a donut?
Sure dude, here's a donut.
I don't want that donut, the hole is the wrong shape. Give me a better donut. One that I want.
I'm not giving you another donut. If you want a better donut, get it yourself.
Look, me not having the donut I want is YOUR problem - get me the one I want!
No.
Well, you're just useless, thanks for wasting my time.

I apologize if you have already answered this question, but here goes:

Why are others supposed to do your homework for you?

Ban for circumventing new filter.

What is going at BOL? There's no way boost is legit, right? I don't know if it's collusion or what. But I have many hands that are absolutely ridiculous. Villain always gets there, making large insane bets when I have them dead to rights, then magically they hit.

If not that, then boards consistently are the opposite of my holdings. I mean, when I open, I can call the board as I know it will be opposite of what I need. And bluffing? Forget it. Bluffing that pool is suicide.

Say I open AK, KT, JQ, etc. Guaranteed the board will be 7 high or lower.
Open 56s, the board will CONSISTENTLY be broadway.

Open 99, get 3bet, Flop is 678r. Villain pots it.
Turn: 2x Villain pots it again
River: 4x Villain pots it again and show 56.

This has gone on for two weeks. Is this normal or is something going on? I was up 6 BI. Now I'd say I'm down about 12 BI.

I'm sure a portion of that can be attributed to tilt.

Let me know what you think. I'm sure I'll get ripped apart and fine with it. Maybe I need it.

Definitely not normal to run bad for 2 whole weeks. More than likely you have a rigged account. BOL is notorious for doing this to people randomly.

Yeah I guess it's best to never question anything and just blindly assume that every business--especially poker sites--are above suspicion. So much so that to even question this is considered conspiracy theory for riggies. As we all know poker sites--EVERY ONE OF THEM-- is infallible.

I don't know if the BOL boost can be beat. The game is extremely tight and jackpot rake is too high.

Amazingly, there's room between "There's no way boost is legit, right?" and what you've posted above. Plenty of room, for a whole range of opinions. So when you start a thread after two weeks taking one of those extremes and questioning a site's legitimacy, sometimes you'll get what you expect:

Doesn't sound like you are.

Yeah, pretty much everything rigged, no doubt about it. The amazing beats, fill ups etc, for our boys, the reload button for you, the usual stuff.

But there is a site which is not rigged (yet?) IMO, RunItOnce poker; I played some time ago, what a fresh breath of air it was, after the kings of rigged such as PP, PS, FT, GG, 888, etc, sorry if I missed any from my long term experience. I was in awe when the boards started running: You see random flops, flops that do not connect much with either player, your set can actually win without someone filling their flush draw against you, or pulling a bigger set. For god sake, even your aces sometimes hold! I almost cried I even had a winning session a week after a fresh deposit! Unheard of! Unbelievable!

Now, they do not advertise non-rigged game (who would...) or talk about fairness. No, the site is pretty basic, not much info. They do not say anything about their RNG, or software (not that I care about RNG), still it seems non-rigged to me! You see normal card distribution over the board, something you might have forgotten how it looks if you played elsewhere. Of course, there is the problem that there are not many players there, something mentioned already about a potential non-rigged site. Oh well, if it is not rigged, and if there is no site players either, who is going to populate the tables? Random players go there on occasion it seems, good enough for me. You actually open the site and see all tables empty. To me that is a good sign there are no site players, so there is no rig that feeds the site players either! Enjoy!

Anyway, the humanity is not totally lost, not yet at least.

Hard to know what to set the over/under at for how long it will take dacy to come back and declare RIO to be rigged, as it's really dependent on how much he plays. Seems like a given, though, that at some point he will decide it is rigged as well. Hopefully he enjoys it until then.

He said he played it a while ago, so that suggests he only briefly played on the one site he currently considers fair and then went back to the ones who have whole departments to create rigs against him. Other riggies have of course declared that site rigged, but at least now that whiny "do everything for me" riggie has two sites told to him that are "fair" - including one from a player that has lost and complained about rigs for 15 years, so the "show me a fair site" riggie should be good to go for his 2NL games. That is until he changes his goal posts again, because in the end riggies gonna riggie.

He did say 'not rigged yet'.

So two weeks is normal, I take it. Especially considering that the amount of volume I put in is probably lower than someone who actually knows what they're doing. I'm at probably 2-3 hours a night every night. Single table. So probably kinda low compared to most.

I guess when you add in the rake and my tilt, it makes sense. I think when it comes to variance newbies and newish people like me don't really know what to expect.

I definitely don't think anything is rigged for or against me. But I do think it's naïve not to question things. Doesn't have to be the site itself causing the issue. We've seen things in the past where the site had nothing to do with it, but the game was certainly unfair.

I probably should've changed some of the wording in my post. Maybe it would not have got moved to the rigged section. But that's what I get. I am now one of those people who a post in the rigged thred of 2p2

Galfond is tweaking the algorithms as we speak!

Well, it's really about your sample size more so than whether you've played a lot more or less than other people, although more inexperienced players are indeed going to be more susceptible to results-oriented thinking, and getting upset about losing streaks that experienced players would hardly even notice. And what kind of sample size is needed really depends on what you think you're seeing. To take a simple example, if you were flipping a coin and came up with 40 heads in a row, you don't need any more flips to determine something is up. Poker is far more complex, and also is a game of incomplete information (you don't know about all the times your opponents tried to draw out on you and didn't make it, times you would've lost had they not folded early, etc.), so you will often need a fairly significant sample size to know something is wrong. Same goes for your winrate - hard to gauge your overall results versus what they "should be" when you don't yet know what the latter level is.

I'd suggest concentrating on improving your own game and plugging any leaks. That can only benefit you, whether it's rigged or not. If you truly think things are rigged, you need to actually analyze your entire database at a given site; a whole bunch of individual events really don't tell anything. We remember what we think is the exceptional, and quickly disregard the mundane, like all the times our hands did hold up.

Villian "gets there" 100% of the time? Pretty stupid rig on the part of BOL.

BOL hates you! Get away from there as fast as you can!!!

The board is 7-high or lower 100% of the time when you hold broadways? Pretty stupid rig on the part of BOL.


Even professionals have 40+ BI downswings.