The great "Poker is rigged" debate - Collected threads edition
03-31-2017
, 06:23 PM
04-01-2017
, 02:47 PM
04-01-2017
, 03:23 PM
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I am going to put it plain and simple. For the sites to increase their revenue significantly enough, they would have to rig a big part of their deal. Do this and people will find it out. End result, you lose your business. Rig a small part of your deal as you suggested, the sites revenue increase would not worth the risk. And again, it would be discovered.
Why and how, you would ask? Well, simple. How would the site be able to make a rigged system capable of selecting hands to rig and not change the statistics of the expectancy without being able to discover it through a simple check of the HH's. There is also the risks of programers snitching out. There is also the freakin' logic that why would they do it ?
You don't seem to actually have any decent argument for the supposed rig. And also, dude, you know poker is a zero sum game. If it is rigged, it cannot be rigged against one player ( well it could, but again, too easy to discover ), it has to be rigged against all of the players. Basically, this would again mean to alter the percentages. This again would also be discovered. Basically, up until now no one has been able to discover rigs and use them to their advantage. No one besides you, apparently.
The majority of the millions of OLP players seem pleased with the deal that they are being given. Why ? Because they have enough wits to think something through before launching into insane allegations. You are a grown man, you say. Do you actually think poker sites would be able to pull off basically a worldwide scam which, by your statements, rips players off money and no one, absolutely no one from the millions of OLP players wouldn't eventually get on to something and uncover their scam ?
This is the last time I will ever ask you. Please explain your rig. And also, please post your graph and your online screen name. I want to look at the results of the most brightest poker player out there. If you will only write a pathetic excuse filled with grammar errors ( which I think you will ) and not post your results/graph/screen name, please don't respond at all. Ban yourself. And get some paranoia meds as well.
Oh, and for the audits. For Pokerstars, I know that the "no-namers" Cigital audited them. They also had a review done by Gaming Laboratories International.
But, I guess they are all in the worldwide scam that no one has ever been able to demonstrate. Clever bastards. I have to become an illuminati, start eating some lizards and maybe they will let me in the scam. I also hear that they only admit people who are up to date with Game of Thrones. Sucks for you.
Why and how, you would ask? Well, simple. How would the site be able to make a rigged system capable of selecting hands to rig and not change the statistics of the expectancy without being able to discover it through a simple check of the HH's. There is also the risks of programers snitching out. There is also the freakin' logic that why would they do it ?
You don't seem to actually have any decent argument for the supposed rig. And also, dude, you know poker is a zero sum game. If it is rigged, it cannot be rigged against one player ( well it could, but again, too easy to discover ), it has to be rigged against all of the players. Basically, this would again mean to alter the percentages. This again would also be discovered. Basically, up until now no one has been able to discover rigs and use them to their advantage. No one besides you, apparently.
The majority of the millions of OLP players seem pleased with the deal that they are being given. Why ? Because they have enough wits to think something through before launching into insane allegations. You are a grown man, you say. Do you actually think poker sites would be able to pull off basically a worldwide scam which, by your statements, rips players off money and no one, absolutely no one from the millions of OLP players wouldn't eventually get on to something and uncover their scam ?
This is the last time I will ever ask you. Please explain your rig. And also, please post your graph and your online screen name. I want to look at the results of the most brightest poker player out there. If you will only write a pathetic excuse filled with grammar errors ( which I think you will ) and not post your results/graph/screen name, please don't respond at all. Ban yourself. And get some paranoia meds as well.
Oh, and for the audits. For Pokerstars, I know that the "no-namers" Cigital audited them. They also had a review done by Gaming Laboratories International.
But, I guess they are all in the worldwide scam that no one has ever been able to demonstrate. Clever bastards. I have to become an illuminati, start eating some lizards and maybe they will let me in the scam. I also hear that they only admit people who are up to date with Game of Thrones. Sucks for you.
I think there is a perception that employees know of a master algorithm that makes money for their employer. That just doesn't make sense. Sites will make money regardless in the form of rakes. What makes sense is individuals finding out ways to profit off sites internal programs for example if there was a software to fix hands to set up cheaters, and a way to augment or manipulate when spin and go jackpots went off, than one could simply combine the two and in 5 minutes walk away with 100k or 1M, you dont have to have 20000 hand histories to catch this, you hit a luckyjackpot and win a lucky flip. You could insert fake accounts from any country, in a jackpot gameonce out of every 100 or 200 that go off, once every 7 months and you're set. Poker is a very easy game to do this because you can hide anything in low volume through variance. Smart cheats in this day and age could hide theft this was. New lucky accounts low variance. Open a new account, play casually for a month on it than hit a unrandom jackpot. Thats my guess
04-01-2017
, 03:57 PM
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I think there is a perception that employees know of a master algorithm that makes money for their employer. That just doesn't make sense. Sites will make money regardless in the form of rakes. What makes sense is individuals finding out ways to profit off sites internal programs for example if there was a software to fix hands to set up cheaters, and a way to augment or manipulate when spin and go jackpots went off, than one could simply combine the two and in 5 minutes walk away with 100k or 1M, you dont have to have 20000 hand histories to catch this, you hit a luckyjackpot and win a lucky flip. You could insert fake accounts from any country, in a jackpot gameonce out of every 100 or 200 that go off, once every 7 months and you're set. is a very easy game to do this because you can hide anything in low volume through variance. Smart cheats in this day and age could hide theft this was. New lucky accounts low variance. Open a new account, play casually for a month on it than hit a unrandom jackpot. Thats my guess
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And for the rest off the post : What ?