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Old 10-08-2009, 05:15 PM   #9026
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Proof?
How about you provide proof that every single hand you see is either a straight or a flush?

Also, what was the bad beat/cooler you suffered today that set you off?
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Old 10-08-2009, 05:28 PM   #9027
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Old 10-08-2009, 05:32 PM   #9028
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How about you provide proof that every single hand you see is either a straight or a flush?

Also, what was the bad beat/cooler you suffered today that set you off?
Just the usual 1000+ bad beats per day, nothing out of the ordinary.

Wherever you ask for proof, my end or their's, it's simple fact you don't see the ridiciness in boards live as you do on line. You will do once every blue moon of course, one home game/organised event is gonna have bizarre happenings, but nothing like the to the frequency that happens on line. And forget the "but you play 1000x as many hands on line" crap, it doesn't wash. I also find it funny, how everyone who is against the idea of rng's randomise things way too extremely from one end of the scale to the other, are those who run like god, and obv those who think there's something in it...run like shyt.
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Old 10-08-2009, 05:37 PM   #9029
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Just the usual 1000+ bad beats per day, nothing out of the ordinary.

Wherever you ask for proof, my end or their's, it's simple fact you don't see the ridiciness in boards live as you do on line. You will do once every blue moon of course, one home game/organised event is gonna have bizarre happenings, but nothing like the to the frequency that happens on line. And forget the "but you play 1000x as many hands on line" crap, it doesn't wash. I also find it funny, how everyone who is against the idea of rng's randomise things way too extremely from one end of the scale to the other, are those who run like god, and obv those who think there's something in it...run like shyt.
So you're sticking with the "my mind sees patterns" analysis? Good luck with that. At this point it isn't worth the effort to go over why you are wrong. Just read the thread.
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Old 10-08-2009, 05:39 PM   #9030
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How much do stars pay you? Or does the government just let you keep your life? lmao
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How much do stars pay you? Or does the government just let you keep your life? lmao
You've progressed quite fast to the "you're a shill!" stage of rigtardedness. Congrats, you're ahead of schedule.
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You've progressed quite fast to the "you're a shill!" stage of rigtardedness. Congrats, you're ahead of schedule.
I just find it weird how tv, who like to show only the most exciting hands in poker, never come within 50 light years of having hands as unbelievably crazy as on line sites do. Why is that?
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I just find it weird how tv, who like to show only the most exciting hands in poker, never come within 50 light years of having hands as unbelievably crazy as on line sites do. Why is that?
I'm not sure what you are talking about. I've seen some pretty crazy hands on TV. Can you give an example of a hand that you saw online that is crazier than any hand that has ever been on television?
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Old 10-08-2009, 05:51 PM   #9034
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Why is it that riggedologists are never good at spelling and grammar? Is it just that they are so excited they type faster than they can think? I'm picturing spittle spray on the screen, loud banging on the keys, yelling while posting..... must be a good gif for this somewhere.
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Old 10-08-2009, 05:53 PM   #9035
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Just the usual 1000+ bad beats per day, nothing out of the ordinary.

Wherever you ask for proof, my end or their's, it's simple fact you don't see the ridiciness in boards live as you do on line. You will do once every blue moon of course, one home game/organised event is gonna have bizarre happenings, but nothing like the to the frequency that happens on line. And forget the "but you play 1000x as many hands on line" crap, it doesn't wash. I also find it funny, how everyone who is against the idea of rng's randomise things way too extremely from one end of the scale to the other, are those who run like god, and obv those who think there's something in it...run like shyt.
Probably a gimmick troll, but if not, send Donko a PM, he roots for underdogs like yourself...
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Old 10-08-2009, 05:56 PM   #9036
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I'm not sure what you are talking about. I've seen some pretty crazy hands on TV. Can you give an example of a hand that you saw online that is crazier than any hand that has ever been on television?
Lol I'm talking quantity not quality. I don't care if a board shows up AAAAAK, I'm talking the AMOUNT in which it happens. In my experience on line, the board will run out with exactly the cards the 2 guys all in are holding...granted this happens live....but WAY TOO OFTEN..which doesn't happen live. Hand after hand, like 35 times in a row. I posted somewhere on this forum recently in one day out I think it was 114 sb shoves I was called 85 times by a monster. Ok no proof blah blah, would take me ages to get all hands together. You want proof. Ok are you willing to sit through 500 hours of video which I'll gladly record? And then provide proof that in as many hands I play and get raped in, it also happens live? I'll provide the on line proof, you provide the live, deal?
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Could be a nice prop bet brewing here.

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Why is it that riggedologists are never good at spelling and grammar? Is it just that they are so excited they type faster than they can think? I'm picturing spittle spray on the screen, loud banging on the keys, yelling while posting..... must be a good gif for this somewhere.
Do point out the mistakes, oh ye of highly ranked pedanticness (a trait I duly admire). If it's slang you're talking about...fail.
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Could be a nice prop bet brewing here.

Ye hopefully they'll crap emselves switch on my doomswtich and I'll make even better money for a change
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Old 10-08-2009, 06:01 PM   #9040
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Just the usual 1000+ bad beats per day, nothing out of the ordinary.
Wow! How many hands do you play a day? If you only play 1500 hands, and 1000 are bad beats, I'd say that's pretty damning! Especially if it happens day after day! Can you post your handhistories for, say a week, so we can see the carnage?
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Lol I'm talking quantity not quality. I don't care if a board shows up AAAAAK, I'm talking the AMOUNT in which it happens. In my experience on line, the board will run out with exactly the cards the 2 guys all in are holding...granted this happens live....but WAY TOO OFTEN..which doesn't happen live. Hand after hand, like 35 times in a row. I posted somewhere on this forum recently in one day out I think it was 114 sb shoves I was called 85 times by a monster. Ok no proof blah blah, would take me ages to get all hands together. You want proof. Ok are you willing to sit through 500 hours of video which I'll gladly record? And then provide proof that in as many hands I play and get raped in, it also happens live? I'll provide the on line proof, you provide the live, deal?
Why would you record the video instead of just using the hand histories? This just shows you don't even know where to begin to look in regards to showing a deal is random.

Also, how many hands do you think you see on TV in a whole episode? Maybe like 30 an episode? (At most) You can see that many in mere minutes online.
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Why would you record the video instead of just using the hand histories? This just shows you don't even know where to begin to look in regards to showing a deal is random.

Also, how many hands do you think you see on TV in a whole episode? Maybe like 30 an episode? (At most) You can see that many in mere minutes online.
Cos video would require 10000% less work. And would take you longer to read than watching it happen before your eyes.
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Cos video would require 10000% less work. And would take you longer to read than watching it happen before your eyes.
LOL. Thanks for the laugh.

You should look into:

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Every single *** hand I see at the tables is a straight or flush. Guaranteed no questions asked, just pure fact!!
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Just the usual 1000+ bad beats per day, nothing out of the ordinary.
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I just find it weird how tv, who like to show only the most exciting hands in poker, never come within 50 light years of having hands as unbelievably crazy as on line sites do. Why is that?
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Cos video would require 10000% less work. And would take you longer to read than watching it happen before your eyes.
Not that this guy exaggerates at all.
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There is more than one of them but they are all good. He has a few on tournaments as well as a couple on cash games. Everyone I talk to about them agrees they are solid books. I believe they are published by 2+2! So you can get them here: http://www.twoplustwostore.com/twopl...Category&ID=11
I will get them from 2+2 then. I cant imagine that I can go wrong on these with so many people raving...
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I have hem. There's no point me sending just bad beats, wot proof is that? They could all be a mile apart. You wanna read through boring hands where I fold rather than just see the fold in a flash?
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I have hem. There's no point me sending just bad beats, wot proof is that? They could all be a mile apart. You wanna read through boring hands where I fold rather than just see the fold in a flash?
LOL, nevermind.
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I offered you declined. There's my proof. Hope they pay you well. Goodnight
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I have hem. There's no point me sending just bad beats, wot proof is that? They could all be a mile apart. You wanna read through boring hands where I fold rather than just see the fold in a flash?
As I said above, why don't you post a week's worth of hands. You don't have to put them on 2+2: upload them to a file sharing site and post the links.

I can't imagine they'd be boring given how many bad beats and action hands they will show. Why not be the first to make claims like yours and actually back them up!
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Do point out the mistakes, oh ye of highly ranked pedanticness (a trait I duly admire). If it's slang you're talking about...fail.
Actually, I don't think you're that bad, and I don't usually bother with this, but you asked.

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How do pokerstars account for the ridiculoulsy unrealistically high amount of action hands. Every single fkn hand I see at the tables is a straight or flush. Guaranteed no questions asked, just pure fact!! In real life, games can go hours without a single top fkn pair never mind a flush! And then they say their system is checked regularly by which ever organisation they have also in the conspiracy, on a site that we can go check out the analysis's etc I mean what effing proof is that????
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Just the usual 1000+ bad beats per day, nothing out of the ordinary.

Wherever you ask for proof, my end or their's, it's simple fact you don't see the ridiciness in boards live as you do on line. You will do once every blue moon of course, one home game/organised event is gonna have bizarre happenings, but nothing like the to the frequency that happens on line. And forget the "but you play 1000x as many hands on line" crap, it doesn't wash. I also find it funny, how everyone who is against the idea of rng's randomise things way too extremely from one end of the scale to the other, are those who run like god, and obv those who think there's something in it...run like shyt.
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Lol I'm talking quantity not quality. I don't care if a board shows up AAAAAK, I'm talking the AMOUNT in which it happens. In my experience on line, the board will run out with exactly the cards the 2 guys all in are holding...granted this happens live....but WAY TOO OFTEN..which doesn't happen live. Hand after hand, like 35 times in a row. I posted somewhere on this forum recently in one day out I think it was 114 sb shoves I was called 85 times by a monster. Ok no proof blah blah, would take me ages to get all hands together. You want proof. Ok are you willing to sit through 500 hours of video which I'll gladly record? And then provide proof that in as many hands I play and get raped in, it also happens live? I'll provide the on line proof, you provide the live, deal?
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Ye hopefully they'll crap emselves switch on my doomswtich and I'll make even better money for a change
Oh, and should I take your lack of response to mean you are retracting your lie that every single hand at Poker Stars results in a straight or flush?
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