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Old 09-16-2009, 10:42 PM   #8551
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Re: Harrahs and 888

Oh you said true. I see.

Well this would still fit just as well in one of the NVG threads or the thread already in this forum.
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Old 09-16-2009, 10:42 PM   #8552
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lol @ OP , how did you go this long without the Perma Ban Hammer ? Good job lasting this long
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Old 09-16-2009, 10:47 PM   #8553
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This might be the dumbest thread I've ever seen.
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Old 09-16-2009, 10:59 PM   #8554
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I remember reading somewhere that they have the only true rng of all the sites

I was told by someone that Paradise had the best RNG. Then somebody cut them off and said that Empire clearly did. They were able to 'just tell' based on the beats they had taken at each site. I wish I had that ability.
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Old 09-16-2009, 11:06 PM   #8555
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How I can tell who has the best RNG is, after a hand you have to watch the monitor screen real close to see how "good" the dealer shuffles. Some sites just don't give a crap and the dealer doesn't really mix them up good.
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Old 09-17-2009, 05:29 AM   #8556
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In before my merge.

Wheeeeeeeeeeeee
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Old 09-17-2009, 05:36 AM   #8557
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In before my merge.

Wheeeeeeeeeeeee
What I want to know is: What the hell happened to Bobo Fett?

Did he get eaten?

He was good and I can't be doing with all this new fangled stuff.

D'y'know I've even heard tell they've got the internet on computers now?
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Old 09-17-2009, 05:39 AM   #8558
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How I can tell who has the best RNG is, after a hand you have to watch the monitor screen real close to see how "good" the dealer shuffles. Some sites just don't give a crap and the dealer doesn't really mix them up good.


Those sly dogs...
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Old 09-17-2009, 05:17 PM   #8559
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I was 2 tabling a few months ago, and got KK on one table, AA on the other. I won a huuuuuuuge pot on both tables (just the blinds with KK, the blinds, a limp, and a raise with AA) and then the next hands were dealt. 22 on the table I had KK on, and...AA on the AA table! And if that's not enough, they were the same suit! Unfortunately, the second go-round I lost 33 big blinds to a short stacker who jammed a 2Q5 flop with AQ, and got another Q on the river! So rigged!
Nothing. That's nothing! The same thing happened to me when I was 4-tabling, except that I broke even. I doubled up with KK and lost with AA. Then the very next month, again I had KK and AA at the same time, only this time I won with AA and lost with KK. I won't name the site this happened on...

Also, about a year and a half ago I got AA twice in a row in a live tournament. I doubled up with the first hand, and then everyone folded to my raise on the next one. It was like they could all see my cards!

Clearly, something is going on with the universe.
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Old 09-18-2009, 11:27 AM   #8560
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The Superbots are everywhere
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Old 09-18-2009, 11:28 AM   #8561
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Dont you see them? Really?
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Old 09-18-2009, 12:18 PM   #8562
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Dont you see them? Really?
Yea, man, everywhere ...

Pretty pink ones and little lime green ones.

And they make the voices in your head, don't they?

And tell you to shoot your parole officer?
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Old 09-18-2009, 03:57 PM   #8563
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re: The great "Poker is rigged" debate - Collected threads edition

It's funny how the best regs at FTP hardly even play there anymore.
The seats are filled up with donkeys and suspicious fools, who always hit.
Why would most of the regs suddenly disappear, if it was legit.
Maybe they realized that they can't win for long, because FTP is always waiting to screw you over, and help the next donk think he actually has a clue.
Playing at FTP is sickening. Its hard to believe so many people still play.
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Old 09-18-2009, 04:00 PM   #8564
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Just to give riggedologists some hope, the opponent in this hand was convinced that bad play was rewarded on Stars. I made the natural suggestion that he should then play badly on purpose to rake in the chips, he said he would

Poker Stars $3.00+$0.30 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t125/t250 Blinds + t25 - 9 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

Hero (BTN): t14400 M = 24
SB: t10475 M = 17.46
BB: t29250 M = 48.75
UTG: t16825 M = 28.04
UTG+1: t12647 M = 21.08
UTG+2: t10825 M = 18.04
MP1: t8700 M = 14.50
MP2: t13100 M = 21.83
CO: t10966 M = 18.28

Pre Flop: (t600) Hero is BTN with K 4
2 folds, UTG+2 calls t250, 2 folds, CO calls t250, Hero raises to t1750, 3 folds, CO calls t1500

Flop: (t4350) T 3 A (2 players)
CO bets t1000, Hero raises to t12625 all in, CO calls t8191 all in

Turn: (t22732) 4 (2 players - 2 are all in)

River: (t22732) 2 (2 players - 2 are all in)

Final Pot: t22732
Hero shows K 4 (a pair of Fours)
CO shows 4 2 (two pair, Fours and Deuces)
CO wins t22732


Oops.


Props to him for at least following through on his beliefs.


I followed up by cracking KK with AQ.

Feel free to use this important data as you see fit.
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Old 09-18-2009, 05:48 PM   #8565
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re: The great "Poker is rigged" debate - Collected threads edition

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Just to give riggedologists some hope, the opponent in this hand was convinced that bad play was rewarded on Stars. I made the natural suggestion that he should then play badly on purpose to rake in the chips, he said he would

Poker Stars $3.00+$0.30 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t125/t250 Blinds + t25 - 9 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

Hero (BTN): t14400 M = 24
SB: t10475 M = 17.46
BB: t29250 M = 48.75
UTG: t16825 M = 28.04
UTG+1: t12647 M = 21.08
UTG+2: t10825 M = 18.04
MP1: t8700 M = 14.50
MP2: t13100 M = 21.83
CO: t10966 M = 18.28

Pre Flop: (t600) Hero is BTN with K 4
2 folds, UTG+2 calls t250, 2 folds, CO calls t250, Hero raises to t1750, 3 folds, CO calls t1500

Flop: (t4350) T 3 A (2 players)
CO bets t1000, Hero raises to t12625 all in, CO calls t8191 all in

Turn: (t22732) 4 (2 players - 2 are all in)

River: (t22732) 2 (2 players - 2 are all in)

Final Pot: t22732
Hero shows K 4 (a pair of Fours)
CO shows 4 2 (two pair, Fours and Deuces)
CO wins t22732


Oops.


Props to him for at least following through on his beliefs.


I followed up by cracking KK with AQ.

Feel free to use this important data as you see fit.
He missed his flush draw? How does that look "rigged?"
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Old 09-18-2009, 05:57 PM   #8566
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He missed his flush draw? How does that look "rigged?"
I can be down, in a bad mood, in the dumps, and TK's posts never fail to bring a smile to my face!
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Old 09-18-2009, 06:45 PM   #8567
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It's funny how the best regs at FTP hardly even play there anymore.
The seats are filled up with donkeys and suspicious fools, who always hit.
Why would most of the regs suddenly disappear, if it was legit.
Maybe they realized that they can't win for long, because FTP is always waiting to screw you over, and help the next donk think he actually has a clue.
Playing at FTP is sickening. Its hard to believe so many people still play.
I have a new theory. Maybe Fulltilt and Pstars have separate sites they send special players to who complain. When you get sent there, you are trapped in a sea of Donkey SUPER-Bots who get lucky over and over against you no matter how well you play. This would explain why no one believes you that it is in fact rigged because they are not playing on the same Fulltilt and Pstars as you are, you are in an evil alternate universe that has you forever trapped in a nightmare of two outers one hand after another.

This would explain everything. You should take some screen shots of the alternate Fulltilt so that we can show proof beyond a shadow of a doubt that it does in fact exist. This will shut all of the shills and trolls up for good on this rigged forum.
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Old 09-18-2009, 06:52 PM   #8568
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I know a guy in the biz. He told me that his job is rigging up poker hands and messing with peoples minds. They have super computers that target players that are good who they can mess with and make them tilt and lose like everyone else. He sticks with these players for thousands of hands and changes the turn and river cards when he sees fit. He says he feels sick about his job but it pays very good and he needs the money. Also he is really good a sewing, he told me all of this one night when we were high on o2.
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Old 09-18-2009, 09:48 PM   #8569
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Also he is really good a sewing, he told me all of this one night when we were high on o2.
Aha. The fact that he is good at sewing is crucial. That allows him to buy "patterns" off the internet, without anyone raising suspicion.
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Old 09-18-2009, 10:39 PM   #8570
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Full Tilt is rigged. I can almost guarantee that.
Anyone who disagrees has their head up their ass.
Dumb people are funny.
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Old 09-18-2009, 11:01 PM   #8571
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I know a guy in the biz. He told me that his job is rigging up poker hands and messing with peoples minds. They have super computers that target players that are good who they can mess with and make them tilt and lose like everyone else. He sticks with these players for thousands of hands and changes the turn and river cards when he sees fit. He says he feels sick about his job but it pays very good and he needs the money. Also he is really good a sewing, he told me all of this one night when we were high on o2.
This explains 6 months of bad beats online anytime I am making real progress. God does this to me in the live tournaments because he doesnt want me to be a professional poker player...grrrr....I will fight him to homelessness, and then I will fund my sickness with liquor store robberies....grrrr...
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Old 09-18-2009, 11:07 PM   #8572
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Just to give riggedologists some hope, the opponent in this hand was convinced that bad play was rewarded on Stars. I made the natural suggestion that he should then play badly on purpose to rake in the chips, he said he would

Poker Stars $3.00+$0.30 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t125/t250 Blinds + t25 - 9 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

Hero (BTN): t14400 M = 24
SB: t10475 M = 17.46
BB: t29250 M = 48.75
UTG: t16825 M = 28.04
UTG+1: t12647 M = 21.08
UTG+2: t10825 M = 18.04
MP1: t8700 M = 14.50
MP2: t13100 M = 21.83
CO: t10966 M = 18.28

Pre Flop: (t600) Hero is BTN with K 4
2 folds, UTG+2 calls t250, 2 folds, CO calls t250, Hero raises to t1750, 3 folds, CO calls t1500

Flop: (t4350) T 3 A (2 players)
CO bets t1000, Hero raises to t12625 all in, CO calls t8191 all in

Turn: (t22732) 4 (2 players - 2 are all in)

River: (t22732) 2 (2 players - 2 are all in)

Final Pot: t22732
Hero shows K 4 (a pair of Fours)
CO shows 4 2 (two pair, Fours and Deuces)
CO wins t22732


Oops.


Props to him for at least following through on his beliefs.


I followed up by cracking KK with AQ.

Feel free to use this important data as you see fit.
This is proof...
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Old 09-19-2009, 04:31 AM   #8573
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Aha. The fact that he is good at sewing is crucial. That allows him to buy "patterns" off the internet, without anyone raising suspicion.
Plus he can develop his timing.
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Old 09-19-2009, 04:33 AM   #8574
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Re: bucketfoot: Dumb people are funny.
tk1133 and bucketfoot should become a double act.

With support from supperdish and rounding4rent.

They'd have 'em rolling in the aisles.
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Old 09-20-2009, 03:47 PM   #8575
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I know a guy in the biz. He told me that his job is rigging up poker hands and messing with peoples minds. They have super computers that target players that are good who they can mess with and make them tilt and lose like everyone else. He sticks with these players for thousands of hands and changes the turn and river cards when he sees fit. He says he feels sick about his job but it pays very good and he needs the money. Also he is really good a sewing, he told me all of this one night when we were high on o2.
This would be creepy and scary if you were serious. What a crappy job to have, changing peoples luck to horrific and then having to live with the thought that you are such a low life working for a site that actually employes tactics like these.
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