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06-21-2020 , 11:29 AM
Jesus, juicebox, you really are the most boring person in the world. I would rather hack my balls off with a dull knife than read another one of your whiny posts.

Thread definitely needs more poetry to bring it out of the doldrums.
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06-21-2020 , 11:37 AM
A haiku:

Juice with decibles
cuts both d2 testicles
Riggie Chronicles
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06-21-2020 , 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Monteroy
A haiku:

Juice with decibles
cuts both d2 testicles
Riggie Chronicles
Haha. Well it's not "Charge of the light brigade", or even "Humpty Dumpty", but it'll tide us over for now.
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06-21-2020 , 11:40 AM
Have to work with the material given, so a boredom riggie and genitals will limit in the quality of output within 30 seconds I dedicate for it.
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06-21-2020 , 11:59 AM
TrollJuice

Please start an AMA thread.

Judging by your interesting, informative and carefully constructed posts in here, together with your original repartee, I am sure that questioning minds from a wider audience would enjoy it and finding out more about you and your thoughts, history, and aspirations. (Of course, it is accepted universally that you would not have to answer any questions you feel are too personal or difficult or delving, so you need not fear one, as with your opening, say, of a general Probability thread.)

The topic of such a thread would be you, and therefore you would not be restricted by having to discuss rigged RNGs and the like, as in this thread. A free reign for you, (if you'll forgive the pun, apt though it may be).
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06-21-2020 , 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Monteroy
Now I answered your question
Well you haven't actually. Here it is again, if you want another try.

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Originally Posted by TheoryJuicer
You have stated that HHs are the solution to proving the fairness of online poker. I'll ask you again, in the absence of HHs how would you prove the fairness of a site?
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Originally Posted by TheoryJuicer
Yes or no - are your RnG "concerns" only on rooms with no downloadable hand histories? Yes or no? If no, then why have you not used hand histories on those other rooms to prove something. Remember, you were the one that claimed to have 350,000 hands on an opponent who won at 5BB/100 when you were doing that superuser whatever that you dropped. Whatever happened to those screenshots you promised - as obviously that was on a room with downloadable HHs. Feel free to ignore this in your next post .
I have the screenshot. It's 340K hands (what's 10K hands between friends?) at >5BB/100. Once the proof I've requested from everyone else is presented, I'll post mine.

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Originally Posted by d2_e4
Jesus, juicebox, you really are the most boring person in the world. I would rather hack my balls off with a dull knife than read another one of your whiny posts.

Thread definitely needs more poetry to bring it out of the doldrums.
I can assure you the feeling is mutual. Which is why I ignore 99% of your posts in case you hadn't noticed.

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Originally Posted by Mike Haven
TrollJuice

Please start an AMA thread.

Judging by your interesting, informative and carefully constructed posts in here, together with your original repartee, I am sure that questioning minds from a wider audience would enjoy it and finding out more about you and your thoughts, history, and aspirations. (Of course, it is accepted universally that you would not have to answer any questions you feel are too personal or difficult or delving, so you need not fear one, as with your opening, say, of a general Probability thread.)

The topic of such a thread would be you, and therefore you would not be restricted by having to discuss rigged RNGs and the like, as in this thread. A free reign for you, (if you'll forgive the pun, apt though it may be).
Thanks for the offer Mike but I have a feeling you're not being genuine It did give me a good laugh though
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06-21-2020 , 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by TheoryJuicer
Well you haven't actually. Here it is again, if you want another try.





I have the screenshot. It's 340K hands (what's 10K hands between friends?) at >5BB/100. Once the proof I've requested from everyone else is presented, I'll post mine.



I can assure you the feeling is mutual. Which is why I ignore 99% of your posts in case you hadn't noticed.



Thanks for the offer Mike but I have a feeling you're not being genuine It did give me a good laugh though
You entered the thread with goofy claims of a simple tweak to software and have not posted that...or anything. You do make demands, which no one should really acknowledge with much of anything but giggles until you post anything you claim.

You won't, so we get to giggle at your requests...along with your lack of comprehension.

Have you considered

https://www.hookedonphonics.com/

It has shown to really advance reading ability.
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06-21-2020 , 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by TheoryJuicer
Well you haven't actually. Here it is again, if you want another try.
Sure, I will play along with the trade of answering each others questions, knowing it will be useless (since you will not answer mine), as it amuses me to expose your kind in that way.

Sites with no downloadable HHs - good lord, nothing can ever be caught ever, ever, ever. Never play there ever, ever, ever. So bad, everything bad! Now of course, people have developed hand scrapers and some silly riggie beliefs could be proven with some simple streaming stuff and more, but let us put that all aside and in your narrow area say that any room with no HHs downloadable means literally nothing is possible to track ever, ever, ever. There you go, and that covers maybe 5% of the hands being dealt in the industry (if that) currently.

Now, how about the other 95%+ of hands being dealt that can be downloaded and studied. How about we focus some time on them, since nearly all riggie theories involve those rooms anyways .

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Originally Posted by TheoryJuicer
I have the screenshot. It's 340K hands (what's 10K hands between friends?) at >5BB/100. Once the proof I've requested from everyone else is presented, I'll post mine.
Nah, you don't have that. Your prove the world will not end thing is just your way of not showing something you are clearly manufacturing.

Anyways, I answered your little narrow concern, and even did it in a way to humor you. Now let's see if you will do the same with regard to the bulk of the industry, since you avoided this question last time, and I assume you will do it again (riggies gonna riggie)

Yes or no - are your RnG "concerns" only on rooms with no downloadable hand histories? Yes or no? If no, then why have you not used hand histories on those other rooms to prove something. Remember, you were the one that claimed to have 340,000 hands on an opponent who won at 5BB/100 when you were doing that superuser whatever that you dropped. Whatever happened to those screenshots you promised - as obviously that was on a room with downloadable HHs. Feel free to ignore this in your next post, as you did in the post above as I predicted .

All the best.
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06-21-2020 , 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by TheoryJuicer
I can assure you the feeling is mutual. Which is why I ignore 99% of your posts in case you hadn't noticed.
And there was me thinking it was because you lacked a witty riposte.
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06-21-2020 , 02:06 PM
Hey. Isle of man and malta, you got something to say now.
Its tk1133. How do you like them apples
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06-21-2020 , 02:22 PM
For those curious, this apparently is the followup post of his last post from over two years ago here (quick posts from user search)

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Originally Posted by RockyV
Once upon a time....
I remember seeing a video circulating back around 2004 ish of a taliban terrorist group being captured and the prisoners being marched to transport vehicles.
One if the prisoner was yell8ng, "sell your US dollars!" While one of the hooded gaurds was trying to put his hand over his mouth to shut him up....to be continued...
Guess this was the long awaited "to be continued" and the reality is - it is actually more entertaining, albeit bizarre, than any of the Boredom riggie's content. Well done, and see you in 2023 or so for the next important installment on the Taliban Malus Pumila Chronicle!

All the best.
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06-21-2020 , 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike Haven
TrollJuice

Please start an AMA thread.

Judging by your interesting, informative and carefully constructed posts in here, together with your original repartee, I am sure that questioning minds from a wider audience would enjoy it and finding out more about you and your thoughts, history, and aspirations. (Of course, it is accepted universally that you would not have to answer any questions you feel are too personal or difficult or delving, so you need not fear one, as with your opening, say, of a general Probability thread.)

The topic of such a thread would be you, and therefore you would not be restricted by having to discuss rigged RNGs and the like, as in this thread. A free reign for you, (if you'll forgive the pun, apt though it may be).

Still sticking up for super user hackers?
Like remote accessing computers, and having a program reaarange all the whole cards for people to see?

Isle of mann and malta you are now on the terror watch list
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06-21-2020 , 02:48 PM
As long as the apples they provide are tasty then that is a reasonable trade-off.

Thanks for the update, and ideally some of the other riggies will discuss the topics you brought here later today, and I strongly suggest you stick around to engage them to see how their beliefs can work with yours, whether fruit related or not. Perhaps you can show the profiler how he can put the bad apple sites on the terror watch list. An apple a day keeps the superusers away.

All the best.
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06-21-2020 , 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by a dewd
People in the poker world care about integrity as a whole.


You beauty.

Have a nice day shilling.
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06-21-2020 , 05:37 PM
I see people are bashing and making fun of others for being skeptical about the app. I have played this app and pppoker for a long time. You make money, then it's like when you make so much, you get shut down. So I want anyone of you to explain this and do the math. 9×4=36.. 52-36=16 cards left in the deck and all of them happen to be clubs? There's 11 clubs in play here on poker bros, the hand I was in, and there's 10 in play not counting what the other player had on pppoker. I wasn't in the pppoker hand, but I screenshot it to post. I hope these pics come through. http://imgur.com/a/vZ28Zca
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06-21-2020 , 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by TheoryJuicer
... Thanks for the offer Mike but I have a feeling you're not being genuine It did give me a good laugh though
I can assure you that my words are as genuine as yours. How could you think otherwise?

Dooo it.
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06-21-2020 , 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Ginyu6869
I see people are bashing and making fun of others for being skeptical about the app. I have played this app and pppoker for a long time. You make money, then it's like when you make so much, you get shut down. So I want anyone of you to explain this and do the math. 9×4=36.. 52-36=16 cards left in the deck and all of them happen to be clubs? There's 11 clubs in play here on poker bros, the hand I was in, and there's 10 in play not counting what the other player had on pppoker. I wasn't in the pppoker hand, but I screenshot it to post. I hope these pics come through. http://imgur.com/a/vZ28Zca
Taxi to the Rigged Thread please.
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06-21-2020 , 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Ginyu6869
I see people are bashing and making fun of others for being skeptical about the app. I have played this app and pppoker for a long time. You make money, then it's like when you make so much, you get shut down. So I want anyone of you to explain this and do the math. 9×4=36.. 52-36=16 cards left in the deck and all of them happen to be clubs? There's 11 clubs in play here on poker bros, the hand I was in, and there's 10 in play not counting what the other player had on pppoker. I wasn't in the pppoker hand, but I screenshot it to post. I hope these pics come through. http://imgur.com/a/vZ28Zca
Wut?

16 cards left in deck, all happen to be clubs, and 11 or 10 on the board?

Perhaps you could explain the math to me and if there are 27 and 26 clubs in a deck I'd say it is probably.....faulty.

If you're trying to suggest there is some sort of shadiness due to two cherry picked hand, well....lol

How about quads losing to a straight flush and ace high flush out, too. That, although rare, happens. They often refer to it as a BadBeat jackpot hand.

I think people laugh at someone that cherry picks two hands as a basis for showing a faulty game.
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06-21-2020 , 06:21 PM
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You beauty.



Have a nice day shilling.
You haz da dumb. You know it, too.

For heaven's sake, stop eating the paint chips. Although, you should talk with Rocky raccoon. I think the two of you probably have a lot in common.
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06-21-2020 , 08:37 PM
Thanks for your input, but it's called cherry picking on your end, but I call it insane and was just pointing out the obvious, cause that's almost the whole suit dealt. I feel that no-one here can contest that they've seen the same thing happen in their entire life of playing poker. I did not use the word rigged, but I see this was asked to be sent to the rigged section, that enough says alot in itself. No matter what, if you don't find this very odd then that's your opinion and that's what I asked for. Hey, some people might believe the sky is yellow
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06-21-2020 , 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Ginyu6869
Thanks for your input, but it's called cherry picking on your end, but I call it insane and was just pointing out the obvious, cause that's almost the whole suit dealt. I feel that no-one here can contest that they've seen the same thing happen in their entire life of playing poker. I did not use the word rigged, but I see this was asked to be sent to the rigged section, that enough says alot in itself. No matter what, if you don't find this very odd then that's your opinion and that's what I asked for. Hey, some people might believe the sky is yellow
How many times have you seen quads lose to a straight flush with and ace high flush? There were 8 cards of one suit in that hand.

How about quads vs quads?

Now, if I said I saw quads vs quads 4 times in two hours of NLHE...that would be something to look into.

Two cherry picked hands, because that is what they are, amounts to nothing.
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06-21-2020 , 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Ginyu6869
Thanks for your input, but it's called cherry picking on your end, but I call it insane and was just pointing out the obvious, cause that's almost the whole suit dealt. I feel that no-one here can contest that they've seen the same thing happen in their entire life of playing poker. I did not use the word rigged, but I see this was asked to be sent to the rigged section, that enough says alot in itself. No matter what, if you don't find this very odd then that's your opinion and that's what I asked for. Hey, some people might believe the sky is yellow
No, it's called cherry picking on your end. The reason there is a separate thread is so that less experienced players who don't understand numbers very well get to let off steam without cluttering up other threads. If and when you have something of substance to post, something that resembles some sort of evidence, then people will be more than interested to listen and engage in conversation. Posting two hands- from two different sites- that have a lot of clubs on the board is far from illuminating.
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06-21-2020 , 09:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Ginyu6869
I see people are bashing and making fun of others for being skeptical about the app. I have played this app and pppoker for a long time. You make money, then it's like when you make so much, you get shut down. So I want anyone of you to explain this and do the math. 9×4=36.. 52-36=16 cards left in the deck and all of them happen to be clubs? There's 11 clubs in play here on poker bros, the hand I was in, and there's 10 in play not counting what the other player had on pppoker. I wasn't in the pppoker hand, but I screenshot it to post. I hope these pics come through. http://imgur.com/a/vZ28Zca
Bud dont buy into the back and fourth here just not worth the time and effort. I posted a few hands here and same clowns say they are cherry picked. Like im going to post tons of hands in this forum but I do have a imgur with 100s of "cherry picked hands some running back to back as it shows in the hand history.

I've come to the conclusion these guys wipe their asses with 100.00$ bills. So if you have deep pockets on poker bros and you fire enough bullets may you have a positive outcome eventually but no different then flipping a coin can't lose them all.

I got hand examples showing flopped set of queens and guys stays in with a pair of aces and deuce kicker to hit runner runner a2. Also examples of how the software dropped runner runner paired board 8/20 hands in big pot situations 3 or more all in on the flop.

Just not worth your breathe in this thread and then you need to read threw mountains of text too which I skim rather then read because its just someone's over inflated ego contributing absolutely nothing to the post at hand.
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06-22-2020 , 12:19 AM
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Bud dont buy into the back and fourth here just not worth the time and effort. I posted a few hands here and same clowns say they are cherry picked. Like im going to post tons of hands in this forum but I do have a imgur with 100s of "cherry picked hands some running back to back as it shows in the hand history.

I've come to the conclusion these guys wipe their asses with 100.00$ bills. So if you have deep pockets on poker bros and you fire enough bullets may you have a positive outcome eventually but no different then flipping a coin can't lose them all.

I got hand examples showing flopped set of queens and guys stays in with a pair of aces and deuce kicker to hit runner runner a2. Also examples of how the software dropped runner runner paired board 8/20 hands in big pot situations 3 or more all in on the flop.

Just not worth your breathe in this thread and then you need to read threw mountains of text too which I skim rather then read because its just someone's over inflated ego contributing absolutely nothing to the post at hand.
You have a fundamentally flawed concept of number sense. Your posts display flaw after flaw after flaw. For example, from your last post, this is just garbled nonsense:

"So if you have deep pockets on poker bros and you fire enough bullets may you have a positive outcome eventually but no different then flipping a coin can't lose them all."


It literally makes no sense.

Last edited by MeleaB; 06-22-2020 at 12:30 AM.
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06-22-2020 , 03:41 AM
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I got hand examples showing flopped set of queens and guys stays in with a pair of aces and deuce kicker to hit runner runner a2. Also examples of how the software dropped runner runner paired board 8/20 hands in big pot situations 3 or more all in on the flop.
If you have proof, show it.
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