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View Poll Results: Is Online Poker Rigged?
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3,503 34.88%
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5,609 55.84%
Undecided
932 9.28%

05-27-2017 , 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by alex20823
One of the janitors from the HQ of Pokerstars in the IOM told me once that the RNG itself is not rigged but it is connected to the toilet flushing system. Therefore, everytime somebody at the HQ takes a ****, your A A gets flushed on the river.

Some would say that Pokerstars employees suffer from diarrhea.
Diamond in the rough, I'm dying.
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05-27-2017 , 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by NewOldGuy
I would bet a very large amount that no one anywhere, ever, can provide a verified hand history showing they lost 7 times in a row with AA in a real money game.

I say real money because it's possible if you have 4 or 5 callers to the river every time, which might happen with play money.
I talked to a guy yesterday who told me he lost 11 times in a row with aces on pokerstars. He did not think online poker was rigged.
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05-27-2017 , 10:37 PM
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Originally Posted by COSPADE
WHOEVER PLAYES A FEW MONTHS MULTITABLE ZOOM POKER, WILL REALISE THAT.
Thanks so much for reposting this. When you first posted it 4 months ago, I didn't believe it, but now that you've done so again in all-caps, I know it must be true.

P.S. "lose", not "loose".
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05-28-2017 , 10:59 PM
guys & gals, online poker offered to US players by the illegal operators (lets not pretend u don't know what that is) Is a total ****n scam.

Seriously, who here believes that Lock 3.0 is not around the corner? (I hope not!)

It can be rigged, probably is, and the whole HH bs, that how they busted God Mode. Not a Casino RNG!

Come on

Stop saying it takes xhands, that's bs! You can see a Casino RNG in 10 hands! any 10 hands on bs US illegal sites!

PPL, I hope I am wrong, I really do, but another US poker player ****n is due! It wont be me, I actually play what I can afford. But we are not talking God Mode, we are dealing with operators that know better than us, it is a limited run for them in the US. How long? But they know, we do too.

I wish I could complain about 888, Stars, Party Poker, but

If you don't know Lock rigged hands, you just weren't there with a roll as they played out!

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05-28-2017 , 11:49 PM
G2thV, do you take drugs ?
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05-28-2017 , 11:50 PM
Na quit long ago

hey alex, I get it, its easy to type a few words, but
I mean, I might actually understand if you tell me where I am off track

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05-28-2017 , 11:53 PM
Mhm, seems like the effect hasn't shaken off yet.

For me to be able to tell you where exactly I think you are off track, I would have to be able to fully comprehend what you are saying. Maybe being a little more specific would help.

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05-28-2017 , 11:57 PM
& I see your in Romania, lucky you! You don't play any of the trash illegal sites I do!
See if you live in any state that MY sites offer Poker & Casino, Black Jack & Sports Book, well, ITS ****ING ILEGAL!
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05-28-2017 , 11:59 PM
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Originally Posted by G2thV
hey alex, I get it, its easy to type a few words, but
I mean, I might actually understand if you tell me where I am off track
Right here:

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Originally Posted by G2thV
Stop saying it takes xhands, that's bs! You can see a Casino RNG in 10 hands! any 10 hands on bs US illegal sites!
Also, it would be great if you could complete your thoughts before pressing the "Post Quick Reply" button, so we don't just get your thoughts one sentence at a time, 5 minutes apart. Failing that, there's an "Edit" button that you can use up to 30 minutes later.
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05-29-2017 , 12:00 AM
yeah well lets try again, Casino, Sport Book on line WHERE I LIVE IS LIEGAL! Do you understand that? & bundled with Poker, lol.

I get it, your cluless to that, cause u don't have that problem, good 4 u

sigh, really guys?

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05-29-2017 , 12:02 AM
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Originally Posted by G2thV
yeah well lets try again, Casino, Sport Book on line WHERE I LIVE IS LIEGAL! Do you understand that? & bundled with Poker, lol.

I get it, your cluless to that, cause u don't have that problem, good 4 u
Not sure who that's addressed to, or what it has to do with anything.

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Originally Posted by G2thV
sigh, really guys?
Really, what?
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05-29-2017 , 12:02 AM
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Originally Posted by G2thV
& I see your in Romania, lucky you! You don't play any of the trash illegal sites I do!
See if you live in any state that MY sites offer & Casino, Black Jack & Sports Book, well, ITS ****ING ILEGAL!
I cannot speak for casino games. I have not played anything but poker. I haven't played on ACR or any other US friendly sites but from what I've seen, the complaints about them are the same as the ones about Pokerstars, 888 and any other poker site in the world.

So, most likely your concerns about those sites being rigged are based on nothing more than a little frustration about some bad beads or some run bad.
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05-29-2017 , 12:03 AM
Bobo, seriously, why do you guys do this anymore? Why not shut it down?
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05-29-2017 , 12:06 AM
Why? Someone like you (or like the person you're imitating if this is a silly level) would start another thread just like it.
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05-29-2017 , 12:19 AM
So, I get that u read a little & respond a lot Alex. **** is standard.

I guarantee you, LOCK Rigged hands! I Know cause I won some BS when we all knew they were gone! It was like click & win, YOU WERE NOT THERE, STFU! Don't pretend!

Lock rigged! UB Too, same ****, "we got caught, lets look legit", got $800 out a week b4 BF! Never ran better than after they got caught! LOLOLO

POKER SITES CAN RIG, CASINOS HAVE BEEN DOING IT since Chicago owned Vegas.

Sry, all caps are beneath me, wont do it again.
I wish you guys the best, I really do. But why do you guys do this? I mean if it's if you are so sure, why spend one second on this bs?

I actually appreciate that you guys want people to either get better or keep feeding the pond. I would like to believe that is the point here.

But it (rigging/virtual variance) can be done, probably is, & if it is, you guys would be 1st to condemn it!

More drugs, GN!

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05-29-2017 , 12:43 AM
Don't know about Lock, heard that they were a crappy site that ultimately stole money but no by rigging. The deal at UB was legit, they just had a "tiny" superuser problem.

Can you expand on the term " virtual variance " ?

I wouldn't recommend you to do drugs anymore. I don't think that would be very healthy for your "brain".
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05-29-2017 , 12:47 AM
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Originally Posted by G2thV

I wish I could complain about 888, Stars, Party Poker, but
i have these sites in nj. if you were here and playing them, you would soon realize that they are similar to those you are complaining about. good or bad, in terms of rng/hands, they all end up being about the same.
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05-29-2017 , 01:09 AM
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Originally Posted by G2thV
I actually appreciate that you guys want people to either get better or keep feeding the pond. I would like to believe that is the point here.
For me, basically, yes. I post with the hope that the occasional person listens to reason and gets something out of my post. And not that online poker isn't (or is) rigged, but that there is a threshold people should expect they'll need to meet if they want to convince anyone. That simply posting a few anecdotes, or being able to come up with motives for those evil off-shore unregulated poker sites to rig the games, isn't proof that they are.

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Originally Posted by G2thV
But it (rigging/virtual variance) can be done, probably is, & if it is, you guys would be 1st to condemn it!
Yes, absolutely. Well, I'm not sure about "probably is", but I'm with you on the rest.

I never try to convince anyone that a given site isn't (or is) rigged - how would I know? That's why I've never voted in the poll. I just think accusations should be evidence-based. And if some compelling evidence comes forward that a site is rigged, of course I'll be condemning it (the site).

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Originally Posted by G2thV
More drugs, GN!
GN!
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05-30-2017 , 11:41 PM
So we agree!

Those off shore, unregulated pokers sites are Evil!
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05-31-2017 , 06:16 AM
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Originally Posted by DedicatedToPoker
Look, man: You're from Romania and no offense but you're extremely out of the loop as far as "earth" goes. There are probably many, many things that you're naive about or totally unaware of due to your extremely obscure, isolated location that no good would come from an extended discussion between us.

US players don't give a **** about poker anymore. That's a fact. Tens of thousands in a country of 370+ million is pretty much the very definition of dead. More people play Bingo at this point.
FYI Bingo is the most played and most addictive gambling game in the world.
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05-31-2017 , 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by G2thV
See if you live in any state that MY sites offer Poker & Casino, Black Jack & Sports Book, well, ITS ****ING ILEGAL!
It's always kind of amusing to see an ostensibly native English speaker type out unreadable gibberish like this, while they claim to be able to detect a rig within 10 hands.

lol
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06-01-2017 , 09:53 AM
So how often do u think a losing player should have winning sessions just do to luck? 50% of the time? 40%?
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06-01-2017 , 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by jungmit
So how often do u think a losing player should have winning sessions just do to luck? 50% of the time? 40%?
Depends how much of a loser they are
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06-02-2017 , 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by jungmit
So how often do u think a losing player should have winning sessions just do to luck? 50% of the time? 40%?
Depends on true winrate, stdev and session length.
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06-02-2017 , 11:47 AM


888 Push or Fold Games are definetely rigged.

This is not normal anymore. Pretty strange that I always run massively under EV in sessions where recreational players, who are always huge donks in this format, run their stack up from $50 to like $2k. That's no coincidence.

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