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Originally Posted by tk1133
Did you research all this b/c you wanted to know what would happen if you got caught using illegal programs?
This is becoming annoying and I now have you on ignore, so don't bother anymore. This will be my last comment on this subject. As I've said before, I've never posted on nor even read any of the forums on the bot site you keep referring to, and I do not have access to them. I've never used or tried to create any bot software. I play online poker casually for entertainment, and not even that much. I'm mostly a live player. But I am interested in poker research and I have used the software and database available from pokerftp.com, and have posted about it here many times.
Your accusations apparently come from seeing my name registered there. That is because there is one forum there that is used for the hand database research and you have to download the software from links Indiana posts there (he runs the research site pokerftp.com and the bot site, but has only one common forum server). I've told you this before. Here is some of my correspondence with the site administrator (with apologies to Indiana):
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From: spadebidder
To: 'Indiana'
Subject: RE: new files ready to run
Date: Jul 16, 2009 10:26 PM
Hello,
Please respond to my earlier questions below. I understand that you are busy. But you provided the code base and sample database for people to develop with, and the promise that you would run programs against the full database. You set up a web site for people to do this. I've spent many hours working on several programs to do analysis, and I gave you the first one almost a month ago. I've stopped working on the project until I know what is going to happen, and this is after I've put a couple hundred hours into it already.
This can all be resolved if you could allow me to obtain the full database. Or, please find a way to turn around requests in a timely way. I do appreciate the effort you have put into this so far, but I don't want mine to be wasted.
I look forward to hearing from you.
Thanks
See this thread for background on the HH database:
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/15...h-beta-452536/
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From: Indiana
To: 'spadebidder'
Subject: RE: new files ready to run
Date: Jul 17, 2009 2:08 PM
Please create a user on our forums and I will let you in our Hand History research forum. You will get the full version of the software (so you'll be able to import and export hands yourself). I don't have the hands uploaded, but you'll have the software and some time to play around.
I am traveling a lot, including in the next few weeks. Sorry for that.
Indy
Note here that I have no access to the bot forums, only to the one mentioned for downloading code.
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From: spadebidder
To: Indiana
Subject: RE: new files ready to run
Date: Aug 1, 2009 6:57 PM
PS - it has come to my attention that people can somehow see that I am now listed as a member on your forum, and they don't view that favorably. I use the same screen name everywhere, so can it be hidden on the site to avoid misunderstandings?
Thank you.
-----Original Message-----
>From: spadebidder
>Sent: Aug 1, 2009 8:00 AM
>To: indiana
>Subject: RE: new files ready to run
>
>Hi,
>
>Since you are still busy, please let me know when you are available and I will send you my latest code.
>
>Thanks
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From: Indiana
To: 'spadebidder'
Subject: RE: new files ready to run
Date: Aug 4, 2009 11:18 AM
You shouldn’t be worried about that. Many researchers are members of my forums, and the forum is both for actual pokerai research, hhex, and pokerbotting for real money is in special subforums.
One of the most credible researchers (MBJ - Michael Bradley johanson) e.g. has posted regulary. Others e.g. (deleted) who is 2+2 mod is also member of my forums and has posted on the past on particular topic,s and many others.
Note that the "special subforums" mentioned are not even accessible to me.
So please stop your accusations. If it comes to my attention again (even with you on ignore) I will have to report your abuse to the moderators here. I have given a complete response to your accusations, and that should be the end of it. I do not take it lightly when my integrity and reputation is questioned.
Last edited by Mike Haven; 08-16-2009 at 12:47 PM.