In case you don't know, Josem is a long time employee of Pokerstars and long time contributor to this thread. Although employees like him ignore threads like the " automated software thread" on Pokerstars which allows people to use bot like software, you see within hours they are in the riggie thread contributing to your "wild" claim.
Ever wonder why?


Here is a customer in that thread stating





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Re: Pokerstars allowing automated decision software?
/derail

Pokerstars we are still waiting for an answer


Does anyone have a thought about that?


Remember, just post the results of your experiences and let others see. Thats all you can do. It will be met with skepticism, denial, deflection at all points because this is their livelihood and with that has come a sense of entitlement to act and behave in a manner they have become accustomed to the last 10 years. Black friday put an end to some of this, now it is time to flush out some more shady behavior and give back an ounce of integrity to the customer, one account at a time.

your claim is already instantly discredited by being thrown in the dungeon of threads here. So goodluck.

i notice that when i suck out as a dog in a big hand i had no earthly business being in in the first place, for the rest of the tourney i run better than bruce jenner when he was still a man.

You're not a cross-dressing Russian by any chance?

What if I got dealt AA (of any suit) at a rate 37 times greater than expectations? And with those hands, lost with AA to KK at a rate 10 times greater than expectations? How big would my sample have to be to prove a card room was cheating me?

It would be a huge coincidence if 2 guys named Josem both had accounts on 2+2 and both had the same opinion.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/members/111384/

If you are really Pokerstars Michael Josem, head of Pokerstars PR, why not post with your official memorabilia and answer the question about transparency I ask at the top of this page?

Thanks

DANGER: NON-BIASED FACTS:-

In computing, source code is any collection of computer instructions (possibly with comments) written using some human-readable computer language, usually as text.

The source code of a program is specially designed to facilitate the work of computer programmers, who specify the actions to be performed by a computer mostly by writing source code.

Pause non-biased facts:-

You confuse source code, machine code and their properties.

DANGER: NON-BIASED FACTS:-

The source code is often transformed by a compiler program into low-level machine code understood by the computer. The machine code might then be stored for execution at a later time. Alternatively, an interpreter can be used to analyze and perform the outcomes of the source code program directly on the fly

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Edit/MH: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Source_code

In layman terms, the shuffle can be as random as it wants, but that doesn't mean players are getting a fair deal. After the shuffle is randomized, another program could possibly distribute the random deal to players is a biased way.

As expected, after posting about Michael Josem of Pokerstars, I am met with a drastic and sudden spike of "variance" on pokerstars random and fair tables. Randomly and fairly of course because they are unable to effect the outcomes, even though there are strong signs signifying otherwise

There is a reason why these sites were shut down by the DOJ

Sigh, there we go, religious moron pulls some wikipedia article without knowing anything about software.

You are concerned about the randomness of the deal? Let's just settle with:

"God works in mysterious ways, maybe he just hates you and wants you to lose as much as possible" But in general, if you lose your full house to quads, think "god did it".

Have fun, as I told you, you won't last longer than a month and maybe in 5-10 years when there is still no proof for rigged deals, you think back of your performance in here and how much of an idiot you made out of yourself.

good one. i can see how you might have arrived at that conclusion...lol.

you said it, bro...

best wishes, friedrich nietzsche

Possibly? Its exactly what happens. Since online poker began, now, and always will be dealt like that.
Why do thousands of players complain about how non-random the deal is? Why is there so many "shills" in here telling you you dont see the painfully obvious thats right in front of your face?

there is also a reason why njdge has delayed issuing pokerstars a license for so long. even after the amaya takeover and supposedly cleaning house of those involved with black friday shady stuff. one thing which might explain some of the delay is waiting for pokerstars to finish reimbursing (or come very close to) those it took responsibilty as part of the post black friday dealings with the USA.

if you ask me the key to unravelling the hand histories is very tricky. you have to look for high %'s of clear tilts both to win % lose. probably easiest to do looking at the flow of the mtt's vs cash games. many of us have clearly seen the tilts and some very ridiculous ones in which players simply could call anything at times an not lose.
its the timing of these tilts and the frequency which make many players very suspicious. some players seem to have a monolopy (or close to it) of winning tilts day in and day out. either way win or lose tilts there r bound to be some imbalance where some accounts have a skewed high % of these occurences naturally. however if those doing whatever audits were to tie into the accounting factors along with the frequency of the tilts - a new pattern might start to emerge clearly. other accounting factors they might want to look at play volume, amount contributed to rake, stakes level, win/loss %, deposit/withdrawals and analyzing the timing. then they might be able to find the factors (or rule out) which may be by whatever means being used to manipulate accounts to win or lose more.
i think the real focus should be looking into the stats and hand histories of the legal US market since it became legal again. in the limited player pools finding evidence of certain accounts clearly being tilted (to win easily) and repeatedly would be far easier if one looks at the mtt's and the story of how those players on winning hot streaks were dealt the cards throughout those tournies. some accounts flop set after set ridiculously in these limited markets. interestingly these seem to be mostly either those who put the most time playing, and contribute more to rake. ie- those most likely to be playing for a living or trying to. (few exceptions aside of course) some of these players arent very good at all they just have super luck day in day out for long stretches. other players have to deal with the ups and downs more often and work much harder to cash.

so here comes the surge of bs from the shills and all the insults and other stupidity as usual. i will say one thing for the shills- sometimes the tilts r just random and nothing more than being the lucky account selected to receive the tilt for the tourney. but some people seem to have all the good luck of all of the Irish combined (too many repeatedly to be just a luck factor variance, and in babysat ways with little skill required)

those who have seen it and experienced it understand. problem for the sites is its a fine line and balance to be had and the way their software rigged or not randomly dishes out the good/bad luck crosses the line for too many players

Well, congratulations on exposing the secret ! Except that the fact that Josem works for stars is not a secret in the first place; it is widely known, publicly acknowledged, and often mentioned.

Since you say you had an expectation of retribution for your exposé, a sane person might ask why you are a customer of such an organisation when no-one forces you to be ?

Because 90% of them are losing in the long run and very few appreciate that, seeking other excuses in exchange to explain it?

I'm in the other 10%, actually the other 2% so whats people like me excuse. I will answer for you since I know what you will spew. Mental health? And 90% of them is being kind, it's 99%. Actually less than 3% of online players profit. If not less. It's the big propaganda/glorification to previous make it look like it was glorious to become a pro, commercials with Negreanu claiming poker was about strategy. Those days are LONG gone. Strategy has nothing to do with making a profit on Pokerstars. It has to do with heaters and running unreal and outside forces controlling your "luck" at certain stages of tournaments. Me, I come in 2p2 and speak my mind so I am the unlucky bugger who loses on the bubble of a big tournament with ak to aq or run in to AA in the BB with pocket 10's. Randomly and fairly I hear.

The employees will run back in there hole after being called out from ignoring other issues. Typical post black friday.

Looks like you are already in your very own hole and nobody else can go there. I bet you didn't know that I would be "spewing" this. Or do you have a premium tin-foiled hat?

within minutes of my last post, I lose another tournament to a hand I see twice live this year, yet this happens over and over on pokerstars random rng, dealings. A site banned in America because they got caught deceiving banks, and also where managers seem to tamper with customers account settings, than lie about it.

Dealt to honest [Kh Ac]
indicted: raises 50 to 100
honest: raises 150 to 250
fraud: calls 200
indicted: calls 150
*** FLOP *** [Qc 5c 2c]
honest: checks
fraud: checks
indicted: checks
*** TURN *** [Qc 5c 2c] [Kc]
honest: bets 502
fraud: calls 502
indicted: folds
*** RIVER *** [Qc 5c 2c Kc] [Kd]
honest: bets 2490 and is all-in
fraud: calls 2490
*** SHOW DOWN ***
honest: shows [Kh Ac] (a flush, Ace high)
fraud: shows [Qh Ks] (a full house, Kings full of Queens)
fraud collected 6734 from pot
honest finished the tournament in 25th place

No you arent. You suck. Who do you think you are fooling? It seems that you lack even a basic understanding of the game or simple math and your compete level is for ****. You want to be a winner instead of a loser? Ill help you. Quit crying like a little girl every time you lose. For one, no one cares. Secondly, you will never win consistently in poker or any competition with that weak minded mentality. I swear every time I read one of you little girls crying and blaming everything but yourself when you lose I want Vito Corleone to slap you in the face. Man up for **** sake. Bravado macho my ass.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nqcgUDoV_M

Looks like we are having an effect, the trolls are still hiding in the cage, but the old old watchful eyes in the riggie thread are back. I guess having all the lesser shills fire back is the tactic of the night.Ya see, I don;t need to understand match, which I do, I have a program to understand it for me. All I have to do is link it with timelines. Go back in your cave employee.

Dealt to honest [8s 8c]
indicted: folds
honest: raises 30 to 60
fraud: raises 490 to 550 and is all-in
honest: calls 420 and is all-in
Uncalled bet (70) returned to fraud
*** FLOP *** [6s 5s As]
*** TURN *** [6s 5s As] [2h]
*** RIVER *** [6s 5s As 2h] [5h]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
honest: shows [8s 8c] (two pair, Eights and Fives)
fraud: shows [5d Kc] (three of a kind, Fives)


Employees are always watching this thread, ready to sneak back in to the office and cheat. This will happen non stop now and all new players or those who value their money and think the game is fair should take notice. Poeople at this site can dictate the outcomes of games, just like they dictated the outcome of bank statements to processors and fooled banks. It's a business built around foolery. These shills are meant to fool you but HH are the proof. Over and over money stolen and hid behind "variance" I win the small pots and small games and cheated in the bigger ones.So overall it looks fair, bad beat 20/60 hands but those 20 wins were for insigificant pots while the bad beats were for massive pots worth thousands of dollars. People, don;t be fooled by the people in this thread like 5thstreet hog, who, has been posting the same angry rebuttals for the last 6-8 years along with suited39.

Glad to see you got your vote in again, futballer/greenwallet/bravadomacho. Always amusing to see you call people out for their continued involvement in this thread while you keep coming back with account after account. Pot, kettle, black, etc.

dealt to honest [Kc 9c]
honest: raises 40 to 80
fraud calls 40
*** FLOP *** [7c 6s 8h]
fraud: checks
honest: bets 60
fraud: raises 556 to 616 and is all-in
honest: calls 556
*** TURN *** [7c 6s 8h] [5s]
*** RIVER *** [7c 6s 8h 5s] [Td]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
fraud: shows [Jh 9d] (a straight, Seven to Jack)
honest: shows [Kc 9c] (a straight, Six to Ten)
fraud collected 1392 from pot


first three games after criticizing a pokerstars employee.

I think people get the hint what is occurring and has been. Random bad luck and amazing timing

Though you probably assume my last post was just meant to antagonize you the advice in it was serious. Quit being a baby dude really. I get bad beats all day long. Every poker player does. Thats the way the game works. You're like an American football player that cries about being tackled after every game. Find a new game in you dont want to ever lose hands where you are favorite.