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View Poll Results: Is Online Poker Rigged?
Yes
3,502 34.89%
No
5,607 55.86%
Undecided
929 9.25%

02-17-2020 , 08:53 PM
He had like 21% dumbass. Nice potbet on the flop too.
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02-17-2020 , 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Kelvis
He had like 21% dumbass. Nice potbet on the flop too.
LOL - only in online poker in 2020 is getting the money in as a huge favorite constantly bad play. As said: It's unbelievably rigged. That's what...7 or 8 of those in less than 2 full days? There's zero point to playing a game like that. You're literally NOT allowed to win money.
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02-17-2020 , 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Javoc
theres no way its rigged. ive been able to make a ton of money over 5-6k games and only times i find myself losing is when my game gets sloppy

edit: super using is probably the only rigging and its super rare
But yet you DO see the hands I'm posting. That's all that ever happens to me and everyone I know. Zero point to playing anymore.

As said: /poker quit. I can't waste time on this anymore lol.
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02-17-2020 , 08:59 PM
So you run bad over a 2 day sample and lost a bit more than you were expected to lose being a horrible player. Big woohoo.
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02-17-2020 , 09:01 PM
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Originally Posted by MomsBasement420
But yet you DO see the hands I'm posting. That's all that ever happens to me and everyone I know. Zero point to playing anymore.

As said: /poker quit. I can't waste time on this anymore lol.
play on acr. ignition is so sketchy. wtf. they dont even have screen names - u were probably playing against bots by yourself
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02-18-2020 , 04:53 AM
If an obvious poker genius like Moms420 isn't crushing online, then a rigged RNG is the only plausible explanation
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02-18-2020 , 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by lagtight
If an obvious poker genius like Moms420 isn't crushing online even though he religiously keeps stacking his opponents, then a rigged RNG is the only plausible explanation
FYP
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02-18-2020 , 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by MomsBasement420
https://play.globalpoker.com/gp/10/h...819e00010933fc

Another one. 90%+ beat.

/poker quit. Dumbest game ever.
78%. Stop guessing and learn the odds. He wins this hand more than 1 out of 5. And since you apparently only get it in with super premium hands, this is going to happen to you a LOT.
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02-18-2020 , 06:04 PM
Also why is Ignitions rng certificate from iTech Labs expired?
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02-18-2020 , 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by ignitionisrigged
Also why is Ignitions rng certificate from iTech Labs expired?
Because Ignition is rigged, silly!
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02-18-2020 , 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by MomsBasement420
FYP
Huh?????
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02-18-2020 , 06:57 PM
I just lost KKvTT AIPF in a $2.20 Bounty Builder on Pokerstars vs a Brazilian player. He shoved UTG with 30bb. Smells rigged, doesn't it. I think I had like 98.7% to win, using my math skills. Although he spiked a T on the flop, so I think it was lower chance. Not sure, need to run sims, gonna take a while on 3rd gen i7 processor.

You guys trust Pokerstars RNG? Should I start playing on Ignition? Is it even more rigged? Is live poker also rigged?
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02-18-2020 , 07:59 PM
I take my previous message back, Pokerstars not rigged. Same tourney, so it cancels out previous suckout.

PokerStars, $1.96 + $0.24 - Hold'em No Limit - 300/600 (90 ante) - 9 players
Hand delivered by Upswing Poker

UTG: 83,216 (139 bb)
UTG+1 (Hero): 10,813 (18 bb)
MP: 58,637 (98 bb)
MP+1: 39,787 (66 bb)
LP: 14,195 (24 bb)
CO: 13,145 (22 bb)
BU: 26,247 (44 bb)
SB: 7,185 (12 bb)
BB: 6,880 (11 bb)

Pre-Flop: (1,710) Hero is UTG+1 with 6 6
UTG calls 600, Hero raises to 10,723 (all-in), 1 fold, MP+1 calls 10,723, 2 players fold, BTN calls 10,723, 2 players fold, UTG 3-bets to 20,846, MP+1 4-bets to 39,697 (all-in), BTN calls 15,434 (all-in), UTG calls 18,851

Flop: (117,984) Q 6 8 (4 players, 3 all-in)

Turn: (117,984) J (4 players, 3 all-in)

River: (117,984) 6 (4 players, 3 all-in)

Total pot: 117,984

Showdown:
MP+1 shows A A (two pair, Aces and Sixes)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 53%, Flop: 13%, Turn: 5%, River: 0%)

UTG shows Q Q (a full house, Queens full of Sixes)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 19%, Flop: 77%, Turn: 93%, River: 0%)

UTG+1 (Hero) shows 6 6 (four of a kind, Sixes)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 14%, Flop: 5%, Turn: 3%, River: 100%)

BU shows 7 7 (two pair, Sevens and Sixes)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 14%, Flop: 6%, Turn: 0%, River: 0%)

UTG wins 73,382
UTG+1 (Hero) wins 44,602
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02-18-2020 , 10:47 PM
I feel for some of the cheating poker rooms once the people who can actually do something about it wake up and realize how badly they've been deceived...i'm not sure their far flung islands will be of much refuge anymore when that day comes...hopefully for their sake they don't get old school poker cheater justice
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02-18-2020 , 11:10 PM
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Originally Posted by BlisterXists
once the people who can actually do something about it wake up and realize how badly they've been deceived
Who are these people? Genuinely curious.
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02-19-2020 , 12:29 AM
how long you going to ignore my legitimate screenshots and death threats in the 888 thread and worry about this useless trash can of a thread. We all know the answers. They are not to be found herein but elsewhere.

useless

demiurge

servant
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02-19-2020 , 12:37 AM
the answer to your questions that you so desperately seek are not to be found herein.

you can find the answers in the GGpoker thread the 888 poker thread the pokerstars thread etc. Not the rig thread. rotf lmao

and no i havent voted and i wont, we already know so we dont spend all this time seeking.

knowledge from experience, truth, screenshots. Not distraction from the truth.
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02-19-2020 , 01:39 AM


https://calvinayre.com/2015/09/03/po...yers-bl-video/

Finding the Balance Between Poker Sharks and Amateur Players


"Poker is all about entertainment, but recently, there has been an imbalance between the pros and the fish that play on the poker sits and the poker rooms. David Sklansky, poker writer at Two plus Two Publishing, said having too many pros in the smaller games is dangerous."

This is interesting. If you were an operator and you wondered how to fix the problem what would you do?
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02-19-2020 , 03:08 AM
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Originally Posted by MomsBasement420
FYP
This song might as well be about you and your elevated perception of your poker skills.




Jim Croce: he wrote about the Dunning-Kruger effect years before Dunning and Kruger did.
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02-19-2020 , 03:12 AM
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Originally Posted by JamesHarrison
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I guess this bizarre post is meant for me?

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Originally Posted by JamesHarrison
how long you going to ignore my legitimate screenshots and death threats in the 888 thread
I have no idea what you're babbling about. If this is a 2+2 issue, the 888 thread is an odd place to post it. And if it's an 888 issue, I don't know what you're expecting me to do. As for ignoring it - do you think I read every post on 2+2?

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Originally Posted by JamesHarrison
and worry about this useless trash can of a thread.
Who's worrying about this thread?

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Originally Posted by JamesHarrison
We all know the answers. They are not to be found herein but elsewhere.
What answers are you talking about?

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Originally Posted by JamesHarrison
useless

demiurge

servant
You have an odd way of seeking help. I don't know what your 888 issue is, but if it's not being addressed, I wouldn't be even slightly surprised if the way you choose to interact with people has a lot to do with it.

Also, you have a very strange obsession with demiurges.

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Originally Posted by JamesHarrison
the answer to your questions that you so desperately seek are not to be found herein.
What makes you think anyone is seeking answers here?
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02-19-2020 , 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by BlisterXists
i'm not sure their far flung islands will be of much refuge anymore when that day comes...hopefully for their sake they don't get old school poker cheater justice
Sounds like movie material.."The royal navy of Rigtardia sets course for the Isle of Man to bring justice to the evil pirates of Pokerstars"
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02-19-2020 , 09:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Bobo Fett
Who are these people? Genuinely curious.
Good point Sir; not that you are saying online is not rigged; it is just that the people who think it is are believed to be too weak to do anything about it, right?

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Originally Posted by MomsBasement420
I'm just curious: If someone averages 90%+ equity on all ins in NLHE, over a large sample, but just keeps losing pots to horrific beats and cannot profit as a result - Which "skillz" should he spend time improving off the tables? I'm serious...
The skill of getting out of online poker as fast as you could say "Online Poker is Rigged"

Last edited by Mike Haven; 02-20-2020 at 11:29 AM. Reason: 2 posts merged
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02-19-2020 , 10:03 PM
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Originally Posted by dacy
Good point Sir; not that you are saying online is not rigged; it is just that the people who think it is are believed to be too weak to do anything about it, right?
I wasn't making a point, I was asking a question. I even added "Genuinely curious." right after the question to make it completely clear that it was a question and not some passive aggressive way of making a point. And that's certainly not a point I'd be making anyway.
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02-20-2020 , 03:48 PM
There ya go folks ignitions software aint rigged because they say so and they don't need a license their word is more important than not having a license for the last 3 years and their rng cert terminated by a credible company"
If anyone don't find this highly suspect your dellusanional at the worst. In the USA you can't even sell cigaretts without a license yet these people have been operating a casino for 4 years without a license now and people keep saying everything is kosher.

"Matt
Forum Moderator
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@kcclucky Thank you for bringing this up to the rest of the forum as we’d love
to clear things up.

As per the letter you posted we voluntarily terminated our license with the Kahnawake gaming commission back in 2016. While at the moment we may not operate under a gaming commission, we fully comply with the rules and regulations imposed by the gaming industry and I can assure you that all personal and financial information of our players is safe.

We are actively exploring new licensing possibilities and of course once we have an update, we will let you know.

Now having said that, I can understand your concerns regarding our casino games but I can assure you that the RNG that we utilize, guarantees the unpredictability of our games whilst ensuring that their outcome is fair and not foreseen.

In such a big industry, the trust of our players is very important and as we have earned a very renowned reputation, we would not do anything to jeopardize that trust.

If you have concerns or would like us to investigate any issues, we are always here to help, so please let us know."
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02-21-2020 , 05:10 AM
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Originally Posted by ignitionisrigged
In such a big industry, the trust of our players is very important and as we have earned a very renowned reputation, we would not do anything to jeopardize that trust.

If you have concerns or would like us to investigate any issues, we are always here to help, so please let us know."
Hah, reputation, while some 40% believe online is rigged, even in this well moderated and heavily populated with industry shills forum. But I am sure there might be some lower level idealistic type of employees who truly believe that the industry would not do anything to jeopardize (the almost non-existing) trust. My advice to them: Live and see.

They are always there to help, yeah? Not in my experience... Once you start with inconvenient questions, like trying to get some clarification on how they rob you and why, on say why some accounts have 90% success rate on all in coin flips against you, then you are immediately labelled as a problematic gambler (read one who creates problems for the industry), and the only help you are going to ever get is to be shown the door. In a sense, it is better than keeping losing your money there, so appreciated
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