tk1133?

Is that you?

What percentage of the time would you like to win here to prove that it isnt rigged or bogus? How does your post show that you aren't winning this percentage of the time? Why are you people so stupid?

I wouldnt dream of playing on any of the small sites even though i have no reason to believe they are rigged and every reason to believe they are not. So I ask again, why are you people so stupid? You cant beat the players on the big sites so are searching for fish on the small ones in a desperate attempt to start winning. Spend more time playing better and less time on your conspiracy theories.

The commission has a staff of inspectors and administrative people. Try reading what they actually do, or just ask them: +44 (0) 1624 694331 or email gaming@gov.im

Or if you want to read up on the one that regulates Full Tilt (Filco Ltd), see the Alderney Gaming Commission, http://www.gamblingcontrol.org/index.php
which is another UK entity using UK regulation standards, and who also have a staff of inspectors.

Both are well-respected jurisdictions.

there is money involved = rigging and cheating is normal

Bank, stock markets....are regulated also and we all know many cheat and its rigged. I play both and if i loose i leave...definetely stock markets are more fair than onlinepoker.

I too am heavily involved in both and I think that statement is still debatable.

There are a ton of different ways you could go at that debate, whether you're talking about investors manipulating the market vs players manipulating the games through collusion. Or effectiveness of oversight of the market vs oversight of online poker. Companies cooking the books and inflating their value per share vs sites stealing from customers.

In each area foul play is possible but not probable when looking at the majority of sites, players, etc., but things can and do happen.

Doesn't say much coming from you...thanks for your input tho. However, how about illegal poker bots playing more tourny's then cash games....? How about there's too many poker bots out there robbing people's bankrolls and they mistake it for the site "rigging." See the difference now is I have proof....

So your a regular poker player like us correct? Atleast that's the theme your trying to present us....How do you know all thi0 again?

Did you research all this b/c you wanted to know what would happen if you got caught using illegal programs?

IndianaV8 personally thanked Poker Stars for their support on winning "bot" of the year....What's that mean?

+1!

Yes, but this problem is more widespread than you think. You may have missed my post on the last page where I posted a picture of this guy I was playing at the Casino. Very suspicious:




Joking aside, at least you made a bit of link as to why a discussion about botting might be relevant in a thread about rigging, but I really think this is a very real but very separate problem that is the subject of several other threads. It's just too big a highjack for this thread and is deserving of substantial discussion on its own. Mods?

It means he's got a sense of humour.

You have proof of what?

Your sanity?

You mean they've actually given you a certificate of discharge from a mental institution.

I'll take you up on this....

So are you calling him a shill or a botter? Make up your damn mind.

What? I didn't read about it being a "Hierarchy" anywhere... All i have read is what is posted on the PS website, and what was linked to by a PS rep. I'll keep asking questions when i'm confused. FYP

You have proof? Of what?

That stuff is all on the website that I posted the link to earlier (or linked from there)

www.pokerstars.com/iom/

RigtardA asks about the regulatory authority. I posted the url with more details of the regulatory authority. Spadebidder then went to the URL, followed dthe links, and copied their phone number and direct contact details.

Of course, I assume none of the people in this thread who believe that online poker is rigged have made any effort to contact the regulators or ask any questions, despite the fact that I even wrote draft emails earlier in this thread that you could copy and use.

Of course, K13 didn't admit he was wrong when confronted with very strong evidence that he was wrong on the frequency of Aces coming on the flop. R4R didn't admit he was wrong when he complained about the regulatory authorities being unreliable.

The problem with this thread is that various ranting rigtards come here, make false accusations, and have those accusations comprehensively debunked or disproved. Then, rather than admit that they were wrong, they just manufacture another ficitious and baseless allegation. It's easier to make up lies than it is to disprove them, because the people who are disproving them need to actually address the details and facts and make an effort to do so, while the lying liars just write dribble over their keyboard.

It means that Indiana is being Indiana. His goals are pretty obvious.

Well, firstly, I imagine it wouldn't take more than a few people to regulate an online poker site. I don't know how many people are employed.

In the AP/UB scandal, there were essentially three key random volunteers (and many other interested people) from various parts of the world who largely proved the cheating in their spare time.

It should not be a difficult or time consuming process to monitor this sort of stuff on an ongoing or regular basis - you don't actually need to have someone sitting there observing literally every hand.

The other part of their task would, I imagine, be to respond to contacts from players - ie, they write in with a complaint, I imagine the regulator would ask for a response from the relevant poker site, and then compare the two stories and take action as needed. That is also not overly labor intensive.

I wasn't calling you out. That was directed towards somebody else.... I appreciate your input on this subject....

That there are thousands of players using bots online daily....

Oh, good grief!

How can anyone be so utterly clueless?

It's impossible to even know where to begin faced with this level of ignorance.

Yes, but just saying you have proof is meaningless.

Especially considering all the other drivel you continually post.

Let's see this proof.

Or are you just foaming at the mouth again?

Ummm, although I usually back up these types of demands to show proof, this is almost ceratainly true. Botting is a growing problem and they are out there. From what I undestand, with a few exception (hu, limit) they aren't that good yet and it is naive to assume that they are not.

But guys, this is huge topic on its own and threads pop up on it all the time! I'll say it one last time and I guess if no objects then - meh - but botting has nothing to do rigging the RNG! And very likely has nothing to do with why people think the RNG is rigged, because so far, there are very few - if any -winning bots out there!