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05-17-2020 , 07:54 PM
Keep us updated with how you and your buddy exploit the rig for millions as it will serve as an inspiration to the normal riggies here who utterly refuse to exploit rigs they see with their own eyes and continue to lose and complain about it. You and your buddy can be a beacon of hope, and the best part is - you never have to post a single actual hand history. Just say what happens and that will be enough. Finally - riggies who actually like money!

All the best.
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05-17-2020 , 08:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Monteroy
Keep us updated with how you and your buddy exploit the rig for millions as it will serve as an inspiration to the normal riggies here who utterly refuse to exploit rigs they see with their own eyes and continue to lose and complain about it. You and your buddy can be a beacon of hope, and the best part is - you never have to post a single actual hand history. Just say what happens and that will be enough. Finally - riggies who actually like money!

All the best.
Thank you, yeah i haven’t posted a hand history like the typical fat loser here who posts his AA getting cracked by 73o my bad
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05-17-2020 , 08:58 PM
That is because you are smart enough to play 73o on a site where literally every time 73o will beat AA, and there is no way to test otherwise, so you are finally carving a path to riches that has been undiscovered by riggies in this industry for decades before you. Godspeed to you 73o riggie, just try to not all off the edge of the Earth!

All the best.
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05-17-2020 , 09:36 PM
[QUOTE=Monteroy;56131967]That is because you are smart enough to play 73o on a site where literally every time 73o will beat AA, and there is no way to test otherwise, so you are finally carving a path to riches that has been undiscovered by riggies in this industry for decades before you. Godspeed to you 73o riggie, just try to not all off the edge of the Earth!

All the best.[/QUOTE

Again why do you speak when you have no damn clue?You use what you believe to be statistical data to form your rebuttals. Being you having no experience with the site in question how are you the authority on this matter?

Go play some hands on Poker Bros get some knowledge and maybe I will humor you with some "evidence". But you won't you will just continue to belittle people for what they are experiencing.
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05-17-2020 , 09:44 PM
I am basing this entirely on what you guys, who play there, are saying, and a couple have suggested they have exploited the rig in this regard, so forget me and perhaps listen to the advice of those who played there and succeeded by making sure they only went all-in as an underdog.

If you have an issue with that then you will have to dispute that with the other riggies from that specific site. If I play there - then if I do not report what you want to believe you will simply not believe me, so again - forget me and read what the other riggies from that site are doing to defeat it and stop hating money so much. They like money and win it by making sure they are always the underdog. Why have you not embraced that approach that others from your site, who played there a lot, have done for success?

All the best.
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05-17-2020 , 09:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Monteroy
I am basing this entirely on what you guys are saying, and a couple have suggested they have exploited the rig in this regard, so forget me and perhaps listen to the advice of those who played there and succeeded by making sure they only went all-in as an underdog.

If you have an issue with that m then you will have to dispute that with the other riggies from that specific site. If I play there - then if I do not report what you want to believe you will simply not believe me, so again - forget me and read what the other riggies from that site are doing to defeat it and stop hating money so much. They like money and win it by making sure they are always the underdog. Why have you nto embraced that approach that others from your site, who played there a lot, have done for success?

All the best.
Well we were discussing amongst us players of Poker Bros. Then admin booted these post over here, yet the thread was Poker Bros discussion. Just can't question how the cards fall without claiming rig.
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05-17-2020 , 10:13 PM
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Well we were discussing amongst us players of Poker Bros. Then admin booted these post over here, yet the thread was Poker Bros discussion. Just can't question how the cards fall without claiming rig.
The owners of the software do not collect any rake. It is pointless for them to waste time thinking about it. The rake is divided among the union, agents, and players.

The real issue is collusion and shady agents. The site sells the fugazi chips as a source of revenue
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05-17-2020 , 10:14 PM
They do not care about real world details like that.


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Well we were discussing amongst us players of Poker Bros. Then admin booted these post over here, yet the thread was Poker Bros discussion. Just can't question how the cards fall without claiming rig.

Well, you were discussing riggie stuff so it came here, but as I mentioned - the people who also play there are the ones who have talked about how they have beaten the rig. They say the underdogs always get there. Do you dispute their belief in the rig, and if so - what is yours. If you do not, then why not make bank like they do by playing underdogs knowing they will always win.

If I was playing a game where I knew the underdog literally always won - it would not be difficult to beat that game. Couple other riggies, who play on your site, and see the card with their own eyes, are doing that to win, so what is the problem?

All the best.
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05-18-2020 , 08:58 AM
I am playing online with ACR. There is an account that I know is either a house account or a Super user. I reported the account. All of the sudden the username stops playing for 36 hours even though they are one of the Beast Leaders every week. Now they report back that they find no wrong doing. Immediately after my email the guy is back at 12 tables. I have lost over 1000 dollars to this one username in a small amount of time and I watch others lose all of the time. Is there anything I can do?
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05-18-2020 , 09:00 AM
Stop playing against him.
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05-18-2020 , 09:02 AM
To start, consider posting evidence of this.
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05-18-2020 , 09:27 AM
I agree that it is good to not play against him. The problem is he plays at every .50/1.00 and 1/2 table that is 9 man. I have a ton of hands that he won from 3 sessions. I can post them, but how does that prove anything. It is not like he is shoving 23 off suit and winning. He wins every big pot he is in. It is like he knows what cards are coming.
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05-18-2020 , 09:53 AM
Here are the 6 1/2 tables that I have played on the site. All of them have the player on the site. Some of them are short playing periods because I got stacked. I will post my .50/1.00 tables next. In addition I have spent hours watching him and he NEVER loses big pots.


1. Table Douglass Hills 1/2 No Limit

Player in for 80.00 out for 348.00 75 minutes

2. Table Eckley 1/2 No Limit

Player in for 107.56 out for 303.41 90 minutes

3. Table Hollister 1/2 No Limit

Player in for 80 out for 88.00 8 minutes

4. Table Hunter Hollow 1/2 No Limit

Player in for 206 out for 418 8 minutes

5. Table Madiera Beach 1/2 No Limit

In for 75.95 out for 363.88 3 hours 35 minutes

6. Table Rifle 1/2 No Limit

In for 86.60 out for 88.50 3 hours
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05-18-2020 , 10:11 AM
The findings in .50/1.00 are nothing crazy but I want to post them just to be up front. In all of the hours posted in .50/1 and 1/2 I have never seen him stack a single player. He even randomly ends up all in for 25 bucks in the .50/1.00 a7 vs aK and just happens to flop a 7 to win that all in. In 20 hours of .50/1.00 and 1/2 tables he has never lost a buy in. I have many more hours that I have watched. There is 0 percent the player is legit. Is there anything that can be done?

Del Mar .50/1.00

In for 36.50 out for 60.35 2 hours 5 minutes

Dwight .50/1.00

In for 40.00 out for 32.50 15 minutes

Hayden .50/100

In for 40.00 out for 60.00 90 minutes

Table Kersey .50/100

In for 63.21 out for 50.72 2 hours 5 minutes

Table Palisade .50/1.00

In for 40.00 out for 18.48 2 hours 10 minutes

Table Ringgold .50/1.00

In for 38.50 out for 58.10 2 hours
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05-18-2020 , 10:31 AM
Super users do not know what cards are coming. They know the hole cards of other players.

watch this video for better explanation.

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05-18-2020 , 10:40 AM
Thanks for the video. I think it is far more likely this is a house account. This player makes crazy value bets and just happens to always be right. It is so frustrating because I know the player is not real.
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05-18-2020 , 10:49 AM
Um, you did not provide hand histories. You provided a trend. Some players like the 9max games because they are soft.

Without evidence, all you show is a smart player that doesn't stack off.

ACR claims they don't have house accounts. So, you need to out the player name, then it can be investigated. Watch the video.
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05-18-2020 , 10:59 AM
Interesting thread because I've had my eye on 2 different 1-2 / .50-1 players

If this is the particular guy I'm thinking of, this player does stack off....and often...but never loses.

99 vs kk pre and wins
Kq vs aq on queen high flop and wins
Or like Jayhawk said above a7 vs ak pre and wins

I've seen this particular player always end up on the right side of a cooler and never the wrong side.

Would be interesting to see if it's the player I think it is.
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05-18-2020 , 11:04 AM
The player is Johndoe12345. I can give you hand numbers of big hands that he won. I don’t see craziness in the big pots he won, but he just always seems to have virtual nuts and always makes perfect value bets. On the surface he could be a good player, but great players lose all in pots. In 20 hours I have seen him put chips in at 30 percent and win. I have seen him put chips in at 80 percent a bunch of times. ALL wins. The odds are impossible to win 12-15 straight all ins.
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05-18-2020 , 11:26 AM
Okay, guys. I can tell you have not watched the video. Because of the frequency of posts. Please watch the video.

Super Users and house accounts (illegitimate ones) tend to play higher stakes. And there are higher stake games running on ACR. Why stick with $25 win when you can make it $2500?

Take the time to watch and understand the process.
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05-18-2020 , 11:30 AM
So you are saying that there is only 1 way that a site can cheat. Maybe it was high stakes games and now it is 12 tables of low stakes. If the site makes more money that is all they care about. 0 chance it is a real player.
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05-18-2020 , 11:35 AM
If you take a little bit from a lot of players it doesn’t set off red flags. I am sure ACR is well aware of what happened with Ultimate Bet taking money from top Pros.
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05-18-2020 , 11:37 AM
[QUOTE=Jayhawk23;56133204]If you take a little bit from a lot of players it doesn’t set off red flags. I am sure ACR is well aware of what happened with Ultimate Bet taking money from top Pros.
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05-18-2020 , 11:39 AM
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So you are saying that there is only 1 way that a site can cheat. Maybe it was high stakes games and now it is 12 tables of low stakes. If the site makes more money that is all they care about. 0 chance it is a real player.
There is one way to show any shady doings, that is with evidence. Surmising of potential ways a site or player could cheat is hot air and will get no credible discussion except head nodding from riggies that also have no evidence.
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05-18-2020 , 11:40 AM
Bill bellicheat has found many ways for the Patriots to cheat. He doesn’t always use the same playbook.
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